Music in Church?

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p_rehbein

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SeaBass must have been confusing David with Solomon. 1 Kings 11:1 - But King Solomon loved many foreign women, as well as the daughter of Pharaoh: women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites-- 2 from the nations of whom the Lord had said to the children of Israel, "You shall not intermarry with them, nor they with you. Surely they will turn away your hearts after their gods." Solomon clung to these in love. 3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives turned away his heart.
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GOODNESS! No wonder they were not allowed to divorce their wives...................WHO COULD AFFORD THE ALIMONY? (not to mention the child support checks.................)
 
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True worshippers worship in spirit and truth, Jn 4:23,24, not as they please which is will worship.
Will worship is the folks who brag about how they obey God by their own "will" In context of they don't do this and do that...touch not, taste not ..handle not...basically "will worship" is legalism.
 

p_rehbein

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Boy, if what some are saying here is true, then King David is roasting in hell fer sure..................goodness.......

What lengths some will go to in order to justify their theological teachings.............
 
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Not sure what that youtube link was suppose to be for...............I got a lot of weird stuff that wasn't church music........ :)
It was linked from my phone, so maybe it doesn't translate to "www". I just noticed that it is "m.YouTube".
It was supposed to link to Keith Green - Psalm 23

Or it worked, and you were saying you don't like the ballad-style. Lol.

This is tongue in cheek right? Just to clarify............
Yes. Sorry for the sarcasm.
It doesn't come across properly in text, and usually isn't even productuctive in speech. I should make an effort to avoid using it.
 

p_rehbein

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It was linked from my phone, so maybe it doesn't translate to "www". I just noticed that it is "m.YouTube".
It was supposed to link to Keith Green - Psalm 23

Or it worked, and you were saying you don't like the ballad-style. Lol.


Yes. Sorry for the sarcasm.
It doesn't come across properly in text, and usually isn't even productuctive in speech. I should make an effort to avoid using it.
No, what I got was a whole page of youtube videos and such, and couldn't see any that you may have been referring to. Now that I know the guys name, I'll look to see if I can find him, thanks............ :)
 

p_rehbein

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Just tried again, and no Keith Green Psalm 23.............I'll google it and see if I can get it that way...........
 

p_rehbein

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Yes, I do like it.........BTW............. :)
 

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Boy, if what some are saying here is true, then King David is roasting in hell fer sure..................goodness.......

What lengths some will go to in order to justify their theological teachings.............

oddly enough, that was the accusation at the heart of the last 40+ page thread we had on this topic.
tasted like bad fruit to me =\
 

presidente

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The idea that there shouldn't be musical instruments in church is held by some Protestants that believe in the regulative principle. This was popular in Scotland in the 1800's, where the Campbell's were from, early leaders of the Restoration Movement, the historical root of a movement in the US which calls their churches 'Church of Christ' or 'Christian Church'.
Early Protestants modified Roman Catholic liturgy, trying to find Biblical justification for the components they kept or expanded, and doing away with parts for this they could not find Biblical support. Those who hold to the regulative principle believe they need to do only things the Bible instructs in church meetings.

The irony, here, is that there is actually a passage of scripture that says what to do in church that isn't paid much attention to. I Corinthians 14:26 shows us that 'every one of you' may sing a psalm, have a doctrine, tongue, revelation, interpretation, provided 'all things be done unto edifying.' There are specific instructions for speaking in tongues with interpretation, and specific instructions for prophets and others prophesying in church. Paul calls his instructions 'commandments of the Lord.'

The passage doesn't say have three hymns, prayer, offering, sermon by one preacher, hymns, and prayer. The indication is that there are multiple speakers in one church meeting.

As far as musical instruments go, this particular passage doesn't address it. It seems more to allow for solos than congregational singing. Though that doesn't mean congregational singing is forbidden. It was the practice to sing Psalms after the Lord's Supper 'congregationally', I've read, and the Lord did that with the disciples.
The Old Testament also teaches us that praising God to the sound of musical instruments is good. Revelation shows people with harps and the sound of harps in heaven. So it's not something evil.

It is weird that people will get so legalistic over something like musical instruments in church based on the fact that the instructions about them are in the Old Testament rather than New Testament scripture, if their church doesn't follow the commandments the Lord gave in the New Testament for church meetings. Some of the folks I've encountered who are against musical instruments are dead set allowing having tongues and interpretation or prophecies in church meetings like the Lord commands in I Corinthians 14.
 

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Well we're up to 44 pages this thread so far....

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Anyone's opinion been changed yet? On either side? Didn't think so.
 

p_rehbein

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Well we're up to 44 pages this thread so far....

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Anyone's opinion been changed yet? On either side? Didn't think so.

sounds rather musical...........but quite a long pause there.................
 
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We had a great worshipful weekend. God's people were singing Him praise.....we used instruments :)eek:) and my Lord and Savior Jesus, accepted our pathetic attempt at worshipping Him and drew close to us.
 

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We had a great worshipful weekend. God's people were singing Him praise.....we used instruments :)eek:) and my Lord and Savior Jesus, accepted our pathetic attempt at worshipping Him and drew close to us.
Instruments? Singing Him praise? Please don't tell me that there was hand-clapping too and stomping of the feet. :)
 

p_rehbein

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got no problems with all of that.................BUT THERE BETTER BE NO SNAKES!

I see a snake.......... I'm outta there!
 
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got no problems with all of that.................BUT THERE BETTER BE NO SNAKES!

I see a snake.......... I'm outta there!
Haha...no snakes in my church.....interpretive dance....but no snakes.:p
 

Lynx

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You can handle snakes in your church and that's up to you, I won't say anything about it. But don't expect me to shake your hand if you're holding one. Wet pants and run, maybe. Shake hands, no.

Some friends of mine in Texas take snake killing seriously though. Just not in church. But they play instruments in church there.

Speaking of instruments, we had a piano, electric guitar and drums going this morning. God showed up in a maaaaaarvelous way! Gonna go back tonight and see what happens this time.

Speaking of instruments, I just about have the melody line worked out for a song called "Love the light." Just in case anyone wants to know.

"He loves the light / He's not ashamed / There's nothing to hide / Everything's changed / Voices still call him / Back to the night / But he's standing strong now / He loves, he loves the light"
 

Lynx

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Hey SeaBass, due to a conversation in another thread I got a question for you. What about wind instruments? Cause there's a few people I know, at Sunday lunch time they go down to old Jeb's cookshack for a bowl of his famous chili, and Sunday night all through the service they be farting. Would they get kicked out for playing wind instruments?
 

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Haha...no snakes in my church.....interpretive dance....but no snakes.:p
Top Ten Ways You Know You're in a Bad Church

10. The church bus has gun racks

9. Staff consists of "Senior Pastor, Associate Pastor, and Socio-Pastor"

8. The Bible they use is the "Dr. Seuss Version"

7. ATM in the lobby

6. Services are B.Y.O.S. -- "Bring Your Own Snake"

5. Choir wearing leather robes

4. No cover charge, but communion is a 2 drink minimum

3. Karaoke worship time

2. Ushers ask "Smoking or Non-Smoking?"

1. The only song the church organist knows is "Innagaddadavita"