Men: To pursue or not to pursue. Apprehensions? Fears?/ Women: The line

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blue_ladybug

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I've never been the pursuer.. I'm always the pursue-ee.. lol :/ However those days are long gone, thank gawsh..
 
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Brighthouse

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In my ah hay day,I always believed a woman wanted her man to go after her with great passion!! And since i sure was, and am no any Paul Newman,or Tom Cruise it was personality that became my strong point.LOL How bad you truly wish for something to happen in ones own life depends greatly upon what one is willing to do to have it.

As a younger male,I learned how to grow out of fear rather then to dive into it,I learned that no matter what others say and think,you decide on your own worth,in or out of Christ Jesus,much better in of course! Because in Christ Jesus you also now have something you did not have before!! A firm foundation!!( psalm 40:1-3)

The Word talks about in James 2:17 Even so faith without works is dead, being by itself,which is indeed where we are without Jesus in our lives. But what is that work??The answer can be found in scripture as well!!( john 6:28-29!!!) Believing Jesus has always, and will always love,leaves room in your mind to be confident,and indeed established in his love!

People see this,they can tell by ones own body language where you are already at in your own mind,at least at present they can. So now when I look to a lady for companionship,and wisdom,I believe through Jesus I will find this. And I am happy to say i have many ladies who enjoy my company as well. hehe For it is not about the flesh, any longer with me,it is about finding a lady,who enjoys her own company as well,and is confident and established in herself!

There is purpose now,rather then need,there is peace rather then becoming anxious, there is acceptance rather then looking to change another the way you want them! There is no threat to either of us.This is called having, and building upon a relationship. Rather then looking to use each other like dish rags,just for yourself to enjoy!

This of course is just something for another to consider,but I can tell you this,that this mindset works!! It is works with faith! For to believe in Jesus, is the very work of God himself! And from belief, good fruit is born to you, and others who will really enjoy your company as well!( 1 cor 16:13-14!!)

For doing this, you will never have fear again!!( 1 john 4:17-19!!) The work of Jesus comes from belief in him!! ( luke 18:35-43) many are at verse 41, belief in Jesus gets you past verse 41 into( phil 3:12-14 in ones own mindset!! A dandy place to not only be in,but stay and rest in!! Jesus is not only concerned about ones own needs, but you wants as well!! he does not wish for you to be in want!!( psalm 23:1) ( psalm 34:10,and verses 17-18!!) and this under the law!! Think how much more in Christ Jesus we have now!! hehe
 
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Charcoal

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This raises another question - to bait or not to bait?
To attempt to re-rail this thing...

I agree with those who express the opinion that there is a reasonable amount of pursuit in a proper courtship, but that if taken to excess it is folly. I feel that part of balancing this is the "baiting." Not being a tease, but giving honest indications of a desire to be wooed.
 

Calmador

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Would I pursue? YES... RAWR! However, I'm picky. ;)

As for fears? I'm afraid of rejection, but that's just part of the whole deal. Also, I have more fears and repulsiveness of a woman pursuing me... since I don't want to be with one of those feminist-nazi-control-freak-liberal-garbage-women. I hate their thoughts.

Its fine to pursue as long as both people are okay with it. Its creepy when the pursuing person does it for sinful reasons such as control, lust, looking to use you for another goal... and its also creepy for the pursuee when he/she has expressed a clear line of not wanting to be pursued. I'm smart!

I'd like to do super cool stunts to win a woman's heart over. That would be EPIC. I wanted to play the guitar and sing for a girl once... but she and I failed just before that (sigh)

Thats okay, there's billions of girls out there muahahaha :D (or millions since she'd have to be Christian)
 
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Shouryu

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But you can still bear arms. Can you arm bears?
I actually used that in a work email today, just before you posted this, Isaac. "We were told to dress 'patriotic.' Could they make the mandate any more vague? What does that even MEAN? I'm going to dress as the 2nd amendment: the right to arm bears and form them into a well-delegated militia."
 

jsr1221

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If two people are interested in each other they should just say it. None of this chase and catch or play hard to get games. It's honestly my biggest pet peeve when it comes to relationships. Whatever happened to getting to know one another? Going out to the park. Or to a book store? Instead of sending these mixed emotions?
 

Roh_Chris

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To attempt to re-rail this thing...

I agree with those who express the opinion that there is a reasonable amount of pursuit in a proper courtship, but that if taken to excess it is folly. I feel that part of balancing this is the "baiting." Not being a tease, but giving honest indications of a desire to be wooed.
Good point Charcoal. :)

I think the baiting and the hunting must go hand in hand. But within limits obviously... :rolleyes:
 

Lynx

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Shouryu: I dunno, bears don't seem to take delegation very well. >.>

Roh_Chris: Yeah, and with this topic that's not the only thing that goes hand-in-hand.
 

JesusLives

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I've never been the pursuer.. I'm always the pursue-ee.. lol :/ However those days are long gone, thank gawsh..
Lady Blue I would not be so sure of that you are only 44 and I am 59 and love has caught up to me and captured my heart when I thought I had become the worlds best Ice Queen....But that tourist somehow melted my heart....and I'm a gonner....You might be too someday if the right godly man shows up on your chat site.
 

JesusLives

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It's constitutional. Just check the belt buckle, bud!
This is really proves Bears do have arms of both kinds.....Thanks for helping the Blond prove her point that Bear's still have arms.....lol
 
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falcon24

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Very reluctant to pursue. Besides the fact things have changed so much with text, chatrooms, fb, online dating, etc....., when is it actually appropriate to ask someone out? I just try to focus on my relationship with Christ and allow him to direct my path in that area like i do with my career and parenting. I can do it myself and end up with a worldly or religious (even worse in my humble opinion), or allow my father to lead me to the one he has for me.

Matthew 6:33 - seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things will be added to you
 
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DCrawshawJr

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I was reading something on Theodore Roosevelt on how he was really being persistent in asking to marry his first wife. He even threatened suicide! Needless to say, I won't go that far, but I do believe in pursuing the women. Aren't men supposed to be the pursuers anyway? Yes, women can make their marital status known, but in my opinion, the guys have to pursue and the girls have to reply, even if they say no.
 
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Men: To pursue or not to pursue. Apprehensions? Fears?

Women: When does a guy's pursuing pass the line and enter into 'creep/he seems desperate/needy' territory?
What are defining factors of genuine pursuing vs. creepy? Does it come down to attraction? To a feeling the person gives off? Personality?

I am reminded of the Notebook (yes...), when Noah who is below that girl's social standard, finally wins her over- at first she wants nothing to do with him, but he performs these stunts, goes to great lengths to pursue her and finally it works. Is that how it works?

Fears - women don't want a good guy, they look for someone who ignores them, who treats them like garbage, usually because they have a false, or bad identity which plays into a self hatred that says, I deserve a jerk.

Apprehensions - tired of trying, and failing. Tired of praying and hoping to pursue God's way. Singleness looks better and better each day sometimes

a tension and struggle
 
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MollyConnor

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This is really interesting because I was raised not to show ANY signs of interest in a man before he does. I was told it isn't ladylike and that if a man really is interested in me, he would do the chasing. I'm not saying I want someone like Noah from The Notebook, doing crazy stunts to get my attention, but to start talking to me would be nice. I'm even afraid to talk to guys to be honest. I just don't want to come off as annoying or out there. Plus I'm naturally very shy and socially awkward. LOL

Men are supposed to lead the women, it's biblical. I suppose the first sign of his leadership ability is to take the initiative to talk to the girl first.
 
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This is really interesting because I was raised not to show ANY signs of interest in a man before he does. I was told it isn't ladylike and that if a man really is interested in me, he would do the chasing. I'm not saying I want someone like Noah from The Notebook, doing crazy stunts to get my attention, but to start talking to me would be nice. I'm even afraid to talk to guys to be honest. I just don't want to come off as annoying or out there. Plus I'm naturally very shy and socially awkward. LOL

Men are supposed to lead the women, it's biblical. I suppose the first sign of his leadership ability is to take the initiative to talk to the girl first.
True, however... something that men find attractive is interest from women. So your shown interest (not blatant, just a smile or a greeting) may be the very thing that encourages him to initiate.
 
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Jacob_Fitzgerald

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This is really interesting because I was raised not to show ANY signs of interest in a man before he does.
I have never heard of the "not to show ANY sings of interets" before. So what happens when a guy does show interest in her and she keeps not showing interest in the guy? How long should he show interest before quiting?



I was told it isn't ladylike and that if a man really is interested in me, he would do the chasing.
I am all for the chase - hunting, chasing my escaped kite down, chasing the cat at bedtime;) - but - the lady has to at least smile over her shoulder playfully at me then dash away, before I give chase.