Anyone Waking Up Yet!

[Human]

I had difficulty with the forum yesterday, and it wouldn't accurately accept the links I provided in a couple posts, which I therefore deleted because, without the links, they lacked clarity. So I'm going to try again.

The refusal to accept that France has "no-go zones" in which Sharia Law is enforced, and which are dangerous enclaves for French police to enter, is nothing short of delusional fantasy. It is well-known that these closed communities exist, and are of major concern to French police, but up until last week, were of little to no concern to French politicians.

The proof of these enclaves is well-documented. In fact, in answer to one of the "unbelievers" (Translate: terrorist apologists) I will say that yes, I have been to Paris and seen these neighborhoods for myself. It was while I was at an international marriage and family conference sponsored by the APA a couple years ago. Further, I was told by French police and a Parisian psychologist specializing in marriage and family as I do, that bands of young "patrolmen" for lack of a better word with actively and violently confront police if they dare enter the communities for any reason.

But among the other documentation I can provide are these.

Hundreds of 'No-Go Zones' Across France Are Off-Limits to Non-Muslims

‘No-Go Zones’ in France Restrict Citizens & Allow Islamists to Conquer Territory Without Firing a Shot

The shocking reality of 'no-go' zones: France has no control over Muslim-populated neighborhoods

European 'No-Go' Zones for Non-Muslims Proliferating:"Occupation Without Tanks or Soldiers"

That anyone has the never to deny the existence of these communities simply reveals their own willingness to be deluded by much of the media, and your own refusal to accept reality. In that respect, you emulate our "leader" -- a term to be applied facetiously at best and with great embarrassment in reality -- who refuses to name our enemy as Islamist terrorism, and had no compassion nor sympathy for the victims of terrorism to the extent that he would not join the real leaders of the world in yesterday's Paris march against Islamist terrorism. Today, America is ashamed because of him.

There are places white people can't go in London because black gangs are rampant. Places in Belfast that Catholics can't go because they'll get beat, stabbed or shot. Places in Birmingham that Londoners can't go. Places in New York that various nationalities can't go. All of these places are major concerns for police.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

There are places white people can't go in London because black gangs are rampant. Places in Belfast that Catholics can't go because they'll get beat, stabbed or shot. Places in Birmingham that Londoners can't go. Places in New York that various nationalities can't go. All of these places are major concerns for police.

Your apologist mentality is showing. You see, the difference you refuse to acknowledge is that the people who live in those neighborhoods in London, Belfast, Birmingham, New York -- or for that matter, similar neighborhoods in Kansas City -- don't have anything to fear, for the most part, from those gangs. Leave them alone, and the gangs will leave the people alone.

The difference in the "no-go zones" is that the "patrolmen" are the enforcers, dragging people before the local imams for judgment and punishment, completely outside the purview of French police and the judicial system. Sharia Law reigns, whether you will acknowledge it or not. And if you won't, it makes no difference. It simply proves my point that you and others who hold to the same denial are willfully self-deluded. The rest of us pity you.

 

[Human]

Your apologist mentality is showing. You see, the difference you refuse to acknowledge is that the people who live in those neighborhoods in London, Belfast, Birmingham, New York -- or for that matter, similar neighborhoods in Kansas City -- don't have anything to fear, for the most part, from those gangs. Leave them alone, and the gangs will leave the people alone.

Is that why I got my head kicked in walking through a Protestant Belfast estate? Is that why Catholics and Protestants have been killing each other there for years? Is that why black gangs in London go into houses and rob rich folks? Is that why the Mafia in New York take to killing all around the city? Wise up.

The difference in the "no-go zones" is that the "patrolmen" are the enforcers, dragging people before the local imams for judgment and punishment, completely outside the purview of French police and the judicial system. Sharia Law reigns, whether you will acknowledge it or not. And if you won't, it makes no difference. It simply proves my point that you and others who hold to the same denial are willfully self-deluded. The rest of us pity you.

If the crime is discovered, the crime will be investigated mate. Doesn't matter if its in Hackney in London, on the Shankill Road in Belfast, in Compton in LA or in Clichy-Monfermeille in Paris.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Is that why I got my head kicked in walking through a Protestant Belfast estate? Is that why Catholics and Protestants have been killing each other there for years? Is that why black gangs in London go into houses and rob rich folks? Is that why the Mafia in New York take to killing all around the city? Wise up.

You "wise up" and reread what I wrote. Your experience is irrelevant. You were an outsider.

If the crime is discovered, the crime will be investigated mate. Doesn't matter if its in Hackney in London, on the Shankill Road in Belfast, in Compton in LA or in Clichy-Monfermeille in Paris.

Male bovine excretory material. I know better. The French people know better. Your delusional ranting doesn't make it any different than it actually is. So rant on, McDuff, and the rest of us will live in reality.

The sad fact is, I know you're not delusional. You're simply a misguided leftist apologist whose politically correct mentality will not let you name real evil when it presents itself to you, for fear of "offending" someone. They don't care if you're offended or not. They will kill you regardless, if for no other reason than you aren't one of them.

God help you. He's going to have to.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Your apologist mentality is showing. You see, the difference you refuse to acknowledge is that the people who live in those neighborhoods in London, Belfast, Birmingham, New York -- or for that matter, similar neighborhoods in Kansas City -- don't have anything to fear, for the most part, from those gangs. Leave them alone, and the gangs will leave the people alone.

The difference in the "no-go zones" is that the "patrolmen" are the enforcers, dragging people before the local imams for judgment and punishment, completely outside the purview of French police and the judicial system. Sharia Law reigns, whether you will acknowledge it or not. And if you won't, it makes no difference. It simply proves my point that you and others who hold to the same denial are willfully self-deluded. The rest of us pity you.

I have to disagree with you here, because I grew up and lived most my life in the Kansas City metro area and went to Kansas City schools. To say just leave them alone and they will leave you alone is false......

I have seen first hand, and have taking the brunt from gangs even though I was ignoring them and did nothing to them.

 

[Kencore]

Again all I had was 2 simple questions for Human that again will go unanswered. What do you think will happen when you ask him a more involved question? Well if your question has merit as to the violent reality of islam then you'll be diverted by about a half dozen unrelated questions. When you don't have the answers to said unrelated questions you and or your sources shut down as ignorant or babble. Or he plays the victim because his question went unanswered when all you wanted was a simple answer to a simple question. Typical apologist technique..

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

I have to disagree with you here, because I grew up and lived most my life in the Kansas City metro area and went to Kansas City schools. To say just leave them alone and they will leave you alone is false...

You too utterly failed to see what I said. Go read it again.

Hint: I was not talking about outsiders. I was talking about their own people they live among. For them, what I said is absolute truth. Outsiders -- you and me -- no, we will not be "left alone." We're out of place, in the wrong place, according to them. The gangs do leave their own people, their neighbors and community residents, alone if they don't bother the gangs.

That is my point. The "no-go zones" are different in that that Sharia Law is the guiding set of principles by which the mullahs or imams -- the same office, just originating from a different part of the culture -- judge, and the self-appointed "patrolmen" I mentioned earlier are the ones who drag the violators before the mosque leader to be judged.

 

[kennethcadwell]

You too utterly failed to see what I said. Go read it again.

Hint: I was not talking about outsiders. I was talking about their own people they live among. For them, what I said is absolute truth. Outsiders -- you and me -- no, we will not be "left alone." We're out of place, in the wrong place, according to them. The gangs do leave their own people, their neighbors and community residents, alone if they don't bother the gangs.

That is my point. The "no-go zones" are different in that that Sharia Law is the guiding set of principles by which the mullahs or imams -- the same office, just originating from a different part of the culture -- judge, and the self-appointed "patrolmen" I mentioned earlier are the ones who drag the violators before the mosque leader to be judged.

Did you not read what I said, as I was not an outsider.
I lived among them, went to school with them, and worked with them. They still did not leave me alone even though I did nothing to them. I was constantly harassed, in fights, and had to watch my back constantly. Why is that if like you say if you leave them alone, they will leave you alone? Because that is not true, as I grew up with it for over 12 years......

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Did you not read what I said, as I was not an outsider.

Pfft. I can see your picture. Yes, you were an outsider. You could have lived there 50 years, and you still would have been an outsider. You could never be like nor understand the people among whom you lived, and it is arrogant of you to think you could ever call yourself "one of them." Not then, not now, not ever.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Pfft. I can see your picture. Yes, you were an outsider. You could have lived there 50 years, and you still would have been an outsider. You could never be like nor understand the people among whom you lived, and it is arrogant of you to think you could ever call yourself "one of them." Not then, not now, not ever.

What ???
I was born and raised in Kansas City metro, it is not like I moved in among them.
I was born and grew up with them, some of them were at one point elementary school friends. Then when they entered the gangs they became enemies, as they harrassed, picked on, and got into fights with me......
I tried to remove myself from all confrontations, but they would not let it happen.

 

[Kencore]

Law Society withdraws Sharia succession principles practice note - The Law Society

Law Society withdraws Sharia succession principles practice note

24 November 2014

The Law Society has withdrawn its practice note on Sharia succession principles following feedback, including from some members.
Law Society president Andrew Caplen said:
'Our practice note was intended to support members to better serve their clients as far as is allowed by the law of England and Wales.
'We reviewed the note in the light of criticism. We have withdrawn the note and we are sorry.'
Ends
Notes to editors

The note was published on 13 March 2014 for solicitors instructed to prepare a valid will which follows Sharia succession rules. The note was removed from the Law Society website today (24 November 2014).

- See more at: Law Society withdraws Sharia succession principles practice note - The Law Society

Ok djness, I guess that means that there is really no problem at all right? That is still a massive problem! Look I live in America where there is big immigration from South America. But never do we get from them the need to change the judicial system. Now when Muslims come to town it is their duty period, and this isn't a radical interpretation of the koran. Muslims in numbers fail to assimilate, just read the news in Europe it's everywhere with absolutely no exaggerations needed, so we have plenty of real world examples. So I will not acknowledge any responses regarding islamophobia.
Now if we want to look at this from a Biblical perspective lens then you can see why Christians have their doubt. We cannot deny that we are living in very uncertain times. Wars are everywhere, rumors of wars are everywhere, the world has economic issues everywhere, diseases, I.E pestilence are popping up at an alarming rate. So as Christian, the Biblical bells should be going off in your mind. If not let me refer you to the Prophet Daniel.

He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time. (*Daniel‬ *7‬:*25‬ NKJV)

is there anyone who speaks more pompous words and try to change times and laws? If your wondering about the "Times" portion of the passage. Islam also has their own calendar which they would like to implement as well.

 

[Kencore]

You've insinuated the man is Muslim without proof, and you're offended he struck back?

You see what I mean???

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Then when they entered the gangs they became enemies, as they harrassed, picked on, and got into fights with me.......

I rest my case.

Great googly moogly, and why do you suppose you weren't recruited for a gang?

 

[Kencore]

Here's quick 3 minute video from Bill Warner that gives insight into why muslims would want to kill satirists. Because muhammed did...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZPqak-_eI

 

[kennethcadwell]

I rest my case. View attachment 95499

Great googly moogly, and why do you suppose you weren't recruited for a gang?

View attachment 95500

I was, and I refused............................

 

[djness]

Ok djness, I guess that means that there is really no problem at all right? That is still a massive problem!

First off you are difficult to talk to , I hope at some point you realize this, you don't just jump to conclusions , you fire yourself out of the cannon. I can't even keep up with the extreme distance you travel to reach your points. Someone asks you to pass the ketchup , you back up the cement mixer of tomato sauce you magically keep hidden.....

Look I live in America where there is big immigration from South America. But never do we get from them the need to change the judicial system. Now when Muslims come to town it is their duty period, and this isn't a radical interpretation of the koran. Muslims in numbers fail to assimilate, just read the news in Europe it's everywhere with absolutely no exaggerations needed, so we have plenty of real world examples. So I will not acknowledge any responses regarding islamophobia.

You live in America and you don't see laws changing because of immigrants? Really? Ok...

Now if we want to look at this from a Biblical perspective lens then you can see why Christians have their doubt. We cannot deny that we are living in very uncertain times. Wars are everywhere, rumors of wars are everywhere, the world has economic issues everywhere, diseases, I.E pestilence are popping up at an alarming rate. So as Christian, the Biblical bells should be going off in your mind. If not let me refer you to the Prophet Daniel.

At the rate which christians claim the alarm bells are ringing none of us is going to hear the actual war cry of the enemy.

He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time. (*Daniel‬ *7‬:*25‬ NKJV)

is there anyone who speaks more pompous words and try to change times and laws? If your wondering about the "Times" portion of the passage. Islam also has their own calendar which they would like to implement as well.

And i wonder if they are handed over because they looked in the wrong place.

 

[djness]

By the way my entire post here
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/105924-explain-what-wrong-verse.html

is being proven quite well by the over 40 crowd in this thread.

 

[Markum1972]

Islam is the "Mother of all Harlots and the Abomination of the earth" spoken of by John in Revelation. Islam is Satan's final false religion which has dominion over 1/4 of the earth (4th seal). Radical Islam has begun and it's location is the Bear, Lion, Leopard nations spoken of by Daniel and by John in Rev 13. Turkey will join them as will 6-7 other nations. The "King of the North" (AKA the Man of Sin as some call AntiChrist) will lead these forces against their Arab neighbors, against Israel, Egypt and especially Saudi Arabia.

The Saudis will fall and MECCA (the daughter of Babylon) will be destroyed. Yes Radical Islam hates the Harlot and will destroy her. It has started and will not end until Satan's Great Tribulation is over. Untold millions will die not only in the Middle East but all over the globe.

How is that for a wake up call? Good morning everyone.

Yes. More specifically it is Isis; the Egyptian goddess which worshiped the Babylonian Semiras.. She has been called the "mother of all gods [abominations]" and the "courtesan [harlot] of the gods". Islam is the current religion that still practices the worship of a meteorite. Allah came from the Arabian goddess, Allat. Allat was an incarnation of Diana and Astarte; Roman versions of Isis. Though her name has changed since Babylon and Egypt, she is still the same today. You can see Isis worshiped in every empire that has existed since the 1st. When Muhammad conquered Arabia and destroyed all of the idols, the idols of Isis were the only not destroyed and then worshiped to this day by Islam. Islam is the only religion today that still worships the image of the first beast (empire); the black stone.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

By the way my entire post here
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/105924-explain-what-wrong-verse.html

is being proven quite well by the over 40 crowd in this thread.

You probably think that because you don't understand the passage you quoted in that post. It is not, as you supposed, a "tweak."

The translation to the Greek, resulting in the phrase υἱός בֵּית loses nothing from the original Aramaic idiom. It denotes an incredible combination of warm zeal and fervency for a cause, and courage in opposing the enemies of that cause and/or it's progenitor -- in this case all those qualities dedicated to Christ.

It's a real shame you didn't know that, because you just gave the "over 40 crowd" a huge compliment I suspect you didn't intend. Thank you.

 

[Human]

Again all I had was 2 simple questions for Human that again will go unanswered. What do you think will happen when you ask him a more involved question? Well if your question has merit as to the violent reality of islam then you'll be diverted by about a half dozen unrelated questions. When you don't have the answers to said unrelated questions you and or your sources shut down as ignorant or babble. Or he plays the victim because his question went unanswered when all you wanted was a simple answer to a simple question. Typical apologist technique..

Drivel. I haven't been on this website for 24 hours, Ken, that's why I haven't replied. I'm not Muslim, nor am I Christian.

I can't claim to know if the teachings in the Koran are the true words of Allah, because the idea of an omniprescent metaphysical creator itself can't be tested in any tangible and logical way. You'd have to show me undeniable proof a creator God even exists before I could even begin to mount evidence in order to make that claim.