Puzzled, Why Not Talk to God About the Sabbath?
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Im not the one boasting in the law...you guys are But im sure there is more holiness under my finger nail than either of you have ever had... 
in you, apparently, you steal, commit adultery, and honor idols....... instead of remaining in Christ Jesus....
that's odd, because Jesus says whoever you serve, they are your god. ....
so, one more chance then, as love hopes for the best, do you steal? do you commit adultery? do you HONOR IDOLS?
I don't , and no- sin should not abound so that grace can abound all the more. either you serve Jesus, or the other.
So, is it still in effect? Is it still sin to violate the Law? If it is then we need Christ's sacrifice and grace, but if the Law is done away, then grace is no longer necessary because one cannot sin without Law...
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Sin is...
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
If there is no Law, there is no sin. If there is no sin, what does anyone need a Savior for? There are not guilty of transgression and do not need the blood of Christ to justify them...
Rom 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
So, if the Law is done away, this sacrifice is unnecessary for us.
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Sin is...
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
If there is no Law, there is no sin. If there is no sin, what does anyone need a Savior for? There are not guilty of transgression and do not need the blood of Christ to justify them...
Rom 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
So, if the Law is done away, this sacrifice is unnecessary for us.
Obeying the Law will justify no one...
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Disobeying does bring the death penalty...
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Disobeying without regard, in other words, willful disobedience brings damnation...
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Obedience brings blessings but does not earn eternal life. On the other hand, willful disobedience or disregard is trampling the sacrifice of Christ underfoot and treating His shed blood as a common thing and brings eternal death.
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Disobeying does bring the death penalty...
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Disobeying without regard, in other words, willful disobedience brings damnation...
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Obedience brings blessings but does not earn eternal life. On the other hand, willful disobedience or disregard is trampling the sacrifice of Christ underfoot and treating His shed blood as a common thing and brings eternal death.
You keep trying to come up two versions of the Law. Jesus Christ is the One who spoke the Law to Moses and Israel. He is the Lawgiver...
Jas 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
There is only one Law. The New Covenant is based on the Torah as we read in Heb 8...
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
There was a fault with the first Covenant. What was it?
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
The fault was with the PEOPLE, not the Law. What was the fault?
Heb 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
God promised that in the future, He would fix the fault. What was the fix?
Deu 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
He would give people a change of heart, not of Law. The change of heart is the New Covenant...
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
God will give people a change of heart to understand, love and keep His Law.
by the way, Hebrews 8:8-11 is a direct, verbatim quote of Jer 31:31-34. Notice that the word for Law in verse 33 is...
H8451
תֹּרָה תּוֹרָה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.
Total KJV occurrences: 219
God did not make a mistake in by giving the Law. He is not on version 2.7 or 3.6 today. He does not change the Law every whipstitch because of man's heart, He changes man's heart.
Jas 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
There is only one Law. The New Covenant is based on the Torah as we read in Heb 8...
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
There was a fault with the first Covenant. What was it?
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
The fault was with the PEOPLE, not the Law. What was the fault?
Heb 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
God promised that in the future, He would fix the fault. What was the fix?
Deu 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
He would give people a change of heart, not of Law. The change of heart is the New Covenant...
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
God will give people a change of heart to understand, love and keep His Law.
by the way, Hebrews 8:8-11 is a direct, verbatim quote of Jer 31:31-34. Notice that the word for Law in verse 33 is...
H8451
תֹּרָה תּוֹרָה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.
Total KJV occurrences: 219
God did not make a mistake in by giving the Law. He is not on version 2.7 or 3.6 today. He does not change the Law every whipstitch because of man's heart, He changes man's heart.
It's purpose is not to help man overcome, it's purpose is to DEFINE sin...
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
The Holy Spirit is what gives us the power to overcome.
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
The Holy Spirit is what gives us the power to overcome.