I am both a Christian and a Muslim.

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a true Muslim follower would know who Mohammed is.. he is a false Muslim god. His way will earn you a ticket to hell if you continue to follow his pagan false god ways.
I thought I'm the one who live in where muhammed was born ! the holy place for muhammed ! but from what you are writing it seems you know more than I do ! can you show me from Qurran the book I memorized where muhammed claim he is God ?
 

blue_ladybug

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I thought I'm the one who live in where muhammed was born ! the holy place for muhammed ! but from what you are writing it seems you know more than I do ! can you show me from Qurran the book I memorized where muhammed claim he is God ?
I don't read the quran.. I read the bible..inspired word of God.. I never said Mohammed claimed to be God..but since Islam is a false religion, so Mohammed is a false idol.
 
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Tintin

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Good grief, dude! Mohammed has everything to do with Islam. And yes, while Muslims say that they don't worship him, their actions often seem to suggest otherwise.
 

Reborn

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Good grief, dude! Mohammed has everything to do with Islam. And yes, while Muslims say that they don't worship him, their actions often seem to suggest otherwise.

True.

The ones who are considered 'extreme'....are technically the ones who are following the Quran, like they are suppose to.

Just sayin.
 
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I don't read the quran.. I read the bible..inspired word of God.. I never said Mohammed claimed to be God..but since Islam is a false religion, so Mohammed is a false idol.
I'll presume that you dont know what you are writing , you deny something you wrote 2 times , its there just re-read what u wrote !.
 
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Good grief, dude! Mohammed has everything to do with Islam. And yes, while Muslims say that they don't worship him, their actions often seem to suggest otherwise.
you dont know my language better than me ! you have no knowledge of what Islam means ,
islam means submission to God in ARABIC and muhmmed didnt clame to be the 1st muslim , Qurran stated that Abram was the 1st muslim ie: submitted to God . surah الأنعام/ 162، 163
show me where
the actions of followers of muhammed suggest that they worship him ?!

 
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JustAnotherUser

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Good grief, dude! Mohammed has everything to do with Islam. And yes, while Muslims say that they don't worship him, their actions often seem to suggest otherwise.
You got that right. I mean, they do behead people for showing disrespect by having pictures of Muhammad in any type of fashion. ;)
 

1joseph

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I have no idea why people mix muhammed with islam ? I SAID MUSLIM not muhammed ! where did u come up with this too MR ! , you have no understanding of what muslim means , next time when you dont have enough knowledge about something dont write about it ! and dont put yourself as judge as well , at least follow the bible you believe in .
"Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.
Matthew 7:1
A Muslim follows the religion of Islam and believes Jesus was a profit. See below.

From Wikipedia:

A Muslim, sometimes spelled Moslem, relates to a person who follows the religion of Islam, a monotheistic Abrahamic religion based on the Quran. Muslims consider the Quran to be the verbatim word of God as revealed to the Islamic prophet Muhammad. They also follow the teachings and practices of Muhammad as recorded in traditional accounts called hadith. "Muslim" is an Arabic word meaning "one who submits (to God)". A female Muslim is sometimes called a "Muslimah". There are customs holding that a man and woman or teenager and adolescent above the age of fifteen of a lunar or solar calender who possesses the faculties of rationality, logic and/or sanity, but misses numerous successive Jumu'ahs without a valid excuse, no longer qualifies as a Muslim.
Most Muslims will accept anyone who has publicly pronounced the declaration of faith as a Muslim. The shahadah states:
There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God.
Islamic beliefs commonly held by Muslims include: that God (Arabic: الله‎ Allāh) is eternal, transcendent and absolutely one (monotheism); that God is incomparable, self-sustaining and neither begets nor was begotten; that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that has been revealed before through many prophets including Abraham, Moses, Ishmael and Jesus;that these previous messages and revelations have been partially changed or corrupted over time and that the Qur'an is the final unaltered revelation from God (The Final Testament).
 
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Tintin

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you dont know my language better than me ! you have no knowledge of what Islam means ,
islam means submission to God in ARABIC and muhmmed didnt clame to be the 1st muslim , Qurran stated that Abram was the 1st muslim ie: submitted to God . surah الأنعام/ 162، 163
show me where
the actions of followers of muhammed suggest that they worship him ?!

I know what Islam means, I'm not stupid. But Muslims don't submit to the one true God, instead they submit to the god of this world. I know Muhammad was considered the last prophet, but that doesn't mean he was a true prophet. Nor does it mean he didn't backdate his writings to give them some spiritual credence based in Jewish history. Either he made up the writings on his own or he was visited by demonic spirits. Or both. False prophets abound.
 

damombomb

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People a Muslim can be a believer in Jesus Christ. The Lord is doing a mighty work there. Please edify and not tear down.
 
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A Muslim follows the religion of Islam and believes Jesus was a profit. See below.

From Wikipedia:

A Muslim, sometimes spelled Moslem,relates to a person who follows the religion of Islam, a monotheisticAbrahamic religion based on the Quran. Muslims consider the Quran to be the verbatim word of God as revealed to the Islamic prophetMuhammad. They also follow the teachings and practices of Muhammad as recorded in traditional accounts called hadith. "Muslim" is an Arabic word meaning "one who submits (to God)". A female Muslim is sometimes called a "Muslimah". There are customs holding that a man and woman or teenager and adolescent above the age of fifteen of a lunar or solar calender who possesses the faculties of rationality, logic and/or sanity, but misses numerous successive Jumu'ahs without a valid excuse, no longer qualifies as a Muslim.
Most Muslims will accept anyone who has publicly pronounced the declaration of faith as a Muslim. The shahadah states:
There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God.
Islamic beliefs commonly held by Muslims include: that God (Arabic: الله‎ Allāh) is eternal, transcendent and absolutely one (monotheism); that God is incomparable, self-sustaining and neither begets nor was begotten; that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that has been revealed before through many prophets including Abraham, Moses, Ishmael and Jesus;that these previous messages and revelations have been partially changed or corrupted over time and that the Qur'an is the final unaltered revelation from God (The Final Testament).
since when wikipedia is your trusted source of information ?!
I'm talking about language and culture you will never understand !!
see from Qurran :
Say: "Verily, my Lord hath guided me to a way that is straight,- a religion of right,- the path (trod) by Abraham the true in Faith, and he (certainly) joined not gods with Allah." surah 6:161
Abraham was the 1st muslim
and when you read what does it muslim means in arabic dictionaries it define Islam as surrender -submissive , and defined by islamic books as a person who surrender to God
sources :
http://quran.com/6
الباحث العربي: قاموس عربي عربي
 
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Tintin

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People a Muslim can be a believer in Jesus Christ. The Lord is doing a mighty work there. Please edify and not tear down.
Yes, but being a Muslim and becoming a believer in Christ (and in the process, turning from Islam) is very different to what this member is promoting.
 

1joseph

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People a Muslim can be a believer in Jesus Christ. The Lord is doing a mighty work there. Please edify and not tear down.
Woe unto me or anyone who goes against the Holy Spirit! With God all things are possible.

God knows AziziLoveChrist's heart, as He does mine. God's will be done. Hallelujah!
 

Reborn

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People a Muslim can be a believer in Jesus Christ. The Lord is doing a mighty work there. Please edify and not tear down.
since when wikipedia is your trusted source of information ?!
I'm talking about language and culture you will never understand !!
see from Qurran :
Say: "Verily, my Lord hath guided me to a way that is straight,- a religion of right,- the path (trod) by Abraham the true in Faith, and he (certainly) joined not gods with Allah." surah 6:161
Abraham was the 1st muslim
and when you read what does it muslim means in arabic dictionaries it define Islam as surrender -submissive , and defined by islamic books as a person who surrender to God
sources :
http://quran.com/6
الباحث العربي: قاموس عربي عربي

See this???

Be my guest damombomb......be my guest.
 

damombomb

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Yes, but being a Muslim and becoming a believer in Christ (and in the process, turning from Islam) is very different to what this member is promoting.
I am sure if they believe in Christ, they do not support Islam. We are not to judge. You can be a Muslim and believe in Christ
as your savior. I have talked to a few that have. I would love to talk to more.
 
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I know what Islam means, I'm not stupid. But Muslims don't submit to the one true God, instead they submit to the god of this world. I know Muhammad was considered the last prophet, but that doesn't mean he was a true prophet. Nor does it mean he didn't backdate his writings to give them some spiritual credence based in Jewish history. Either he made up the writings on his own or he was visited by demonic spirits. Or both. False prophets abound.
you clearly dont know a thing about that !
here another thing to be informed with , dont be arrogant , the bible stated about humiliation MR . LEARN
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him
http://www.quran.com/29/46
 

1joseph

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since when wikipedia is your trusted source of information ?!
I'm talking about language and culture you will never understand !!
see from Qurran :
Say: "Verily, my Lord hath guided me to a way that is straight,- a religion of right,- the path (trod) by Abraham the true in Faith, and he (certainly) joined not gods with Allah." surah 6:161
Abraham was the 1st muslim
and when you read what does it muslim means in arabic dictionaries it define Islam as surrender -submissive , and defined by islamic books as a person who surrender to God
sources :
http://quran.com/6
الباحث العربي: قاموس عربي عربي
That is good. And you came to know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?