Millions of years ago ! ?

[wincam]

There are some things that must also be taken into account here also and that is the fact that there are a number of short periods of time that we cannot pin down to specifics but they do not represent that many years at any point. It must also be remembered that some of the reigns of the king were co-reigns. It is impossible to determine with any degree of accuracy by I think the time frame can be determined within a plus or minus of 500 years, maybe less.

better to be out by a few hundred or thousands of years than millions or billions - wincam

 

[ivanc0]

you mean, especially if it was only a local flood and each of the forty days of rain were really thousands of years - wincam

They talking about water heavy enough to distort earth surface and distort carbon 14 readings., water to cover thousands of meters, the top of Everest is about 8 km high 1m about 3 foot.

Actually Noa flood, was the end of the last ice age, and flooded km of land close to the ocean, this land is still flooded today

 

[Tintin]

*headdesks* So much stupid.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

They talking about water heavy enough to distort earth surface and distort carbon 14 readings., water to cover thousands of meters, the top of Everest is about 8 km high 1m about 3 foot.

Actually Noa flood, was the end of the last ice age, and flooded km of land close to the ocean, this land is still flooded today

There are sea shells on Mount Everest.

 

[ivanc0]

There are sea shells on Mount Everest.

Why? because mount Everest was under water for millions of years, not 1 year, it raised due to planet tectonics. in millions of years!.
Africa and south america moved away cm by cm in millions of years.

you not only against evolutionist, but geologists, volcanologist, sismologists.... etc etc.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Why? because mount Everest was under water for millions of years, not 1 year, it raised due to planet tectonics. in millions of years!.
Africa and south america moved away cm by cm in millions of years.

you not only against evolutionist, but geologists, volcanologist, sismologists.... etc etc.

Nay, the waters had to have rose up over it to leave the cap of sedimentary rock.

 

[ivanc0]

Nay, the waters had to have rose up over it to leave the cap of sedimentary rock.

It will not have left a sedimentary layer, i will have eroded it, is a mountain!, you forgot sir ISAAC Newton’s Gravity.?

 

[GodIsSalvation]

It will not have left a sedimentary layer, i will have eroded it, is a mountain!, you forgot sir ISAAC Newton’s Gravity.?

I'm not convinced gravity exists.

Sedimentary rock is left behind by water. Hence, sediment. If Mount Everest rose gradually over millions of years though, indeed the sediment layer at the top of today's mount everest ought to have eroded away long ago. Good proof for how millions of years is not even possible.

 

[ivanc0]

the top is protected by ice.!

 

[GodIsSalvation]

the top is protected by ice.!

Ice is one of the biggest causes of erosion. Again this just testifies to the fact that millions of years, or even hundreds of thousands, is not possible.

 

[Tintin]

Why? because mount Everest was under water for millions of years, not 1 year, it raised due to planet tectonics. in millions of years!.
Africa and south america moved away cm by cm in millions of years.

you not only against evolutionist, but geologists, volcanologist, seismologists.... etc etc.

The highest mountains were formed sometime during the Great Flood, around 4,300 years ago, when the (possibly) one continent broke apart. Some continents slammed into each other forming these mountains. Great violence was done to the earth during Noah's Flood.

 

[SarahM777]

They talking about water heavy enough to distort earth surface and distort carbon 14 readings., water to cover thousands of meters, the top of Everest is about 8 km high 1m about 3 foot.

Actually Noa flood, was the end of the last ice age, and flooded km of land close to the ocean, this land is still flooded today

There is more than enough water on the earth to have covered the entire earth.

If the world were to become totally flat and the oceans distributed themselves evenly over the earth's surface, the water would be approximately 2 miles deep at every point.

Earth Facts - PlanetFacts.net

 

[twotwo]

I'm not convinced gravity exists..

Houston we have a problem!

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Houston we have a problem!

Lol yea lots of problems with NASA and their propaganda.

'Moon rock' in museum is just petrified wood - Technology & science - Space | NBC News

Another topic for another day though I suppose.

 

[valiant]

They talking about water heavy enough to distort earth surface and distort carbon 14 readings., water to cover thousands of meters, the top of Everest is about 8 km high 1m about 3 foot.

the only question is, was it that high in Noah's day?

Actually Noa flood, was the end of the last ice age, and flooded km of land close to the ocean, this land is still flooded today

Did God tell you that? Or do you have inside sources?

 

[oldhermit]

So where those billions of tons of water came from, coulds? miracle?, and where that water went after the flood?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]By oldhermmit

In Gen 1 we are told that the earth was initially created in deluge but just how much water could have covered the earth?[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
A. Separating the waters. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

1. Expanse = distance.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
2. How much water covered the earth? 5.5 miles in depth minimum. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
3. How much water was taken into the troposphere? At least 4 miles in depth. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
4. How much water still covered the earth? Approx. 1.5 miles in depth.

B. Considered factors are the amount of water needed to cover Mt. Everest at 29,029 feet + 22 feet to satisfy the draft of the ark = 5.5 miles of standing water. This is not that inconceivable. Mariana's Trench at its deepest known point is 36,200 feet or 6.8 miles. The expanse of verse six is the formation of an atmosphere.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
In chapter seven we find the account of the flood.

A. Flood dynamics, 11-24. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

1. Eruption of ALL subterranean chambers, “The fountains of the deep burst open,” 11. This is total and prolonged geological upheaval and cannot simply be reconciled with any “local flood” theories confined to the Near East. Just from a scientific point of view what would be taking place on the earth if and event such as this occurred? He are some of the effects of such a catastrophic activity:[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

a. Dramatically and immediate enlarged ocean basins. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
b. Rapid elevation of the continents, Psalms 104:4-5.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
c. Massive global volcanic and seismic activity – earthquakes and tsunamis.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
d. Oceans of rolling mud swallowing everything in its path. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
All of this happening in a matter of days.

B. Depth of the flood waters – 29,029' + 22' to allow for the draft of the ark. This is a water depth of 5.5 miles needed to cover the highest mountain peaks if Mt. Everest is used as the standard. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
C. The 'prevailing” of the waters – The waters continued to rise for 150 days, 18-24. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

1. The rain stopped after 40 days. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
2. The fountains of the deep continued to rise for an additional 110 days or five months, 8:2.

After all the activity ends:
A. A wind to facilitate the evaporation process – God uses the natural process of time and the elements – wind and heat.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

B. The time sequence[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

1. For five months – 150 days the waters continued to rise. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
2. After God brings the wind, it takes two months for the water to subside enough for the ark to touch ground.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
3. After another two months and thirteen days, the mountain tops become visible. This probably represents a minimum water loss of 22'. This is now a total of nine months and thirteen days.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
4. After forty more days, Noah opens the window of the ark. Sends out both the raven and the dove. Only the dove returns. Why. The raven, being a carnivore and a scavenger, is able to find both land and food. There are about thirty days of time here that are unaccounted for. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
5. After seven more days he sends out the dove the second time and the dove returns.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
6. After another seven days he sends the dove out for the third time and the dove does not return. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
7. Noah remains in the ark for another ten days.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
8. Total amount of time on the ark – twelve months, and ten days.[/FONT]

 

[ivanc0]

The highest mountains were formed sometime during the Great Flood, around 4,300 years ago, when the (possibly) one continent broke apart. Some continents slammed into each other forming these mountains. Great violence was done to the earth during Noah's Flood.

more speculation, even 8kms is just a scar in earth dim mentions, and water put pressure evenly. keep reading you bible, I think you are good at it. but you need to change your name from tintin to tontin.

 

[ivanc0]

There is more than enough water on the earth to have covered the entire earth.

If the world were to become totally flat and the oceans distributed themselves evenly over the earth's surface, the water would be approximately 2 miles deep at every point.

Earth Facts - PlanetFacts.net

What an answer, if earth is totally and absolutely flat very little water will be needed. but you are out of your mind, before saying stupidity like that go to research the other planets, maybe they are flat like you say, understanding flat means absolutely perfectly spherical

 

[SarahM777]

Ah, you're no different from the flat earthers of the past who would have likely cracked jokes about how we would have fallen off of a round earth. You use humor to jab at the obvious flaws with evolution, failing to realize that those very flaws you mock don't actually represent evolution! For example, the image you posted mocks the idea that we evolved from modern ape. Jokes on you, evolution never claimed we evolved from modern ape.



I love when creationists attack outdated information. Evolution does not assume species evolved at a consistent, gradual, rate. There are examples of what appears to be punctuated equilibrium.

Punctuated equilibrium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is still some debate involving punctuated equilibrium, but the fact remains that evolution doesn't make assumptions.

Sure it does. Evolution ASSUMES that reproduction of an organism went from binary fission to cellular fusion and DID happen. Evolution ASSUMES that these types of changes DID occur.

Any where on that tree has serious problems with the process of REPRODUCTION. The tree may have been changed from 40 years ago but the SAME PROBLEMS STILL EXIST. You still have the problem of EXTERNAL EGG laying like this

to this type of egg

Reptile eggs are encased in shell unlike fish eggs

And birds eggs are a hard calcium carbonate shell


or to this little guy that reproduces via life birth

No where has evolution PROVEN that theses thing DID happen it is ASSUMED that it did happen. Evolution is based on a lot of nonproven ASSUMPTIONS.

 

[SarahM777]

What an answer, if earth is totally and absolutely flat very little water will be needed. but you are out of your mind, before saying stupidity like that go to research the other planets, maybe they are flat like you say, understanding flat means absolutely perfectly spherical

Where did I say that the earth was ever PERFECTLY flat. My point was and is that is MORE THEN ENOUGH water to flood the entire earth DEEPLY. Lower the mountain ranges and raise the ocean trenches enough and the entire earth would be flooded and the earth would NOT EVEN have to be perfectly flat.