Anyone Waking Up Yet!

[Kencore]

You guys it's time to just call a spade a spade. And that spade is islam. We have the blessings of being warned by by true watchers on the wall like Bill Warner and Walid Shoebat as well as the laboratory that is Western Europe and Austrailia.
France is just latest example and my prayers and condolences are with them, but they had to know something was coming.

First you invite boat loads of islamic immigrants to move in, establish no go zones essentially establishing sharia towns, push out any resemblance of Christianity and allow sharia courts, and are still allowed to vote after aggressively disassimilating. Then these occupants petition the media about how mistreated they are after cartoons offend them. What? All they're trying to do is shut down the free media just like they do in their home Islamic country then they can get away with the real agenda. Propagate islam and destroy Chrstianity And Judeism as it is written in their holy book.

You guys have got to know that this is just their MO. This is what they do. They get in set up shop and want sharia law. And no one can tell me one country, state, city or republic that thrives with Islamic law. You name me one an ill move there. You and I know that a place like that just doesn't exist. So we cannot sit here and just appease this any longer, sure praying for your enemy is fine and dandy but when people, Christian people, are getting shot, stabbed, burned alive raped while saying those prayers, we might want to find another game plan. And I'm not even goin to get into the 20 or so countries going through this.

Guys it it time to flood email servers and put our elected official on notice that if they can't, through political correctness, see what's coming then we need to vote someone in who can. The Lord does say there will be wars and rumors of wars and sometimes Christans got to fight in those wars.

Sorry guys just just had to vent.

 

[gb9]

well I wish the leaders in liberal Europe and here would see that appeasement does not work with radicals. they have been going this route for years with no progress.

 

[kaylagrl]

While I would like to discuss this a thread along these lines was just closed.So I dont know if this type of discussion is allowed here...

 

[GodIsSalvation]

There were three rams living in a certain field.

One day a lion came and said, "let me live in the field for I am an animal like unto you. It is the law of the field that any animal may live here is it not?"

The youngest ram agreed saying "The lion is an animal like any other, he has a right to live in the field according to the law of the field."

The middle said "It is not good to live with a lion, but if it shall follow the law of the field it may live here."

The eldest said "What law of the field? This is not our field, but is the field of the shepherd, and I know the way of the lion that it is not the way of the sheep, but as I cannot prevent you two therefore will I go and shut myself up in the barn and pray for the return of the shepherd."

Then one day the youngest ram mocked the lion saying "oh lion your father was a pussycat!" Therefore the lion tore him to pieces and devoured him and took up his corner of the field.

Then the middle ram went to the shepherd's barn and knocked on it and said "brother the lion has devoured our youngest brother for he mocked him. Is it not the law of the field that we may say what we please? Come now and let us go to war with the lion!"

Then the eldest ram replied, "Go to and fight your own war, but I will wait for the shepherd."

Then the middle ram being full of pride went up against the lion saying, "It is the law of the field that we may say as we please, and if you do not like the law of the field go you and live in another place!"

The lion laughed him to scorn and so the two fought and the lion prevailed and tear the middle ram to pieces and devoured him too.

Then the lion strut around the field and believed himself to be the king of the field and he went to and fro defiling the field.

Then the shepherd came at an hour that no one expected and smote the lion to death. The shepherd saw the field that it was defiled therefore he set it ablaze and threw the lion's carcass into the fire. The shepherd opened the barn and saved the eldest ram and led him to a new field and let the ram rest by still waters, and they lived happily ever after.

 

[Oncefallen]

While I would like to discuss this a thread along these lines was just closed.So I dont know if this type of discussion is allowed here...

It is allowed. Sometimes threads are closed because the discourse has degraded to a point where the likelihood of civility returning to the thread is unlikely. Hopefully this one will remain more civil.

 

[crossnote]

You guys it's time to just call a spade a spade. And that spade is islam. We have the blessings of being warned by by true watchers on the wall like Bill Warner and Walid Shoebat as well as the laboratory that is Western Europe and Austrailia.
France is just latest example and my prayers and condolences are with them, but they had to know something was coming.

First you invite boat loads of islamic immigrants to move in, establish no go zones essentially establishing sharia towns, push out any resemblance of Christianity and allow sharia courts, and are still allowed to vote after aggressively disassimilating. Then these occupants petition the media about how mistreated they are after cartoons offend them. What? All they're trying to do is shut down the free media just like they do in their home Islamic country then they can get away with the real agenda. Propagate islam and destroy Chrstianity And Judeism as it is written in their holy book.

You guys have got to know that this is just their MO. This is what they do. They get in set up shop and want sharia law. And no one can tell me one country, state, city or republic that thrives with Islamic law. You name me one an ill move there. You and I know that a place like that just doesn't exist. So we cannot sit here and just appease this any longer, sure praying for your enemy is fine and dandy but when people, Christian people, are getting shot, stabbed, burned alive raped while saying those prayers, we might want to find another game plan. And I'm not even goin to get into the 20 or so countries going through this.

Guys it it time to flood email servers and put our elected official on notice that if they can't, through political correctness, see what's coming then we need to vote someone in who can. The Lord does say there will be wars and rumors of wars and sometimes Christans got to fight in those wars.

Sorry guys just just had to vent.

I'm not so sure it will be solved politically. When truth is spurned as it has been in Europe (and somewhat in America) error will surely fill the void. It will take something along the lines of a great revival, and I don't mean one in "two weeks under the big top".

 

[ThomistColin]

Honestly, I fear another Crusade. The First was called to defend our brethren in danger and being violated. However, the atrocities committed show all too well that war is evil and through its horrors and pressure will out the evil in men's hearts. I know we cannot allow Islam to spread, but I don't want innocent lives on our hands either. Mark my words, atrocities will be committed by both sides and no amount of righteous indignation will wash it away.

 

[Agricola]

AS I pointed out in the other thread, the only way that you can remove Islamic threat in nations is internment camps or just kill them all, neither will happen, especially as majority of Muslims in Europe were born in their respective nations, it is not like you can deport them, the people who carried out the attack in Paris are French.

99% of all muslims are peaceful and law abiding citizens who may hold different personal views, which is not a crime. I will also point out again that we are in a war, it is on the whole a peaceful war, it is a population war. The birth rate of Muslims is 3.0, White British birth rate is 1.8, which is borderline on the point of no return which will see the population die out eventually.

If we are all still here,in 100 years time as in Christ has not yet returned, then do not be surprised to see an Islamic government running the UK.

Most muslims will condemn any violent acts, they will be all too quick to play the "extremist terrorist card" in order to protect the Islamic community on the whole. Yes 99% of Muslims are allowed to be genuinely disgusted at the Paris murders, but then so would nearly everyone in a nation when reading about war crimes committed by their own army.

The so called terrorists are just soldiers fighting for Islamic world rule, as Muslims can not bring in laws to silence people or to bring about change in how they are treated etc, they will instead rely on the soliders to bring about change through violence and murder.

Many people gave these warnings many decades ago, but they were branded racists and thier ideology was ridiculed and mocked. Oh how France wishes now it had closed its borders to all Muslim immigrants. The horse has long bolted, so closing the stable door now is pointless.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

They just gave the Paris terrorists exactly what they wanted: Martyrdom. Two more reared their heads early this morning, a man and a woman who took hostages at a Parisian deli, and they took the guy out, too. The woman is unaccounted for.

Gunfire, explosions heard at separate hostage locations in France as police move on Islamist suspectshttp://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/0...portedly-steal-car-take-hostage-in-northeast/

DEVELOPING: SKY NEWS REPORTS PARIS MASSACRE SUSPECTS KILLED, HOSTAGE FREED; HOSTAGES HELD IN PARIS DELI FREED, NO WORD ON FATE OF 2 HOSTAGE TAKERS.

I'm going to repeat what I said in that closed thread yesterday:

Maybe this time the French will learn it. The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday morning that the country has paid out $58 million in ransom to terrorist kidnappers since 1980, and have given "aid" to organizations like Free Algeria, Hamas, and to countries such as Iran and Libya in exchange for them not interfering with French foreign or domestic interests. When you feed the tiger, you eventually get bitten, if not eaten.

It literally dumbfounds me that people in governments of any nation, as well as supporters of the leftist agenda worldwide, think these animals -- yeah, I used that word again -- will sit down and "negotiate." They have a single-minded agenda, and one only: The destruction of western culture, religion, and government, with the replacement of them by Islam, Islamic law, and Islamic dictatorship. They will be satisfied with nothing less than the total annihilation of all infidels, and that includes the insipid compromisers who demand we stop killing the terrorists and "talk to them."

We are at war with radical Islam. It matters not one iota that they are a minority in the Muslim world. They still number in the millions, and every single one of them is prepared to take up arms, including suicide bomb jackets, to "kill the infidel." They are fanatics, they are lunatics, and the only way we are going to stop them is to kill them. Even our own military does not grasp this reality. They will bring war to Paris again. They will bring war to London, Dublin, Brasilia, Buenos Aires, Singapore, Sydney, Ottawa, Calgary, Washington, New York, Los Angeles. They will bring war to your doorstep and mine.

There is only one way to stop them. Be prepared to do so.

 

[G4JC]

Well, we could start with not funding them. Tax payers are forking out around $400 million a year to fund Palestine. Ron Paul's son Rand recently introduced a good bill to try: Rand Paul Offers Another Pro-Israel Bill to Cut Palestinian Aid - NationalJournal.com

And a respective petition to try to get it for a vote:
Stand With America's Allies: Add Your Name

 

[Anonimous]

You guys it's time to just call a spade a spade. And that spade is islam. We have the blessings of being warned by by true watchers on the wall like Bill Warner and Walid Shoebat as well as the laboratory that is Western Europe and Austrailia.
France is just latest example and my prayers and condolences are with them, but they had to know something was coming.

First you invite boat loads of islamic immigrants to move in, establish no go zones essentially establishing sharia towns, push out any resemblance of Christianity and allow sharia courts, and are still allowed to vote after aggressively disassimilating. Then these occupants petition the media about how mistreated they are after cartoons offend them. What? All they're trying to do is shut down the free media just like they do in their home Islamic country then they can get away with the real agenda. Propagate islam and destroy Chrstianity And Judeism as it is written in their holy book.

You guys have got to know that this is just their MO. This is what they do. They get in set up shop and want sharia law. And no one can tell me one country, state, city or republic that thrives with Islamic law. You name me one an ill move there. You and I know that a place like that just doesn't exist. So we cannot sit here and just appease this any longer, sure praying for your enemy is fine and dandy but when people, Christian people, are getting shot, stabbed, burned alive raped while saying those prayers, we might want to find another game plan. And I'm not even goin to get into the 20 or so countries going through this.

Guys it it time to flood email servers and put our elected official on notice that if they can't, through political correctness, see what's coming then we need to vote someone in who can. The Lord does say there will be wars and rumors of wars and sometimes Christans got to fight in those wars.

Sorry guys just just had to vent.

and we all know sweet and moral the crusades progressed... the crusades were also about religion and many were killed, muslims and jews, because they wouldn't convert and come under the umbrella of what the Pope called "Christianity".

 

[Anonimous]

Well, we could start with not funding them. Tax payers are forking out around $400 million a year to fund Palestine. Ron Paul's son Rand recently introduced a good bill to try: Rand Paul Offers Another Pro-Israel Bill to Cut Palestinian Aid - NationalJournal.com

And a respective petition to try to get it for a vote:
Stand With America's Allies: Add Your Name

Unfortunately, we really have no control over what our taxes (or extortion money) goes for once the govt takes it.

 

[Anonimous]

AS I pointed out in the other thread, the only way that you can remove Islamic threat in nations is internment camps or just kill them all, neither will happen, especially as majority of Muslims in Europe were born in their respective nations, it is not like you can deport them, the people who carried out the attack in Paris are French.

99% of all muslims are peaceful and law abiding citizens who may hold different personal views, which is not a crime. I will also point out again that we are in a war, it is on the whole a peaceful war, it is a population war. The birth rate of Muslims is 3.0, White British birth rate is 1.8, which is borderline on the point of no return which will see the population die out eventually.

If we are all still here,in 100 years time as in Christ has not yet returned, then do not be surprised to see an Islamic government running the UK.

Most muslims will condemn any violent acts, they will be all too quick to play the "extremist terrorist card" in order to protect the Islamic community on the whole. Yes 99% of Muslims are allowed to be genuinely disgusted at the Paris murders, but then so would nearly everyone in a nation when reading about war crimes committed by their own army.

The so called terrorists are just soldiers fighting for Islamic world rule, as Muslims can not bring in laws to silence people or to bring about change in how they are treated etc, they will instead rely on the soliders to bring about change through violence and murder.

Many people gave these warnings many decades ago, but they were branded racists and thier ideology was ridiculed and mocked. Oh how France wishes now it had closed its borders to all Muslim immigrants. The horse has long bolted, so closing the stable door now is pointless.

The above bolded recommendation is pretty much what Germany's leader thought. He was also concerned about his country and their future as a race. We all know how that turned out. So, no. Putting people into internment camps and then killing them... well, might not seem to be something that Jesus would approve of. What if another future leader decided that Christians were an offense and a threat and decided that it would be better to eliminate them.

Oh wait. Does that sound familiar?

 

[Percepi]

establish no go zones essentially establishing sharia towns, push out any resemblance of Christianity and allow sharia courts

What's it like living in a fictional world? People keep talking about sharia law in America, but it literally doesn't exist anywhere in our government. We don't let people commit crimes under Sharia Law either.

Islamic extremists are a real threat. But how can we acknowledge a real threat if people like you keep distracting us with hog wash?

Furthermore, not all Muslims endorse violence towards non-believers or those who portray images of Muhammad. Instead of encouraging Muslims to be peaceful, you want to eradicate Islam all together. This merely creates more tension between would-be peaceful Muslims and non-Muslims.

The problem are the extremists and those who endorse their actions. The problem is the Islamic State. If you find Muslims who are talking of peace and are criticizing the violence, don't bash them for being Muslims and instead encourage them to continue to speak out for more peace.

 

[kaylagrl]

What's it like living in a fictional world? People keep talking about sharia law in America, but it literally doesn't exist anywhere in our government. We don't let people commit crimes under Sharia Law either.

Islamic extremists are a real threat. But how can we acknowledge a real threat if people like you keep distracting us with hog wash?

Furthermore, not all Muslims endorse violence towards non-believers or those who portray images of Muhammad. Instead of encouraging Muslims to be peaceful, you want to eradicate Islam all together. This merely creates more tension between would-be peaceful Muslims and non-Muslims.

The problem are the extremists and those who endorse their actions. The problem is the Islamic State. If you find Muslims who are talking of peace and are criticizing the violence, don't bash them for being Muslims and instead encourage them to continue to speak out for more peace.

The problem is that those who do speak out are threatened with their lives.Possibly more would wish to speak out but fear keeps them silent.

 

[Kencore]

What's it like living in a fictional world? People keep talking about sharia law in America, but it literally doesn't exist anywhere in our government. We don't let people commit crimes under Sharia Law either.

Islamic extremists are a real threat. But how can we acknowledge a real threat if people like you keep distracting us with hog wash?

Furthermore, not all Muslims endorse violence towards non-believers or those who portray images of Muhammad. Instead of encouraging Muslims to be peaceful, you want to eradicate Islam all together. This merely creates more tension between would-be peaceful Muslims and non-Muslims.

The problem are the extremists and those who endorse their actions. The problem is the Islamic State. If you find Muslims who are talking of peace and are criticizing the violence, don't bash them for being Muslims and instead encourage them to continue to speak out for more peace.

Who said anything about sharia in the US? I'm talking reality here, There are over 100 so called "No Go" zones in France. Meaning that not even the police, who are generally unarmed, go to these areas under threat of violence. And as far a some so called moderate Muslims speaking out against violence, well talk is cheap. If they are truly against the violence why don't they mobilize their armies to combat the problem? Syria, Lebanon, Iran and Egypt all af standing armies, turkey has the 4th largest on the planet. They also have air forces that do nothing for fear that they'll will lose their proxy to do their bidding.
What arabs say is this. What dictates the extremism in a muslim society is what percentage of sharia law they follow. Example Iran and Saudi arabia follow about a 90% sharia system. Jordan about 50%. So the link to extremism is definitely sharia law. If we can abolish that then they can have the rest.

 

[Tintin]

Hmm... Maybe the majority of Muslims in the Western World are fairly peaceful etc. but who then are all the Muslims persecuting (torturing, raping, killing etc) the millions upon millions of Christians in other countries? They're certainly not peaceful! It's not only the extremists that are the problem here.

 

[djness]

Who said anything about sharia in the US? I'm talking reality here, There are over 100 so called "No Go" zones in France. Meaning that not even the police, who are generally unarmed, go to these areas under threat of violence. And as far a some so called moderate Muslims speaking out against violence, well talk is cheap. If they are truly against the violence why don't they mobilize their armies to combat the problem? Syria, Lebanon, Iran and Egypt all af standing armies, turkey has the 4th largest on the planet. They also have air forces that do nothing for fear that they'll will lose their proxy to do their bidding.
What arabs say is this. What dictates the extremism in a muslim society is what percentage of sharia law they follow. Example Iran and Saudi arabia follow about a 90% sharia system. Jordan about 50%. So the link to extremism is definitely sharia law. If we can abolish that then they can have the rest.

You know the unfortunate thing is that muslims kills more muslims than anyone else. Just look at my boko harram news post. They killed 2000 villagers in two days because of being ''infidels''

 

[djness]

Hmm... Maybe the majority of Muslims in the Western World are fairly peaceful etc. but who then are all the Muslims persecuting (torturing, raping, killing etc) the millions upon millions of Christians in other countries? They're certainly not peaceful! It's not only the extremists that are the problem here.

Could you cite a valid source for the millions upon millions?
For the most part they are actually killing other muslims. If you look carefully at the articles coming out in most of these conflicts it's other muslims they are killing in the majority, christians in the minority.

 

[T_Laurich]

Could you cite a valid source for the millions upon millions?
For the most part they are actually killing other muslims. If you look carefully at the articles coming out in most of these conflicts it's other muslims they are killing in the majority, christians in the minority.

Are you asking for a source for today? Then yes they are "peaceful" in the sense that they are mainly killing eachother right now...
If you are talking about in the history? I suggest you research Spain from 500a.d. to 1500a.d.