Single and Facing Solicitation in a Walmart Parking Lot. What Would You Do?

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jkalyna

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I have honestly considered this, seeing as I live in a state where carrying a gun on your hip is quite common.

To be completely honest though, I've never even held a gun and am a bit afraid of them. Maybe one day I'll come around.
I've handled many firearms, as my family has redistered firearms, in all states, where they live, and on their business property. It is no problem to shot first for me, as I am trained in marital arts, and marine combat, and firearms. If God be for us who could be against us. There is nothing greater that a living God, that is greater than cold metal. Also at the places for indoor target practice, I am a sharp shooter. yeah.
 
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jkalyna

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I've owned a gun for a few years now and the phrase "an armed society is a polite society" comes to mind.

Now that I know I have the power to defend in the most absolute way, I do not fear people. My lack of fear makes me calm and friendly in situations I would have run away in response to later on.

It sounds counter-intuitive, but if you want to rid yourself of that tension, up your arsenal.

Luke 22:36
It is true, "an armed society is a polite society." Those with redistered firearms, don't need or want to around loose canons. We are very realistic, and down to earth, with our nuts and bolts, stronge and secured, stable, it should be that way with those who carry, emotional, mentally stable, that is why there are strong stringent laws before they issue a permit. However living in Penn for a while, there is a lot of space for target practice, and a lot of my friends from knowing them at the trailer parks, have taught us a lot. Thank God they are very sound level minded.
 

Rachel20

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Being an Indian woman, and fearing for my safety is not a one-time thing

I think every Indian woman has faced some form of harassment and have learnt, sometimes the hard way how important it is to be careful.

Every time, I ask God for protection, for the blood of Jesus to cover me, and it has been His hand upon my life and His grace that has kept me safe. He has blessed me and saved me many times.


I have had many bad experiences, more than enough for a lifetime.

The thing that incenses me the most is how most of these were centered around the time I was a teenager.
When I was younger, it felt like the intensity of these things happening were a lot more than what it is now.

I believe some of it might have been innocence that would have attracted some of these predators. It's easier to target young girls and children, because they have no clue how to react!


When you're a schoolgirl and you get such attention, it bewilders you. (I am not talking about solicitations only)

For a while, I wondered what was wrong with me. Since India is also a very conservative society, I didn't even know who to turn to.

Cops are horrible over here. Not only are they slow to respond, rampant with corruption, they also disrespect women.

There are countless rape cases which probably never saw the light of day, because the accused had "connections".


In India, some people have this saying , I am paraphrasing, because I've heard it in another language, "We only want to tease you because you are very cute."

It's like it's your fault for getting unwanted attention from people.

So this is what I did - I cut my hair as short as a boy's and wore loose shirts like men.

It didn't work.


I've come to see it as more of a psychological power struggle more than anything.

It doesn't matter if you're educated or you're good or you're a decent humble human being. A woman is beneath a man according to some people.


Here are some of the incidents that I remember at the top of my head.



1. Walking home from grocery shopping in late afternoon, there were two young men hanging around nearby. They saw me and whistled and made cat calls.

I ignored them and continued to walk on. However within minutes, I noticed that a few other men had started joining them and I saw one of them calling his friends from the nearby buildings. Soon it was a group of 7-8 men, some of them who looked like teenagers but definitely the rowdy kind.

They all were whistling and one of them made a suggestive gesture at me.

I started panicking when I noticed that there was no one else on the road. My hands were full but I was prepared to run and I was prepared to scream.

I continued to walk ahead, ignoring them and then I noticed that this gang of men had started to follow me at a distance.

I shifted one of the bags on my hand and picked up the phone to call my mother. I also made a big show of doing that so that they all could see that I was calling someone.

However my mother was out at that point of time and she wasn't picking my calls. I was also praying that God would save me . I pretended to talk on the phone, just mumbling.

When I looked back, I saw that they had receded and soon I had crossed them.

This wasn't even a lonely place and it was in broad daylight. There have been numerous times when I've noticed I've been followed, but this was by far the scariest.



2. Again a late afternoon and again when I was walking home, but on a main road when a vehicle started following too close behind me.

If I stopped. It would stop. If I moved faster, it would pick up speed.

I took out my phone, took a picture and sent it over to a friend. Then it sped away.


3. I used to travel in a public bus, from some late classes I would take. There was an old man, who was sitting in the women's section and he started calling me "Baby." and trying to strike up a conversation with me.

I was around 15/16 and I just ignored this man. However as we were reaching my stop, I noticed then that there were no other women in the bus but another woman and it was all men.

It was a rainy dark night too. I remember praying to God that my stop would come before hers and that I would not be left alone.

God did answer that prayer for me. When I left, that woman I left back at the bus looked really wistful and afraid. She probably she wished her stop was before mine too.



4. Travelling home in an autorickshaw with a friend at night, from the same classes as these, the rickshaw driver kept asking us how old we were and other personal information.

We both were afraid that he would take us in a roundabout fashion and he did try.

When he finally dropped us, he gestured to me to ask me something.

Again paraphrasing, he asked me, " have you ever played those games that your parents probably play at night? Do you want to play with me?"

I was so disgusted and so repulsed and I had no idea how to respond to that man. I was only 16.

My biggest regret is my lack of reaction but to rear back in shame.
My friend stopped using autos and started going by bus. (Which was not a better experience for me).

I have never been able to tell my parents about these events. I have only relayed this to my friends.
 
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I've handled many firearms, as my family has redistered firearms, in all states, where they live, and on their business property. It is no problem to shot first for me, as I am trained in marital arts, and marine combat, and firearms. If God be for us who could be against us. There is nothing greater that a living God, that is greater than cold metal. Also at the places for indoor target practice, I am a sharp shooter. yeah.
I was an expert in the M-16 when I was serving in the 101st Airborne Division but that was many years ago. Your resume in self-defense is most impressive. In some areas of this country it is quite dangerous and it becomes necessary to protect yourself and those that you love.
 

tourist

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Being an Indian woman, and fearing for my safety is not a one-time thing

I think every Indian woman has faced some form of harassment and have learnt, sometimes the hard way how important it is to be careful.

Every time, I ask God for protection, for the blood of Jesus to cover me, and it has been His hand upon my life and His grace that has kept me safe. He has blessed me and saved me many times.


I have had many bad experiences, more than enough for a lifetime.

The thing that incenses me the most is how most of these were centered around the time I was a teenager.
When I was younger, it felt like the intensity of these things happening were a lot more than what it is now.

I believe some of it might have been innocence that would have attracted some of these predators. It's easier to target young girls and children, because they have no clue how to react!


When you're a schoolgirl and you get such attention, it bewilders you. (I am not talking about solicitations only)

For a while, I wondered what was wrong with me. Since India is also a very conservative society, I didn't even know who to turn to.

Cops are horrible over here. Not only are they slow to respond, rampant with corruption, they also disrespect women.

There are countless rape cases which probably never saw the light of day, because the accused had "connections".


In India, some people have this saying , I am paraphrasing, because I've heard it in another language, "We only want to tease you because you are very cute."

It's like it's your fault for getting unwanted attention from people.

So this is what I did - I cut my hair as short as a boy's and wore loose shirts like men.

It didn't work.


I've come to see it as more of a psychological power struggle more than anything.

It doesn't matter if you're educated or you're good or you're a decent humble human being. A woman is beneath a man according to some people.


Here are some of the incidents that I remember at the top of my head.



1. Walking home from grocery shopping in late afternoon, there were two young men hanging around nearby. They saw me and whistled and made cat calls.

I ignored them and continued to walk on. However within minutes, I noticed that a few other men had started joining them and I saw one of them calling his friends from the nearby buildings. Soon it was a group of 7-8 men, some of them who looked like teenagers but definitely the rowdy kind.

They all were whistling and one of them made a suggestive gesture at me.

I started panicking when I noticed that there was no one else on the road. My hands were full but I was prepared to run and I was prepared to scream.

I continued to walk ahead, ignoring them and then I noticed that this gang of men had started to follow me at a distance.

I shifted one of the bags on my hand and picked up the phone to call my mother. I also made a big show of doing that so that they all could see that I was calling someone.

However my mother was out at that point of time and she wasn't picking my calls. I was also praying that God would save me . I pretended to talk on the phone, just mumbling.

When I looked back, I saw that they had receded and soon I had crossed them.

This wasn't even a lonely place and it was in broad daylight. There have been numerous times when I've noticed I've been followed, but this was by far the scariest.



2. Again a late afternoon and again when I was walking home, but on a main road when a vehicle started following too close behind me.

If I stopped. It would stop. If I moved faster, it would pick up speed.

I took out my phone, took a picture and sent it over to a friend. Then it sped away.


3. I used to travel in a public bus, from some late classes I would take. There was an old man, who was sitting in the women's section and he started calling me "Baby." and trying to strike up a conversation with me.

I was around 15/16 and I just ignored this man. However as we were reaching my stop, I noticed then that there were no other women in the bus but another woman and it was all men.

It was a rainy dark night too. I remember praying to God that my stop would come before hers and that I would not be left alone.

God did answer that prayer for me. When I left, that woman I left back at the bus looked really wistful and afraid. She probably she wished her stop was before mine too.



4. Travelling home in an autorickshaw with a friend at night, from the same classes as these, the rickshaw driver kept asking us how old we were and other personal information.

We both were afraid that he would take us in a roundabout fashion and he did try.

When he finally dropped us, he gestured to me to ask me something.

Again paraphrasing, he asked me, " have you ever played those games that your parents probably play at night? Do you want to play with me?"

I was so disgusted and so repulsed and I had no idea how to respond to that man. I was only 16.

My biggest regret is my lack of reaction but to rear back in shame.
My friend stopped using autos and started going by bus. (Which was not a better experience for me).

I have never been able to tell my parents about these events. I have only relayed this to my friends.
I hope that you are able to come back to the United States one day.
 
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jkalyna

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I was an expert in the M-16 when I was serving in the 101st Airborne Division but that was many years ago. Your resume in self-defense is most impressive. In some areas of this country it is quite dangerous and it becomes necessary to protect yourself and those that you love.
I fired an AK 47 as a lesson from instructor. One thing I will say this, is to handle this, you need holy anger. Hard and straight at your target, and don't flinch a muscle, with this attitude nothing will survice in your way, almost like "being armed and dangerous as believers." without weapons, but with the weapons of spiritual warfare." They are the most strongest. Trust me, the word goes further than any weapon could. THe word of God. Across the universe. In prayer and faith, believing. People laugh that the most powerful weapon is the bible. Life will flash back one day, and it will be brought to their remembrance of that laughter, when it will be to late, now is the day to repent before dying without the repentance of sins.
 
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jkalyna

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I hope that you are able to come back to the United States one day.
It's not your fault, and you shouldn't feel unlovely or unbeautiful at all. This is from the devil, to take away your faith and image that you are the daugther of the most holy Lord God. Pure within and beautiful outside. The world marvles at the purity, it dosn't have, it creeps on people like those homosexuals in sodom and gomorrah they wanted to break Lots door down, and it said, ALL the men gathered at his house to see the 2 pure innocent angles, they didn't know were angles, they thought they were going to have their hay day, but they ended up blind, for life. Don't be afraid, God is Able, he was able on Mt. Moriah, to provide a sacrifice for Abrahman instead of his son Isaac, and don't lose your peace, God will protect you, don't let the devil make you think otherwise. Stay in peace, and in the beauty of God's holiness. HIs light of purness is enough to blind and destory the wicked, and it will. God Bless you and be with you. Shalom. :)
 

Rachel20

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I am sorry for my previously long post. Also, please forgive me, in case my inadvertent sharing of information made any of you uncomfortable.
Trust me though, there have been a lot more incidents in my life.

Though I thank and praise God, I've learnt and grown much wiser and also stronger. God has been there in my life, and for the last whole year, I don't remember any unpleasant incidents despite the increase of that happening in my country.

I also no longer travel in the public bus system.



Here are some of the things that I do --->


1. I always keep my parents informed of wherever I am. I take down numbers of autos and I keep them updated at every point where I am.


2. I insist on going only on the routes that I know. If any driver or anyone takes me some place I don't know, I throw a tantrum. I don't care if it makes me look like a stuck up person neither do I care if there's a shortcut.

It's my way and my way only.


3. There's an application that my friends use, which on a press of a "panic" button, sends GPS coordinates to trusted people as well as call a national helpline.


4. I trained myself in kickboxing and my father taught me to box. I am aware of self defense techniques and I try to keep myself physically fit. I used to run frequently.


5. Like JesusLives, mentioned in her post, I will scream and I won't just scream "Help." I'll scream "Rape, Fire, Murder, Thief" anything.


6. I try to keep myself always aware of surroundings. Not be absent minded but be PRESENT. I take a survey of my surroundings and I will factor in these -

Who is around me, who could be a threat, where I keep my phone, where I keep my wallet, all these things are always at the back of my mind.



For me, it's not a gun that has kept me safe nor do I think it has ever been a viable option. What could I do with a gun? Turn it around on someone who's whistling at me? My smartphone is worth more than a gun.


Also, it has been God who has kept me alive and safe till this point. Really Prayer is powerful and God is powerful.

He is mighty, strong, able and He can defend us against anything. What are human beings compared to Him and His army?

I am not afraid when I know HE is with me. He is my everything.
 

Rachel20

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I hope that you are able to come back to the United States one day.

I think I was more carefree in the USA, but I do think that we can be vulnerable anywhere :)


God bless you!
 
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jkalyna

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Pray untill you feel so close with the Lord, the HOly spirit speaks to us, he warns us of dangers. Were I used to live there were things going on there, one night I sat right up, something woke me up and it was as if in my spirit the words were there's danger here. The next day, something did happen, to someone's car. It happened many times. IT is a warning from the Lord to head out of that place. The HOly Spirit speaks, and when he does be sensitive to listen to him. He talks before things happen to protect us. Pray to him, he is all wisdom, and knows things before. For the eyes of God are upon all things. The Spirit of the Lord within us, is with us always, and he forewarns ahead. Use wisdom, meaning use companions to go. This awakening was abouta 3 am. and 4:30 a.m. the Lord warned there was danger and there was in the morning to someone. Jesus said, I will never leave you nor forsake you, even unto the ends of the earth. He is with us always.
 
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Being an Indian woman, and fearing for my safety is not a one-time thing

I think every Indian woman has faced some form of harassment and have learnt, sometimes the hard way how important it is to be careful.


Rachel, thank you for sharing these experiences with us. I can only imagine how terrifying they must have been for you. Your bravery and reliance on God to see you through to safety is so inspirational, and helps me to see that there ARE dangers in being a woman, life threatening dangers - especially in many parts of the world. It is a sobering thought.

I was raised in a very small town with very little crime, and rarely worried about my own safety. Even breaking down on the road while driving, numerous people would stop to assist me, and I was almost always treated kindly. As a result, I usually don't think of my safety now, even when traveling through bad parts of town or seeing people who look like they might be dangerous. I really should be less careless.

When I was 15 years old, I worked for an elderly man in his repair shop behind his house. It was a legitimate business and he needed someone to answer the phone and place orders. I lived just a mile or so from him, so it was a great way for me to earn some money a few days a week. However, before long I realized that he had targeted me for sexual molestation. He began making suggestive comments, and went on to show me porn magazines, asking if I had ever wanted to pose like that or do those things. I was very sheltered and did not know how to respond. I was raised to respect the elderly, and he used his age to his advantage, making his comments seem innocent or without sexual intent somehow. He became more bold and said or did other things, but never physically touched me. After enduring this for several months, I finally quit.

Later, as I was cashing my last paycheck, the woman who cashed it for me noticed his name and looked at me carefully. She said, "I need to tell you... to be careful around this man." I told her I had quit and this was my last paycheck. She nodded. No other words were exchanged, but there was a lot of communication in that look we shared. I felt stupid for a long time for not standing up for myself, but I'm thankful that it wasn't worse. So many aren't as fortunate.