Love and Respect.

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Rachel20

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Why do some people think that men need only respect and women can make do with only love?

I know these passages in the Bible tell us that women should respect their husbands and husbands should love their wives.


[ 1 Peter 3 :1

Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives,

Ephesians 5:25

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her

1 Peter 3:7

Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered

(this one asks husbands to honour their wives) ]


However, how does that somehow insinuate that respect is something needed much more by a man than a woman?

And likewise, from where does that thinking arise that women don’t need respect as much as men?

The reason I say this is because I have come across a few Christians who've told me that respect is a very big deal to men, but tried to imply it was not so much for women. I've read a few Christian literature also that tried to express such a viewpoint.

I don’t want to make this a gender thread people, but here’s a passage worth thinking about


Luke 6:31

Do to others as you would have them do to you.



Yes, we are to respect our husbands but honestly, men would you be okay with a woman not “loving “ you but just showing a mandatory semblance of “respect”?

So many times people make things about a particular gender but they forget that we are all human beings.

If you cut someone, they bleed. Whether they’re men or women.

According to me respect and love goes hand in hand.

Where there is no respect, there is no life. You respect a woman when you offer her the honour of letting her inside your heart.

When you trust her and ask her advice, because her opinion matters, you show her respect.
You also respect a woman when you respond to her questions and give her your time.

If you can’t respect a woman, then how can you become one with her?
 
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blue_ladybug

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​It is my belief that there needs to be respect shown on BOTH sides.. and also, respect is EARNED, not demanded or expected. No one is gonna respect a person who does not act respectably..
 

Blain

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I agree completely Rachel, however a thing I have seen in a lot of Christian men at least on here is that they seem think men is somehow better or more important than women. and honestly that kind of thinking just annoys the crap out of me.we are all equal in God's eyes but ppl love to pick apart scripture and not take in as a whole
 
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I think there is some truth to the saying that a man's top need is respect, and a woman's is love (actually, some say security).

This isn't an across-the-board true statement... there are bound to be exceptions. But on average, if a man's duty is to lead his family he would need respect, so even though mutual respect is absolutely vital to a healthy marriage, I can understand why men have special need of it. It's impossible to lead a home when there is no respect from the wife or children.

I think that the command to love your wives is all-encompassing and an even better deal for us, really. If a man loves his wife, he will also have regard for her, care for her feelings, want to please her and treat her well. I mean, if all of the "law" can be narrowed down to these two simple rules - to love the Lord your God, and love your neighbor as yourself, then we are really pretty much taken care of by God as far as his Word is concerned. :)
 
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Mitspa

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I had never really considered my need of respect from the (future) wife or even those in my past, but when I seen the truth that I as a man, I have a need for honor from the woman I love, and the need for love that woman has, it help me understand where things had went wrong in my past. Of course we should honor and love and we all need both, but a man has a special need to be honored from his wife and I believe a wife has a special need to know in absolute terms that she is loved (with or without her makeup)....I believe if we see these needs are real and godly and go the extra mile to provide these things to our mate? I believe it would take care of many issues that cause couples to stumble.
 
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jeremyPJ

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I don't understand why we have the saying that "Respect must be earned". Seems to me that Godly people should respect others until someone shows that they don't deserve respect. I've always wanted to make this point, as I don't understand why respect has to be earned first, if that's the case that means that when we first meet someone we don't have to show any respect at all until they "kiss up" to us or something...just sayin'.
 
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Nicee

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Both male and female need respect and Love.
 

Lynx

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I don't understand why we have the saying that "Respect must be earned". Seems to me that Godly people should respect others until someone shows that they don't deserve respect. I've always wanted to make this point, as I don't understand why respect has to be earned first, if that's the case that means that when we first meet someone we don't have to show any respect at all until they "kiss up" to us or something...just sayin'.
Precisely. Now if you do something to forfeit my respect you'll have to earn it back. If you act like a jerk the first time we meet it'll be hard for me to respect you. But until I know something about you I will automatically respect you as a fellow human.
 
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Once you earn enough respect you can start selling it for a profit!

 
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Tintin

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Men primarily feel loved when they're respected. Women primarily feel respected when they're loved.
 
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Sometimes, I have seen, that respect reflects this same longing (Mat 23:5 They do all their deeds to be seen by others.) which is egotist, selfish and foolish.

Sometimes that recognition sought served for nothing (Mat 23:6 and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats) until the moment something bad occurred (Luke 14:8-9 do not sit down in a place of honor, lest someone more distinguished than you be invited by him... 'Give your place to this person...')

Either sex would seek it wrongly!
 

Reborn

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"The woman was made of a rib out of the side of Adam; not made out of his head to rule over him, nor out of his feet to be trampled upon by him, but out of his side to be equal with him, under his arm to be protected, and near his heart to be beloved." -Matthew Henry

Sums it up. :D
 
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Mitspa

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I have a question? Why would a woman ever marry a man they did not know to be worthy of her respect? I think maybe the dating process is where a man should prove the type of man he is?
 
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MissCris

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I have a question? Why would a woman ever marry a man they did not know to be worthy of her respect? I think maybe the dating process is where a man should prove the type of man he is?

Short answer....impatience and naivety. Oh, and ignoring warning signs.
 
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Ararat

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Rachel we didn't c anymore from you..? And as i do agree with Mr.Tintin saying :
Men primarily feel loved when they're respected.
Women primarily feel respected when they're loved.

Koz i would ask if there might be LOVE without RESPECT..? Mz Rachel r u with us..?
 
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Men primarily feel loved when they're respected. Women primarily feel respected when they're loved.
Look at this guy.

Being all deep, and wise, and concise, and easily understandable all at the same time.

Who does he think he is!?

:p
 
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Tintin

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Look at this guy.

Being all deep, and wise, and concise, and easily understandable all at the same time.

Who does he think he is!?

:p
Thanks, my dear sister! I feel both honoured and humbled.
 

Rachel20

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To be quite frank, while I appreciate the replies and the thinking, many of the posts that I have come across just seem to be derived from popular logic. I am not completely convinced.


The idea that men have a special need to be respected owing to the fact that they would be leaders in the units of family, comes from 1 Timothy 3, where the roles of overseers of the church is discussed.

" for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church?"

Does this really conclude that men deserve more respect? ( This is quite an interesting study really, about men and women in the Bible and their roles. )

This is a good passage.

1 Corinthians 11:3-8

But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. [SUP]5 [/SUP]But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For man is not from woman, but woman from man. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man.




While most women have no issue about the passages with submission to the husband, how many women continue to cover their heads while in worship?

The practice of this has left most churches. It's also impractical to cover your head all the time, when we're called to "pray without ceasing"
Also, head coverings and other practices are indicative of Islamic practices that are almost universally condemned for it's regressive depictions of women.

We, as the Church have sometimes proudly worn the title of being progressive towards women, and head coverings seem to be a massive step back.

Personally, having discussed with a few Christian men, I've noticed that their view on the head covering is also to put it across in a the prism of cultural shifts.


We have no problem in expressing differences between men and women, however if we dig deeper, can we say that men make better leaders?

To admit this would imply an inferiority in the other gender (women) as being not so able in roles of leadership.

I'll even go a step further , and ask do we believe that women are inferior to men? How would you take note of Biblical passages wherein women are under the authority of men , either husbands or fathers? They could cancel their vows and a rapist would marry his victim, that he would never be allowed to divorce?

How about Ecclesiastes 7:28

"while I was still searching but not finding-- I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all."



These are good questions that I am throwing at some of you. I have been working on my understanding of all this, but I am interested to know the opinions of many of you "regulars" :)


If you admit that women are lesser than men, that would be interesting. If you don't , I want to see people's reasonings.
 

Oncefallen

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We have no problem in expressing differences between men and women, however if we dig deeper, can we say that men make better leaders?

To admit this would imply an inferiority in the other gender (women) as being not so able in roles of leadership.
As a generalization men tend to make better leaders than women. Even in today's progressive workplace in corporate America with women reaching high levels of management (even CEO's of major corporations). In light of that, when polled even most women prefer to work under a man rather than a woman. (sorry, I don't have the time to dig up the study, iy was something I read a couple of years ago)

To say that men make better leaders does not place women in a position of inferiority, just a position of difference. To imply that men are somehow superior just because they are better at leading makes about as much sense to me as saying that my neighbor is superior to me just because he's a better mechanic than I am since I am a better painter than he is. God, in His wisdom, gave men the mental and emotional tools to be better leaders, but he also gave women the tools that they need to be better nurturers. Not superior or inferior, just different.