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Report released last night, or early this morning stated that over 50% of the eyewitnesses gave their testimony that Brown was running away when Officer Wilson fired at him, and that when Brown stopped and turned around he had his hands up when Wilson took the final two shots. This goes against what Wilson said in his testimony that he did not fire on Brown tell after he turned around and tried to rush him.
16 out of 29 witnesses say Brown was running away when shot at. 13 do not support that idea. The medical evidence says that Brown received no bullets in the back. Trying to decide this matter by taking percentages of witnesses is invalid.
The evidence as tabulated on PBS supports the idea that at some point Brown had hands up during the firing, and at some point he had his hands at his waist. I don't know how long the hands were up nor how high they were up nor at what point exactly in the conflict the hands were up.
Divine commentary:
13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for
he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
The evidence as tabulated on PBS supports the idea that at some point Brown had hands up during the firing, and at some point he had his hands at his waist. I don't know how long the hands were up nor how high they were up nor at what point exactly in the conflict the hands were up.
Divine commentary:
13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for
he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
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That is funny because the coroner, who was hired by the Brown family, report said that the one that went through his arm was from behind. Then you have most of the eyewitnesses saying he was shot at while running away, then you have saying the opposite.
The other thing like I said is before this went before the grand jury they had all over the news and talk shows at least two video evidence of the shooting. Now the prosecutor says there is no video evidence. Where did they go ???
The other thing like I said is before this went before the grand jury they had all over the news and talk shows at least two video evidence of the shooting. Now the prosecutor says there is no video evidence. Where did they go ???
So a big black teenager robs a store and is then stopped by a white policeman who is then attacked by the teenager, ends up fatally shooting him, parents and family then go on tv to say how thier poor darling is a sweet innocent boy who would not hurt a fly and they can not understand how he came to be shot other than it being racist attack by a white cop on an easy black target. The black community lap this up and when the inquest finds white cop innocent of wrong doing they riot.
this incident just shows how divided race and class is and in persuit of this war law and order is blatently disregarded, if this was middle east then the black man would have had monnuments built for being a martyr to the cause.
this incident just shows how divided race and class is and in persuit of this war law and order is blatently disregarded, if this was middle east then the black man would have had monnuments built for being a martyr to the cause.
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All I can say is that Mike Browns actions were wrong.
The way he acted physically, and verbally was wrong and should never have taken place.
Does this mean he deserved to be killed ? NO
If somebody believes it does, then you who believe this might as well go back to stoning adulterers, and put to death those that work on the Sabbath, and so on......
The way he acted physically, and verbally was wrong and should never have taken place.
Does this mean he deserved to be killed ? NO
If somebody believes it does, then you who believe this might as well go back to stoning adulterers, and put to death those that work on the Sabbath, and so on......
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Yes, but the thing is that I am not trained in fire arms as well as an officer is, but even I could shoot the legs of somebody only 18 to 20 feet away from me. They are trained however to shoot center mass, which could in most cases be a death shot. Then if you look at Wilson testimony, he said he was not even aiming. He just pointed the gun and pulled the trigger, it wasn't tell then he said he noticed it was the top of Browns head.
All his training was thrown out the window, and people can say what they want but he did have time to settle down a little after Brown started to run away. Which even he didn't deny happen.
Ive been researching into this and I just saw the guy who did the autopsy was actually a fraud CNN just reported it im serious you can even look this up. Also the prosecuter apparently didnt act like one and acted more of a defendent for wilson. Everything from what im seeing here is really one sided I dont doubt mike brown was the trouble maker but the fact that they are taking sides and even being so biased with the cop could really offend people.
Also wanted to mention I live here in st louis this happened in MY city. This has really turned into a race issue white people are automatically taking sides with the cop because hes white while a lot of blacks are taking sides with mike brown because hes black. Even some of my co workers keep calling mike brown the n word, one even said they were going to get a gun to kill n words. Im not making this up and I hope as christians the people in here arent taking sides just for racial reasons.
Also wanted to mention I live here in st louis this happened in MY city. This has really turned into a race issue white people are automatically taking sides with the cop because hes white while a lot of blacks are taking sides with mike brown because hes black. Even some of my co workers keep calling mike brown the n word, one even said they were going to get a gun to kill n words. Im not making this up and I hope as christians the people in here arent taking sides just for racial reasons.
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I saw some youtube video were london cops shot an attacker in the legs to disable him that had a knife in public they seemed to have no problem doing this. I wont post the link because its violent but you can easily find it. So shooting the legs can be done I guess London's police force is trained differently.
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There were two autopsies performed on Michael Brown, one by the County Coroner's office and one that was paid for by the Brown family. It is the credentials of the private autopsy team that is being called into question, not that of the Coroner's office.
Who is 'professor' from Michael Brown autopsy? - CNN.com
Who is 'professor' from Michael Brown autopsy? - CNN.com
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Those UK policemen who are armed certainly are trained to 'shoot to stop' by aiming center mass at the trunk of the body as modern police are around the world.
However, the current leadership of the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) in the UK now favour the introduction of plastic bullets in England as an alternative to traditional ammunition in some instances and the UK Home Office has recently approved this (e.g. the use of plastic bullets) though they have not yet been materially deployed in England (note S019 has them as an option). They were used extensively in Ireland along with rubber bullets.
Using plastic bullets on an island with strict border control and strict gun control as exists in England and Ireland can make them feasible but plastic bullets still can, did, and do cause fatalities.
Personally, I would never issue plastic bullets to police forces on large land masses as their only option because the criminal population on large land masses have access to weapons, traditional ammunition, and the machinery to make both if necessary.
Brown wasn't armed on that day but plenty of criminals were, are, and always will be on large land masses.
However, the current leadership of the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) in the UK now favour the introduction of plastic bullets in England as an alternative to traditional ammunition in some instances and the UK Home Office has recently approved this (e.g. the use of plastic bullets) though they have not yet been materially deployed in England (note S019 has them as an option). They were used extensively in Ireland along with rubber bullets.
Using plastic bullets on an island with strict border control and strict gun control as exists in England and Ireland can make them feasible but plastic bullets still can, did, and do cause fatalities.
Personally, I would never issue plastic bullets to police forces on large land masses as their only option because the criminal population on large land masses have access to weapons, traditional ammunition, and the machinery to make both if necessary.
Brown wasn't armed on that day but plenty of criminals were, are, and always will be on large land masses.
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I concur. This is the cop's problem.
Imagine being the cop on a street, the crowd is looting and rioting, a lot of screaming, violence and ongoing gunfire. It is a chaos. It is like a killing field. Suddenly, somebody is failing to do what he been told, maybe he is approaching you, maybe he is making moves you dont have any time to analyze, maybe he is just not doing what he is supposed to, and you, you are the law enforcer, the one to protect and to serve, you've got no more than a second or two to decide...maybe less...in your hand there is a gun...and you know that using that gun probably will save your life...you might would stay safe not using it...but you cant know for sure...now, you gonna pull that trigger or not? Honest answer's only.
Imagine being the cop on a street, the crowd is looting and rioting, a lot of screaming, violence and ongoing gunfire. It is a chaos. It is like a killing field. Suddenly, somebody is failing to do what he been told, maybe he is approaching you, maybe he is making moves you dont have any time to analyze, maybe he is just not doing what he is supposed to, and you, you are the law enforcer, the one to protect and to serve, you've got no more than a second or two to decide...maybe less...in your hand there is a gun...and you know that using that gun probably will save your life...you might would stay safe not using it...but you cant know for sure...now, you gonna pull that trigger or not? Honest answer's only.
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Despite “significant improvements in the scope and depth of deadly force training," police training is inadequate in many smaller police forces.
Dr. Gregory Morrison, head of the Department of criminal justice and criminality at Ball University in Indiana, just finished leading a study on police training nationwide.
Among the findings in this unique study:
• Only a small minority of departments includes trainers in OIS investigations or provides them feedback about deadly street confrontations that might be useful in evaluating and enhancing the effectiveness of their teaching curricula and methods
• In terms of time allocation, “many departments still heavily emphasize requalifying over vital handgun/deadly force training” that introduces new skills and improves existing ones
• Despite their “vital role,” nearly 40 percent of agencies do not require firearms instructors to take refresher training once they have been certified;
• Larger departments, which statistically have greater exposure to armed encounters, tend to require fewer firearms training and/or requalifying sessions per year
• Officers on some agencies are able to pass requalification tests even though many of their shots miss the target entirely, and those who fail to qualify may be allowed to re-shoot until they squeak by, “sometimes without diagnostic and corrective intervention”
• On the whole, “the overarching characteristic” of in-service firearms training is the “wide latitude exercised by departments” — essentially a jumble of inconsistent standards and instructional modalities that too often works to the detriment of officers, agencies, and the communities they serve
“A paradigm shift” in firearms training is “long overdue,” states Morrison, who specializes in studying deadly force programs and instruction.
“I agree with the thrust of Dr. Morrison’s findings and conclusions,” says Dr. Bill Lewinski, executive director of the Force Science Institute, which was not involved in the survey. “It’s tragic that the vast majority of firearms training today is not preparing officers for the brutal dynamics of real-world encounters and the sophisticated decision-making we hold them accountable for.”
Since the late 1980s and early 1990s, Morrison notes, there have been “significant improvements in the scope and depth of deadly force training.” His survey indicates that “several general characteristics associated with officer-involved shootings have become relatively common elements to handgun training: dim light, officer movement while firing, multiple targets, and moving targets.”
Also “most departments have introduced some form of scenario training,” in part in response to three landmark Supreme Court decisions (Tennessee v. Garner, Graham v. Connor, and Canton v. Harris). The formats employed include role-playing exercises with marking cartridges, live-fire range training, and computer-based, projected-image technology.
The devil, however, is in the details of just what these “relatively new dimensions to police handgun training” actually consist of.
Read further with Dr. Morrison's recommendations: New survey exposes 'disturbing' shortcomings in firearms training
Apart from creating moral godly families, living moral godly lives, and raising moral godly children one area that can yield desirable results is to take up the task of analyzing, designing, implementing, and assessing innovative training programs which “will improve police practices of benefit to both officers and public safety.”
Dr. Gregory Morrison, head of the Department of criminal justice and criminality at Ball University in Indiana, just finished leading a study on police training nationwide.
Among the findings in this unique study:
• Only a small minority of departments includes trainers in OIS investigations or provides them feedback about deadly street confrontations that might be useful in evaluating and enhancing the effectiveness of their teaching curricula and methods
• In terms of time allocation, “many departments still heavily emphasize requalifying over vital handgun/deadly force training” that introduces new skills and improves existing ones
• Despite their “vital role,” nearly 40 percent of agencies do not require firearms instructors to take refresher training once they have been certified;
• Larger departments, which statistically have greater exposure to armed encounters, tend to require fewer firearms training and/or requalifying sessions per year
• Officers on some agencies are able to pass requalification tests even though many of their shots miss the target entirely, and those who fail to qualify may be allowed to re-shoot until they squeak by, “sometimes without diagnostic and corrective intervention”
• On the whole, “the overarching characteristic” of in-service firearms training is the “wide latitude exercised by departments” — essentially a jumble of inconsistent standards and instructional modalities that too often works to the detriment of officers, agencies, and the communities they serve
“I agree with the thrust of Dr. Morrison’s findings and conclusions,” says Dr. Bill Lewinski, executive director of the Force Science Institute, which was not involved in the survey. “It’s tragic that the vast majority of firearms training today is not preparing officers for the brutal dynamics of real-world encounters and the sophisticated decision-making we hold them accountable for.”
Since the late 1980s and early 1990s, Morrison notes, there have been “significant improvements in the scope and depth of deadly force training.” His survey indicates that “several general characteristics associated with officer-involved shootings have become relatively common elements to handgun training: dim light, officer movement while firing, multiple targets, and moving targets.”
Also “most departments have introduced some form of scenario training,” in part in response to three landmark Supreme Court decisions (Tennessee v. Garner, Graham v. Connor, and Canton v. Harris). The formats employed include role-playing exercises with marking cartridges, live-fire range training, and computer-based, projected-image technology.
The devil, however, is in the details of just what these “relatively new dimensions to police handgun training” actually consist of.
Read further with Dr. Morrison's recommendations: New survey exposes 'disturbing' shortcomings in firearms training
Apart from creating moral godly families, living moral godly lives, and raising moral godly children one area that can yield desirable results is to take up the task of analyzing, designing, implementing, and assessing innovative training programs which “will improve police practices of benefit to both officers and public safety.”
I understand but a lot of the information used during the trail was from the fraud autopsy it even said that too you can look it up thats what I was talking about. Im not trying to debate this im saying why people might be mad. "dont doubt mike brown was the trouble maker but the fact that they are taking sides and even being so biased with the cop could really offend people." You have to understand these protesters and rioters will use this as fuel for their outbursts.