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I am what I like to call a God fearing stoner. I know people who smoke weed that are atheists, I know people that smoke that are christians. I myself smoke weed and am a christian. I always wondered what God's view on it would be. I've always thought that he put it here, it has medical uses, so therefore it was intended to be used. And then I like to think about Bob Marley, who I can almost guarantee is sitting up in Heaven with God, who smoked and always proclaimed his love for God. Always gave God credit for the things that he did. I am not looking for someone to tell me I shouldn't do it because it's illegal, I am simply looking for what God's view on it is. It has healing qualities and nobody has ever died from it, so it doesn't harm my body. It's not an addiction, and I didn't start doing it because I wanted to be cool. I started doing it because I figured there wasn't any point in speaking against something I had not already tried myself, when I tried it, I liked it. I continued, and I've had some pretty fun times with my friends too. So what is God's view on it?
 
Ephesians 5:18 - Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit. Nothing there about marijuana, so you might be alright. LOL! Seriously though, it's about what is controlling us and what kind of behavior does it lead to? Don't end up like this guy from the "Because I Got High" song.

I was gonna clean my room until I got high
I was gonna get up and find the broom but then I got high
my room is still messed up and I know why - cause I got high

I was gonna go to class before I got high
I coulda cheated and I coulda passed but I got high
I am taking it next semester and I know why - cause I got high

I was gonna go to work but then I got high
I just got a new promotion but I got high
now I'm selling dope and I know why - cause I got high

I was gonna go to court before I got high
I was gonna pay my child support but then I got high
they took my whole paycheck and I know why - cause I got high

I wasn't gonna run from the cops but I was high
I was gonna pull right over and stop but I was high
Now I am a paraplegic and I know why - because I got high
 
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I used to smoke quite a bit before I born again. Let me ask you, which shady dealer do you go to get your gear? When supply runs dry and can't get any, how do you feel? How much does the chase suck when you can't get any? What happens when the cops bust you out? You going to proclaim Jesus as your saviour? Tell me, what kind of witness is that?
You live in a life of bondage and you don't even realise it, you are deceiving yourself and make up reasons to justify it. There are also spiritual consequences, you open up the doors of your mind to the demonic realm when you smoke, you might not see it now but give it a few years, if that.
I'm not saying any of this to condemn you or to put you down, just speaking plainly as you have with us. I pray that someday you will look back on the vileness of it and thank God for freeing you from it by His awesomeness.

And another thing, you don't want us to not touch it being illegal, yeah right!
Romans 13 1-2
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
 
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Seriously, is it my imagination or are we getting similar posts every day or two written in the same format: long paragraphs with near perfect grammar, little to no typos, an in-depth confession of some controversial situation summed up with the question: "What does God think?" (Or, "What do you people think?")

They never have a pic or an icon.
Their thread titles are always dramatic or sensational
They always use the term "looking for a view" (either God's point of view or other users)
They seldom respond except for a few quick additional comments, and then they disappear.

It makes me think it's the same person with different user names or it's a whole team of geeks who enjoy mocking Christians.
 
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...when I tried it, I liked it. I continued,...

Sounds to me like you're addicted.

And why, as a Christian, would you want it? Worshiping God is the greatest high anyone can achieve, so why do it artificially with drugs?

Also, anything one smokes is bad for your lungs. Period. May not necessarily kill you, but it's not helping you, I can assure you.
 
I would like to say for the record smoking weed is in no way an addiction. Drinking boss is and most persription drugs for pain ,sleep, and other problems are very addictive. Pot is just as good a treatment for most of those problems. Better in fact!!! Because it's not addictive. I believe in God and I listen to God. God is love and truth. Don't take my word for any of this. Find out for yourself. Jesus loves the truth too so should you!!!
 
There is no such thing as a "God-fearing stoner." If you smoke marijuana, you are not a christian because a TRUE christian would not smoke pot. You CAN be God-fearing, but you cannot be a stoner AND be God-fearing simultaneously. I'm sorry but I find the OP's post absolutely ridiculous. As tourist said, get GOD'S view on what he thinks of you smokin' mary jane.
 
There is no such thing as a "God-fearing stoner." If you smoke marijuana, you are not a christian because a TRUE christian would not smoke pot. You CAN be God-fearing, but you cannot be a stoner AND be God-fearing simultaneously. I'm sorry but I find the OP's post absolutely ridiculous. As tourist said, get GOD'S view on what he thinks of you smokin' mary jane.
I originally thought the OP was a joke but I can see this is getting serious! Maybe the marijuana song that I've heard teenagers singing and laughing to that I quoted in post #3 was inappropriate. My bad. :o
 
There is no such thing as a "God-fearing stoner." If you smoke marijuana, you are not a christian because a TRUE christian would not smoke pot. You CAN be God-fearing, but you cannot be a stoner AND be God-fearing simultaneously. I'm sorry but I find the OP's post absolutely ridiculous. As tourist said, get GOD'S view on what he thinks of you smokin' mary jane.

also, you say you have some pretty fun times with your friends. That's because you're high and your awareness is diminished, and people do some idiotic, asinine things when their under the influence of something. If the cops catch you or your buddies smoking pot, you'll have your butts hauled off to juvenile detention so fast it'll make your head spin. You also say no one's ever died from smoking pot. Do you have proof of that or are you just guessing? You are just mistaken if you think drugs don't harm your body. Yes, pot has medicinal qualities FOR THOSE WHO HAVE AN ILLNESS. You don't have any illnesses or diseases, do you?

God's view on drugs is "do not put any unclean thing in your body, for your body is God's temple." You are soiling God's temple!! You're 15, smoking pot, SUPPOSEDLY your a christian which is doubtful because you as a christian should have more sense than to try something you know isn't good for you. You are disappointing God greatly right now. Just because your friends smoke it, doesn't mean YOU have to. Grow up, you have alot of maturing to do yet, and quit smoking pot because God doesn't like his temple getting soiled and his children KNOWINGLY doing something wrong. smh
 
I'm answering as an ex-stoner, and yes, I was a Christian the entire time I was a stoner.

Your logic is off.
1. The commandments come down to love God fully and love others fully. Okay, where does pot fit in? (Did I just give you an idea how long ago I was a stoner? I do know no one but old people call it pot, but check my age. I am an old people. lol) Pot is "love self fully." Love self fully is the opposite of what we're supposed to be doing.

2. If it's there, why wouldn't God think it's fine to use it? Well, okay. Want to eat a bunch of apple seeds with that logic? They're there. They're also arsenic. How about smoking some poison ivy? How about drinking some mercury? You're missing something. Weeds were part of the fall. If it doesn't work in every case, you can't use that logic for one case.

3. Marley is in heaven? Maybe, but what did he ever do for others? What did he do for God? I don't know the guy (even when he was alive -- do still like his music though), but it strikes me his philosophy in life is "Me first." Not cool. Not love God fully and others fully.

4. Healing quality? I'm disabled with chronic pain, so I understand the argument. How's that healing going so far? Are you even using it for healing? THC really does have healing properties. That's why scientists made it in pill form. Not a big hit among the stoners. Probably for the obvious reason. It doesn't make them stoned. Pot does, on the other hand, have a downside few talk about. It suppresses emotional growth. If you start smoking regularly at age 13, and then finally quit at age 40, you wake up as a 40 year old with the emotional maturity of a 13 year old. (The learning curve is steep.)

5. No one has ever died from it? Where have you been living? Do you really think all DUIs are alcohol related? Do you think all people who ever drove under the influence and killed someone could never, ever have been driving while stoned? I live in Philly. A couple of years ago in Center City (the commercial district of our city), a guy was tearing down a building using a bulldozer. One little goof and the Salvation Army store next door collapsed. It destroyed seven lives -- two deaths and five serious injuries. It also destroyed the lives of those people's families. The bulldozer driver was on pain pills for a bad back and smoked a dube an hour before. Want to try dividing that into which part was the pain pills' fault, which part was the dube, and which part was just human error? I don't think the victims want to do that. Of course pot kills. It kills more now, because that stuff absolutely wastes a person to the point, quite often, the stoner doesn't even remember what happened while stoned. (Your weed's not my pot. I do get that.)

6. You've had fun times with your friends? Yeah, me too. The times were more fun without the buzz, because I can actually remember what happened and why. (Even concerts were better when not stoned, and, granted, I only went to concerts without getting high, because I couldn't score any before the concert.)

So, if nothing else, how about from God's word?
Matt. 22:
37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

I get the reason why you still want to get high, but there is more life without it, and not much of a life with it.

From my drug rehab days: Drugs are not the problem. They are the symptom of the problem. You're hiding behind a symptom. Also, not cool. You're ignoring God. Worse than not cool.

Now what?
 
I would like to say for the record smoking weed is in no way an addiction. Drinking boss is and most persription drugs for pain ,sleep, and other problems are very addictive. Pot is just as good a treatment for most of those problems. Better in fact!!! Because it's not addictive. I believe in God and I listen to God. God is love and truth. Don't take my word for any of this. Find out for yourself. Jesus loves the truth too so should you!!!
​Emotionally addicted is still addicted.
 
I would like to say for the record smoking weed is in no way an addiction. Drinking boss is and most persription drugs for pain ,sleep, and other problems are very addictive. Pot is just as good a treatment for most of those problems. Better in fact!!! Because it's not addictive. I believe in God and I listen to God. God is love and truth. Don't take my word for any of this. Find out for yourself. Jesus loves the truth too so should you!!!


I beg to differ with you. If you start taking something, and you enjoy it and can't stop, then that is an addiction. Whether it's alcohol to dull the pain of whatever, or smoking cigs cause you like it and smoke like a chimney, or even just taking a Unisom pill at night to help you sleep. If you can't stop doing it, THEN YOU'RE ADDICTED TO IT. The OP is a young 15 year old child with no physical ailments.
And what on earth is "drinking boss"? I assume you meant BEER, not boss.

This child is smoking pot simply because he sees nothing wrong with it. He's admitted he enjoys it, so most likely if he keeps smoking it long enough, he won't be able to stop it without having withdrawals. He needs to grow up, get through school, graduate and get on with his life, and he needs to stop being a stoner because stoner's don't get anywhere in life if they're stoned all the time. I sure hope he won't be stoned some day when he stands before God, because God will ask him "why did you smoke pot" and I doubt he will accept the answer of "because I liked it." :/
 
Hello again. I just felt the point should be made that pot does have a positive side. There isn't anything wrong with using it responsibly. The real problem is the lack of responsibility. Same as with any drug. No one is condoning the use of drugs while working never mind using heavy equipment or driving.Being safe and not neglecting your responsibility is what is important. Abstinence is not an option sometimes. I would rather he smoke pot savely. Then have him turn his back on us because we have condemd him to hell for it.
 
Hello again. I just felt the point should be made that pot does have a positive side. There isn't anything wrong with using it responsibly. The real problem is the lack of responsibility. Same as with any drug. No one is condoning the use of drugs while working never mind using heavy equipment or driving.Being safe and not neglecting your responsibility is what is important. Abstinence is not an option sometimes. I would rather he smoke pot savely. Then have him turn his back on us because we have condemd him to hell for it.

Condemned him to hell for it? Nah mate, he's telling us it's alright to use (and still be in intimate relationship with God), justifying it and we are expressing ourselves otherwise. I'd rather tell him the truth about my opinion rather than let him continue unopposed; from someone who's been there, done that.
 
I felt everyone was being a bit extreme so went all the way the other way. I don't even smoke the stuff. It's been a long time since I did. I don't miss it at all. There is nothing wrong with experimenting. We all make mistakes. I've done worse things. The positive side of that is that I learned not to do them ever again. I call it my own spiritual growth. I do hope he desires to five up the pot smoking and anything else he tries. Getting stoned is a bad idea. The only exception is for medical reasons.
 
I spoke to a christian social worker at the weekend. He is dealing with the wreaks of smoking pot, psychotic depression, mental illness, permanent medication is required to keep them functioning.
The drug works by mucking up your brain chemistry. For some this never comes back to normal.

For those running away from unresolved emotional issues which pot gives relief ofcourse it appears something that is positive. To those who function well, who want to get on and do things, real things that require concentration, thought, focus, you would never use pot.

Does Jesus intend us to be mature, functioning and a good contribution in society, a light on a hill, salt to preserve love and affection among people, or zoned out zombies who are too scared to face the real issues of life.
How much further do you need to get from carrying your cross daily do you need to get before you say this is stupid.