Legalism empowers DEMONS in your life!

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ChristInUs

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We need the Cross. For salvation and sanctification. Our deeds are filthy rags. Lets listen to Paul if any man should boast, let Him boast in Christ. Meaning faith in the work of the Cross.
 
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WheresEnoch

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Mitspa said:
Nothing profits but faith working by love...if you will notice all these things are based upon the law of faith and love...all from the Spirit of God..its called the simplicity of Christ :)
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You know that we have to do those things right?
We are called to become exactly like Christ.
We are supposed to walk exactly how He walked.
We are supposed to literally become love through the power of the Holy Spirit and submitting our own fleshly desires and lusts.
If we continue in sin, the sacrifice of Christ will not save us from destruction
 
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Mitspa

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Another vague answer, you would have made a good politician.

YES OR NO?

Do you believe Obedience to GOD's Old Testament LAW to manifest your LOVE FOR HIM, is still LEGALISM?

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I still want to know what kind of CHURCH denomination you attend? This is the THIRD TIME I have asked. PLEASE include their Doctrinal Statement of Faith.
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No a believer is not under the law of Moses...let me say that in absolute and clear terms! We are under the law of Christ to love..and in love all that the law demanded is fulfilled.
 
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Laodicea

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Mitspa said:
Ok we uphold the law and its true standard (every jot and tittle) for its purpose...read the context....

Ro 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
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Matthew 5:17 KJV
(17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


Jesus is a perfect example of the law that was written on stone. His life shows what it is to keep the law as God intends.
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
You know that we have to do those things right?
We are called to become exactly like Christ.
We are supposed to walk exactly how He walked.
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No problem if you walk in faith and love...they are part of the divine nature of God that works in those who walk in the Spirit. They are fruits of the spirit.
 
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Mitspa

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Laodicea said:
Matthew 5:17 KJV
(17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


Jesus is a perfect example of the law that was written on stone. His life shows what it is to keep the law as God intends.
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Yes He came to fulfill! every jot and tittle!

Ro 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
 
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ChristInUs

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It is not by might, nor by power, but My Spirit saith the Lord. If it is not by Him, then it is nothing. I know that this is strong and hurts the flesh and angers people, but it is what God said. It must be the Holy Spirit working in you and through you and not your own works least any man should boast. No man can point the finger at God and say I did this, the only thing a man can do is place his faith in the work of the cross.
 
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WheresEnoch

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Mitspa said:
No problem if you walk in faith and love...they are part of the divine nature of God that works in those who walk in the Spirit. They are fruits of the spirit.
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I agree with you.
Not a big deal if we are born again.
But you know you can't keep sinning right?
Not even in your thoughts?
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
I agree with you.
Not a big deal if we are born again.
But you know you can't keep sinning right?
Not even in your thoughts?
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Who said anything about sinning? your the only one I have seen sin today :(

Why does faith and love sound like sin to you?
 
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WheresEnoch

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Mitspa said:
Who said anything about sinning? your the only one I have seen sin today :(

Why does faith and love sound like sin to you?
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Mitspa, do you understand that you can't continue in sin and still be saved?
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
Mitspa, do you understand that you can't keep sinning and still be saved?
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Like I said...your the only person I have seen sin today...do you know your not supposed to sin? As far as what you think unsaves a believer ...I doubt you really understand that?
 
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Mitspa said:
Yes He came to fulfill! every jot and tittle!

Ro 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
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Christ is the end of the law does not mean Christ ended the law. It means Christ is the goal of the law.

Revelation 2:26 KJV
(26) And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:


Does this text mean after He comes we no longer have to keep His works?
 
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WheresEnoch

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Mitspa said:
Like I said...your the only person I have seen sin today...do you know your not supposed to sin? As far as what you think unsaves a believer ...I doubt you really understand that?
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I understand perfectly and I did not bear false witness.
Are you just on this website to mess with people?

Nobody can continue to live in rebellion to God and be saved
 
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Mitspa

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Laodicea said:
Christ is the end of the law does not mean Christ ended the law. It means Christ is the goal of the law.

Revelation 2:26 KJV
(26) And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:


Does this text mean after He comes we no longer have to keep His works?
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Nope it means exactly what it says...sorry

2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

2Co 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

Ro 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
I understand perfectly and I did not bear false witness.
Are you just on this website to mess with people?

Nobody can continue to live in rebellion to God and be saved
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Any honest person can see that you did! But I forgive you :)

Just try to be more godly from now on...ok?
 
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WheresEnoch said:
You know that we have to do those things right?
We are called to become exactly like Christ.
We are supposed to walk exactly how He walked.
We are supposed to literally become love through the power of the Holy Spirit and submitting our own fleshly desires and lusts.
If we continue in sin, the sacrifice of Christ will not save us from destruction
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? I dont think you get it friend. Yes we are to strive to be perfect just as he was even though we never will be but his grace is more than sufficent. look at his grace as the ocean look how wide vast and deep it is not think of every drop in that ocean as how many times he forgives our mistakes. True grace isnt a ticket to do as we please but God knows our hearts
 
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ChristInUs

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Okay lets deal with sin as it is a law. A Christian that loves God can be bound by sin. I present the case of Paul. For that which I will to do I do not and that which I will not to do that I do. He was bound by sin, because his faith was in the law. He even states that he was captive. Why, because anytime our faith is shifted from the cross to what we do, the sin nature revives. Then the only thing we can do is place our faith back in the cross and wait for deliverance. Believe me I know what I'm talking about. Study Romans with intent. If you are suffering from sin and don't want to do it but can't help yourself. Romans 7 will give insight. You can;t fast your way out nor work your way out. You must come to God and say I can't but you can by the means of the cross and deliverance will come.
 
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WheresEnoch

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Mitspa said:
Any honest person can see that you did! But I forgive you :)
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Look , you started a thread that is about people who try to obey Christ's commandments and teach others to do the same are self-righteous. Then I said this:

It relates to the topic of your thread because you are saying that people who try to fulfill the great commission are self-righteous.
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If I misunderstood you, it is only because you are messing with everyone and running everyone around in circles like it's funny or something. You do not give a single straight answer about anything
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
Look , you started a thread that is about people who try to obey Christ's commandments and teach others to do the same are self-righteous. Then I said this:



If I misunderstood you, it is only because you are messing with everyone and running everyone around in circles like it's funny or something. You do not give a single straight answer about anything
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I accept your apology ..just try to be more careful if you don't care :)
 
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ChristInUs said:
Okay lets deal with sin as it is a law. A Christian that loves God can be bound by sin. I present the case of Paul. For that which I will to do I do not and that which I will not to do that I do. He was bound by sin, because his faith was in the law. He even states that he was captive. Why, because anytime our faith is shifted from the cross to what we do, the sin nature revives. Then the only thing we can do is place our faith back in the cross and wait for deliverance. Believe me I know what I'm talking about. Study Romans with intent. If you are suffering from sin and don't want to do it but can't help yourself. Romans 7 will give insight. You can;t fast your way out nor work your way out. You must come to God and say I can't but you can by the means of the cross and deliverance will come.
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im going to give about ten thousand amens to that.Bravo my friend bravo
 
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