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The truth is, when a born again Christian does not live as God wants them to they become miserable, they can have no rest, no peace until they evermore bow the knee. They cannot succeed in what they do, and they will simply live an unhappy life until they follow after the Spirit.
This is because the law God requires them to keep is within them. Their conscience will bring them to a very low place indeed until they stop giving into the flesh and follow after the spirit.
You can quote as many literal words of scripture as you wish, that is the truth.
The idea a born a Christian can commit wilful, deliberate sin without conscience, and not do what God wants them to and be happy, or succeed in life cannot happen, for God will not be mocked.
The only way you will be disowned is if you disown Christ, if you are unfaithful, he remains faithful for he cannot disown himself(2Tinm2)
This is because the law God requires them to keep is within them. Their conscience will bring them to a very low place indeed until they stop giving into the flesh and follow after the spirit.
You can quote as many literal words of scripture as you wish, that is the truth.
The idea a born a Christian can commit wilful, deliberate sin without conscience, and not do what God wants them to and be happy, or succeed in life cannot happen, for God will not be mocked.
The only way you will be disowned is if you disown Christ, if you are unfaithful, he remains faithful for he cannot disown himself(2Tinm2)
M
No but I does tell us that the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ...that's how we know God, by His grace and not by the law....and we know that we have the rest of the New Testament to teach us that the we serve God through the Spirit and not by the letter....In faith working by love, not legalism.
M
No you are missing the point. The law does not show us the character of God, Jesus Christ does that through His grace and truth....read it again!
Joh 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Joh 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
This is your personal twist on the entire Word. All of the Book is the faith of Abraham as taught by Jesu Christ, Who is the Word, John 1. He teaches we are not to discount the law, that is obedience. We obey with understanding of the law, and just how wise and good it is. Jesus Christ completes the law for us, but this does not excuse any from obedience. Now if you think yourself, your "love" so perfect as to be always in obedience without study of the law, then you are one of a kind after our Lord, Jesus Christ. All of the first converts to Jesus Chrsit, then called Yeshua HaMashiach, learned the Holy Scriptures from the writings immediately available, that being what you call "The Old Testamen." All who know Jesus Christ see Him throughout the Old Testamen, and they learn the gospel first in it, for they do not have the veil of the law, that is the veil of Moses hiding truth from their eyes. It is apparent many who claim to walk in grace still have this veil over their eyes for they do not see God's wisdoem and goodness in the law. Again, Jesus is the Word, so the law is all from Him, though with the grace He has given us who believe Him, we are not bound by the law, we simply obey it because of the new men we are.
I realize this is not sufficient for ay who love sugar more than the Lord.
I realize this is not sufficient for ay who love sugar more than the Lord.
M
So what point do you think your making? The truth is still the truth...that legalism is not obedience ....That faith and love are!
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Ro 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Ro 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
M
What do you do, just ignore the whole of The New Testament?
Ga 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Ro 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Ga 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Ro 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
K
Lord Jesus and Paul both upheld the 10 commandments, but nowhere in the NT covenant we are under upholds the entire 613 Mosaic laws. The Apostles even discussed this issue in Acts 15, and through the Holy Spirits guidance they only stated a handful;
(Acts 15:20) But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, andfrom fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Now the problem from here is people then debate well what about the 10 commandments. This is summed up easily by walking in the Spirit of love, for love will uphold those commandments. If you love God you would put no idol before Him, if you love others you would not steal, covet, lie to, lie about, murder, or hate them.
The moral law of God is to love, and through that love we are justified through Christ by upholding His commandments, teachings, and standards.
Like Apostle Paul showed in 1 Corinthians 13 that anything without love is worthless and all for nothing.
Yet again, do you uphold/obey all of Christ's literal commands in the Gospels? If you do not, are you justified before God, yes or no.
If you do not obey them all why are you writing what you are? It might sound great, but it is not the reality is it
Fibbing is not upholding all of Christ's commands
If you do not obey them all why are you writing what you are? It might sound great, but it is not the reality is it
Fibbing is not upholding all of Christ's commands
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M
Look at Jesus...and read the New Testament (which is His Word) that tells us the purpose of the legal code of law was to bring us to Jesus...
Heb 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Heb 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
M
God is not changing...if your under the law...your still condemned and still cursed by the law...but if you have died with Christ you are under the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ.
Ga 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Ga 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
K
What is so hard about following the 10 commandments when you have the Holy Spirit guiding your path.
As the bible clearly says all things are possible to those who believe and have God in their life, and Paul reiterates this by saying he can do all things through Christ who strengthens him.
Why do some still want to put limitations on what God through the Holy Spirit can do in our lives.
The Holy Spirit was sent here for a purpose to guide and help us away from a sinful nature and to walk in righteousness and love. Love will uphold those commandments of the Lord, and the Holy Spirit is here to keep you walking as such.