Gods Mercy,Why the Jews are Still Gods Chosen People

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"Some teach some will be saved,some think all will be saved.Still looking into that question myself."


Here is the answer [Zechariah 13:8-9]

Not all of Israel will be saved during the 70th week decreed [the time of Jacob's trouble]

Only believing Israel will be saved at the time .... the balance will be killed and lost forever
 
kaylagrl said:


Did you not note the "" around the word Christians? In Heb.I believe it talks about the Jews being blinded for a time until the "fullness of the Gentiles" or the Gentiles that will accept Christ,when that time is done the blinders will be taken off and the Jews will recognize Christ as this Messiah. Some teach some will be saved,some think all will be saved.Still looking into that question myself.
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Yes I did,but you continued with this

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Thats what Jesus said,I'm hardly on His level. Jews have been persecuted and kicked out of over 100 countries.Over a million were murdered in the Holocaust alone.A lot of the abuse of Jews came from so called "Christians" it was the Catholics that first made them wear the star of David and put them ghettos.Look up blood liables. How do we expect a Jew would come to Christ under those circumstances? Fine to blame the Jews and say they are antichrist but have we as Christians acted CHRISTLIKE toward the Jews? No!!! There are organizations that are Christian and are reaching out to the Jews. Lots of people in this world have rejected Christ so I guess there are a lot of antichrists out there walking around. I believe the Jews are Gods chosen but even if you dont your attitude should be one of prayer and love toward the Jews though whom we were grafted in.
 
kaylagrl said:


Did you not note the "" around the word Christians? In Heb.I believe it talks about the Jews being blinded for a time until the "fullness of the Gentiles" or the Gentiles that will accept Christ,when that time is done the blinders will be taken off and the Jews will recognize Christ as this Messiah. Some teach some will be saved,some think all will be saved.Still looking into that question myself.
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The wicked of Israel will perish, a remnant saved when He appears to Israel,

Amos 9:8-11 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD. For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us. In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old.

Jeremiah 30:9-11 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them. Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid. For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.
 
kaylagrl said:
It sure seems that way.I dont mind discussing but when certain people start calling the Jews anti-christ whether you think they are chosen or not,is where I draw the line.Cannot stand for that. Bless them and be bless Curse them and be cursed.
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keepitsimple said:
Your line is not God's line. If they repent, be they Jew or Gentile, God will forgive them and call them His own. Jesus Christ is God's line ... and shall be forevermore. Contrary to what you may or may not believe, the gospel truly is that simple.


1 John 2:22

Who is the liar ? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the anti-Christ ... denying the Father and the Son.
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eternally-gratefull said:
She believes that is the gospel, as do ALL of us,

Would you like to stick to the subject. we are not discussing that.

If people would read they would understand that, and not make false accusations, or ignorant remarks.
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For the purpose of my reply to kaylagirl's post, I was on subject. Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ is an anti-Christ ... including the overwhelming majority of those living in today's Israel. Same goes for any unbelieving gentile, regardless of their geography. How is that a false accusation or an ignorant remark ? Are you always this hostile with those whom you don't agree with ?
 
Zechariah 12:9-11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
 
"The wicked of Israel will perish, a remnant saved when He appears to Israel"


No doubt

The Lord's requirement for His salvation has not changed, and will not for "Jew" or Gentile

...... and He will still offer the same during the coming tribulation, but without repentance and belief, no deal

[Matthew 24:14; Revelation 3:15-19; 6:2; 6:9-11; 7:1-8; 14:1-7; 14:13]
 
SarahM777 said:
Yes I did,but you continued with this

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Originally Posted by kaylagrl
Thats what Jesus said,I'm hardly on His level. Jews have been persecuted and kicked out of over 100 countries.Over a million were murdered in the Holocaust alone.A lot of the abuse of Jews came from so called "Christians" it was the Catholics that first made them wear the star of David and put them ghettos.Look up blood liables. How do we expect a Jew would come to Christ under those circumstances? Fine to blame the Jews and say they are antichrist but have we as Christians acted CHRISTLIKE toward the Jews? No!!! There are organizations that are Christian and are reaching out to the Jews. Lots of people in this world have rejected Christ so I guess there are a lot of antichrists out there walking around. I believe the Jews are Gods chosen but even if you dont your attitude should be one of prayer and love toward the Jews though whom we were grafted in.
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​Yes I was referring to some of the comments here by Christians,not you,who are saying how the Jewish people are anti Christ and curse Christians etc.There was even a video posted though I couldnt tell you where.I was saying from their view point Christians,so called,have persecuted them.So Im saying our attitude should be loving and Christlike toward the Jews who are blinded to the truth of Christ.
 
In JOHN 8:39 the Jews defend themselves against Jesus' criticisms by saying, "'Abraham is our father.' Jesus said to them, 'If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did.'" Jesus shows us two things in this response. First, he shows us that they are not Abraham's children, even though they are Jews, and so he confirms our first point, that being a child of Abraham is not the same as Jewishness. And the second thing he shows us is that being a child of Abraham means being like Abraham: doing what he does: "If you were Abraham's children you would do what Abraham did." In GALATIANS 3:6 what Abraham did was believe God. "Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness." (GENESIS 15:6). Then Paul infers from this in verse 7: "So you see, it is those of faith who are sons of Abraham." Abraham was a man of faith, so if you do what he did, if you have faith, you will be his child.

I'm going to believe the Lord. :D
 
VioletReigns said:
In JOHN 8:39 the Jews defend themselves against Jesus' criticisms by saying, "'Abraham is our father.' Jesus said to them, 'If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did.'" Jesus shows us two things in this response. First, he shows us that they are not Abraham's children, even though they are Jews, and so he confirms our first point, that being a child of Abraham is not the same as Jewishness. And the second thing he shows us is that being a child of Abraham means being like Abraham: doing what he does: "If you were Abraham's children you would do what Abraham did." In GALATIANS 3:6 what Abraham did was believe God. "Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness." (GENESIS 15:6). Then Paul infers from this in verse 7: "So you see, it is those of faith who are sons of Abraham." Abraham was a man of faith, so if you do what he did, if you have faith, you will be his child.
I'm going to believe the Lord. :D
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Wisdom dear sister :)
 
kaylagrl said:
I started this post and you are more than welcome to comment.Dont let bullies silence you whichever way you believe.I was hoping this would be a discussion and I think its gotten off the rails a bit.:(
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Dear sister Kaylagrl, I was only joking. I'm not a-scared! ;) heehee!! I was just being a goof and trying to bring a little humor to this thread.
 
JimmieD said:
In any case, one could argue that Israel fulfilled the promise of being a great nation while they were in Egypt.
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That cannot be a true statement, my Brother Jimmie. In the book of Hebrews chapter 11 it tells us that Abraham, Issac and Jacob, Abel, Enoch, Moses, etc. did not receive the promise. Paul tells us what the promise is: SALVATION THROUGH JESUS CHIRST.

Jesus made a statement about this salvation, this promise which is synonymous with entering into the kingdom of God when He gave his parable of the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31-34).
 
Question: When God's Kingdom is established on the earth, will Abraham, Isaac & Jacob rule Canaan then? I am no theologian and often get muddle-headed with Revelation. :p :confused:
 
JamesFlash said:
if you don't agree that antichrists are God's chosen, you're a holocaust denier.
brainwashing or lack of intellect - who can say.
either way, useless and against ALL scripture teaches.
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If I read this correctly "antichrists are God's chosen"????? Could you show me a scripture that says so? Dealing with specifically that issue "antichrist's are God's chosen" Just one scripture.
 
SarahM777 said:
YOU ARE ADDING THINGS TO THE TEXT that the text does NOT SAY.
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No I am not.

If you curse someones family, you curse them. Your interpretation is faulty,

We also have biblical proof. Any nation who did anything to Israel (even if God allowed it) was destroyed, Punished for cursing Israel.

You just do not want to see what is sitting right in front of you.
 
kaylagrl said:
​Yes I was referring to some of the comments here by Christians,not you,who are saying how the Jewish people are anti Christ and curse Christians etc.There was even a video posted though I couldnt tell you where.I was saying from their view point Christians,so called,have persecuted them.So Im saying our attitude should be loving and Christlike toward the Jews who are blinded to the truth of Christ.
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I think what makes us so angry is people curse jews, but never say a word about the other people who are just as bad (as the unbelieving jews) It just goes to prove the hatred people have against this nation, (at least in my mind)

we need to love everyone, and give them the gospel. Hating someone will never lead them to Christ.

God said we are to love our enemies, Far to many times I do not see that in here,
 
VioletReigns said:

I'm going to believe the Lord. :D
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do you believe him when he says in lev 26, that if the people if Isreal disobey, he will have a gentile nation destroy their cities, take them prisoner, and make them slaves.

but even after this, if they repent of their sins, and their fathers sins, and admit they have profained God and played the harlot. And God has punished them because of their sins, that he will remember his promise to Abraham, and to Isaac and to Jacob, he will remember the land, and he will restore to them what is rightfully theirs?

WHich of course has nothign to do with salvation, or who is going to heaven. Only whether lives in the land given as a gift from God to their ancestors.
 
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