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JesusistheChrist
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JesusistheChrist
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I was being facetious.
IOW, I was suggesting that I had just finished nailing you to a cross due to your inability to answer my question.
Anyhow, in case you're not already aware of the same, the earliest known depiction of a crucifixion was found plastered in a wall in Palatine Hill in Rome and it is dated somewhere between 50 A.D. and 250 A.D. In that anti-Christian depiction, the part man/part ass is depicted as being crucified in the traditional manner applied to Christ's own crucifixion:
Probably the Earliest Surviving Image of the Crucifixion: A Graffito (Circa 50 CE – 250 CE) : HistoryofInformation.com
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DesiredHaven
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Can we tell anything in how Peter was crucified?
Or in the words Christ used to stretch forth his hands?
I never even thought to question how he was laid out on wood
Or in the words Christ used to stretch forth his hands?
I never even thought to question how he was laid out on wood
I never thought much about it, period, till I tried to build one, per circa 33AD, and found it couldn't be done that way.
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DesiredHaven
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We cant build alot of things which those in the days before us could build though.
I mean werent the pyramids a mystery for us how they were built by man back then in those days?
Every built back then was far more superior then anything we build these days.
Or so it seems.
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CRC
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Did Jesus Really Die on a Cross?
THE cross is one of the most recognizable religious symbols known to man. Millions revere it, considering it to be the sacred instrument on which Jesus was put to death. Roman Catholic writer and archaeologist Adolphe-Napoleon Didron stated: “The cross has received a worship similar, if not equal, to that of Christ; this sacred wood is adored almost equally with God Himself.”
Some say that the cross makes them feel closer to God when they pray. Others use it as an amulet, thinking that it protects them from evil. But should Christians use the cross as an object of veneration? Did Jesus really die on a cross? What does the Bible teach on this subject?
Long before the Christian era, crosses were used by the ancient Babylonians as symbols in their worship of the fertility god Tammuz. The use of the cross spread into Egypt, India, Syria, and China. Then, centuries later, the Israelites adulterated their worship of Jehovah with acts of veneration to the false god Tammuz. The Bible refers to this form of worship as a ‘detestable thing.’—Ezekiel 8:13, 14.
The Gospel accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John use the Greek word stau·ros′ when referring to the instrument of execution on which Jesus died. (Matthew 27:40; Mark 15:30; Luke 23:26) The word stau·ros′ refers to an upright pole, stake, or post.
As recorded at Acts 5:30, the apostle Peter used the word xy′lon, meaning “tree,” as a synonym for stau·ros′, denoting, not a two-beamed cross, but an ordinary piece of upright timber or tree. It was not until about 300 years after Jesus’ death that some professed Christians promoted the idea that Jesus was put to death on a two-beamed cross. However, this view was based on tradition and a misuse of the Greek word stau·ros′. It is noteworthy that some ancient drawings depicting Roman executions feature a single wooden pole or tree.
But however one indisputable fact remains. Indeed Jesus did die to redeem mankind from sin and death.
THE cross is one of the most recognizable religious symbols known to man. Millions revere it, considering it to be the sacred instrument on which Jesus was put to death. Roman Catholic writer and archaeologist Adolphe-Napoleon Didron stated: “The cross has received a worship similar, if not equal, to that of Christ; this sacred wood is adored almost equally with God Himself.”
Some say that the cross makes them feel closer to God when they pray. Others use it as an amulet, thinking that it protects them from evil. But should Christians use the cross as an object of veneration? Did Jesus really die on a cross? What does the Bible teach on this subject?
Long before the Christian era, crosses were used by the ancient Babylonians as symbols in their worship of the fertility god Tammuz. The use of the cross spread into Egypt, India, Syria, and China. Then, centuries later, the Israelites adulterated their worship of Jehovah with acts of veneration to the false god Tammuz. The Bible refers to this form of worship as a ‘detestable thing.’—Ezekiel 8:13, 14.
The Gospel accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John use the Greek word stau·ros′ when referring to the instrument of execution on which Jesus died. (Matthew 27:40; Mark 15:30; Luke 23:26) The word stau·ros′ refers to an upright pole, stake, or post.
As recorded at Acts 5:30, the apostle Peter used the word xy′lon, meaning “tree,” as a synonym for stau·ros′, denoting, not a two-beamed cross, but an ordinary piece of upright timber or tree. It was not until about 300 years after Jesus’ death that some professed Christians promoted the idea that Jesus was put to death on a two-beamed cross. However, this view was based on tradition and a misuse of the Greek word stau·ros′. It is noteworthy that some ancient drawings depicting Roman executions feature a single wooden pole or tree.
But however one indisputable fact remains. Indeed Jesus did die to redeem mankind from sin and death.
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DesiredHaven
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You know what I mean there were many documentaries on what a mystery they were to us in this age of technology.
All you have to do is google "mystery of pyramids construction" and you can see it was a common one.
They are still standing, they knew how to build things we cant build anything
Here's a photo of a few of the pyramids today. Would you live in a building that looked like that?
http://traveltips.usatoday.com/DM-R...818920_XS.jpg?w=560&h=560&keep_ratio=1&webp=1
http://traveltips.usatoday.com/DM-R...818920_XS.jpg?w=560&h=560&keep_ratio=1&webp=1
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kennethcadwell
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Yes History and Discovery channels are full of them, and you can almost find a program about these things just about everyday on them. I have even seen some newer ones just made in the last year or two still trying to stick to the aliens theory and such. Even though other well done documentaries have shown that man was capable of building those things, and sorry to say this to our resident carpenter; But it has been commonly been shown and proven carpenters back in those days were a lot better carpenters we have now days. They had to be good to excellent with their hands because that is all they had besides the primitive tools. People forget that we in now day culture have gotten laxidazy do to our now day tools. Most carpenters now days are only about half as strong as they were back then.
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DesiredHaven
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Its still standing from how many thousands of years?
Thats just a few of them and you know it.
They just built things that still stand they didnt need Home depot or Lowes for crucial renovations to keep them there
Thats just a few of them and you know it.
They just built things that still stand they didnt need Home depot or Lowes for crucial renovations to keep them there
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DesiredHaven
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Yeah I agree, they could just build better, blows my mind what people could do a few hundred years ago, but the pyramids are quite a wonder given they stand longer then anything built recently.
They were just amazing builders, and to buy that kind of craftmanship today would probably bankrupt your average millionaire now lol
Lego's are more out cup of tea now lol (temporary teetering plastics) thats all it reminds me of
If you are willing to spend the money it would take today, and wait the hundreds of years some of those things took to build, you too could have a home with sixty foot thick walls. We have what we have today because we will not spend what it would cost to duplicate the old stuff....... not because the very same things cannot be built today.