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Users in this thread are being overzealous. The magic you see on the big stage is not comprised of witchcraft, but brain games, tricks on the mind. There is a science behind magic. You'll find articles about it on the web. Look up terms like 'sleight of hand' and what-not.
Mirages in deserts, where you think you see a body of water, but a body of water isn't actually there, is also a common brain trick that may be seen as "magic".
Science is not demonic in origin.
Mirages in deserts, where you think you see a body of water, but a body of water isn't actually there, is also a common brain trick that may be seen as "magic".
Science is not demonic in origin.
A man playing a game of tricks and " mind tricks " is not the same as a mirage in the dessert... That's really what's happening, that looks a certain way to make you believe something that's not true.. NO LIE involved... No setup but nature(not lying) itself .. Now when man intends to fool you, it's just that an intended farce to " trick ". Nice try though...
Performances that modern observers would recognize as conjuring have been practiced throughout history.[citation needed] For many recorded centuries, magicians were associated with the devil and the occult. During the 19th and 20th centuries, many stage magicians even capitalized on this notion in their advertisements.[4] The same level of ingenuity that was used to produce famous ancient deceptions such as the Trojan Horse would also have been used for entertainment, or at least for cheating in money games. They were also used by the practitioners of various religions and cults from ancient times onwards to frighten uneducated people into obedience or turn them into adherents. However, the profession of the illusionist gained strength only in the 18th century, and has enjoyed several popular vogues since.
If you still agree that it's ok after what has been written here in this thread, Houdini, all the way down to LIES... " up to the individual "
I will end today with this ..
8Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. 9Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
If you still agree that it's ok after what has been written here in this thread, Houdini, all the way down to LIES... " up to the individual "
I will end today with this ..
8Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. 9Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
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(slight-of-hand) is a form of deception - all of the occult if full of deception
because it comes from a deceptive source, or, 'the liar from the beginning'.
the allurement comes in a step-wise-fashion, it gets your attention by
something acceptable and then it draws you further in to the next step,
which may not be so acceptable.
the common 'satanic trick', is to use a lesser evil to eventually get one
to step into a greater evil.
if one opens the 'door', they then become subject to the darkness within.
(slight-of-hand) is a form of deception - all of the occult if full of deception
because it comes from a deceptive source, or, 'the liar from the beginning'.
the allurement comes in a step-wise-fashion, it gets your attention by
something acceptable and then it draws you further in to the next step,
which may not be so acceptable.
the common 'satanic trick', is to use a lesser evil to eventually get one
to step into a greater evil.
if one opens the 'door', they then become subject to the darkness within.
K
Some people are more legalistic than others when it comes to the Christian faith.We can give opinions all day long but in your heart you know whether what your doing is wrong.I suspect that all that is bothering you is the store you are going to.And I think you're probably right there.It may not necessarily be a sin but if you feel convicted its just best not to do it.As far as the illusions people seem to have quite a misunderstanding of what an illusion is.It is not magic,it isnt even trickery,its your brain making you think you see something you are not seeing. For example....are these bars crooked or straight?
This is spot on, satan is not just going to move someone in to slaughtering children for sacrifice on a mass scale, he will incrementally kill the soul, he starts off with little reindeer games as a rabbit out of a hat, or show you dancing ghost at Disney land. Satan preys on the weak minded first, and that's what creates the deception for the rest.. Like " hypnosis " of a crowd that magicians like to do, these things get darker in increments. I see a lot of opinions on this thread, and no scripture, except for one verse of John that the poster won't tell me what it means to be " free ". Any how, very good post oldthenew, it helps with what I didn't already say but was thinking about.. God bless
I have to say, it is unreal to me that ANY believer would justify practicing magic...
Even low level magic is dangerous, what if one of those young ones gets interested into magic by watching a "fellow believer" perform magic tricks. It could lead them down a path that leads directly to the adversary....
We have reached the day where believers think magic is ok... WOW.
Deuteronomy 18:10-14, "Let there not be found among you one who sacrifices his son or his daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, Casts spells, or who consults familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. Anyone who practices these is abominable to Yahweh, and because of these abominable practices, Yahweh your Father is driving out the nations in front of you. You must be G4perfect in front of Yahweh your Father. These nations, which you are driving out, now listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, Yahweh your Father has definitely not appointed such things to you."
Even low level magic is dangerous, what if one of those young ones gets interested into magic by watching a "fellow believer" perform magic tricks. It could lead them down a path that leads directly to the adversary....
We have reached the day where believers think magic is ok... WOW.
Deuteronomy 18:10-14, "Let there not be found among you one who sacrifices his son or his daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, Casts spells, or who consults familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. Anyone who practices these is abominable to Yahweh, and because of these abominable practices, Yahweh your Father is driving out the nations in front of you. You must be G4perfect in front of Yahweh your Father. These nations, which you are driving out, now listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, Yahweh your Father has definitely not appointed such things to you."
Yeah I know HAHHAH
This is a optical illusion ... Which someone drew up to be deceptive with " straight lines ". The OP said he was looking for cards and coins, HE ASKED if telling someone your lying, after lying is it still a lie, and you answer with your not lying ... Is that a joke ? Optical illusions is only part of magic, to say " we're not talking about the more sinister stuff " is like saying we aren't telling a big lie just the little ones...
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For the last time, there is a science behind magic. Research it, here's an article to start you off.
How optical illusions trick your brain, according to science - The Week
The article linked above shouldn't be the only article that you would read on this subject. Research man, you'll find that it is not about magic, but the brain. The term "Magic" is used to appeal to the youngsters.
How optical illusions trick your brain, according to science - The Week
The article linked above shouldn't be the only article that you would read on this subject. Research man, you'll find that it is not about magic, but the brain. The term "Magic" is used to appeal to the youngsters.