Catholic Heresy (for the record)

Jackson123 · May 2, 2015

the saints will judge the fallen angel.I don't know when and I don't know about the not fallen angel.

If so is that mean dead saint allow to communicated with the living man?

Not in the bible.

If I said to my son, you can drive this car. is that mean he/my son can use my money?

Money and car are 2 different thingy isn't it?

If the saint will judge the fallen angel is that mean the dead saint allow/able to communicated with the living man?

[h=1]1 Corinthians 6 King James Version (KJV)[/h]6 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

King James Version (KJV)by Public Domain

AngelFrog · May 2, 2015

Mary was full of grace. Therefore she was sinless. If you think Mary was a sinner then you're saying the fruit of her womb was born a sinner.
You're wrong on all counts.

MikeHenderson · May 2, 2015

Interesting what you said AngelFrog. Are you saying Jesus had to be in the Womb of a sinless person to be sinless Himself?

In order to keep Jesus Sinless through Mary being sinless, did not Mary's Mother have to be sinless to keep Mary sinless? You need not answer because i know you Roman Catholics teach Mary's mother did not have to be sinless. So what the catholic Church is saying is that God is not Omnipotent!

Omnipotent - God is able to bring to pass everything that He chooses. He has no external limitations. His only limits are those He places upon Himself. The book of Job (42:2) says that He can do all things and that nothing can restrain him. Genesis 18:14 simply asks, “Is anything too hard for the LORD?” The answer, of course, is “no.”

God IS Omnipotent! Which means God did have the power to keep Jesus sinless while in the womb of a person who was a sinner.

See how the Catholic Church has put Mary ABOVE God! Mary had the power not God to keep Jesus sinless. This is nothing more than lies from Satan that the Catholics teach as Truths from God!

This proves the Catholic Church does NOT follow God and all the Catholics do not follow God. To them God is powerless and below Mary.

Mary was a sinner AngelFrog. Just because Satan said Mary was sinless does not make it so. Why AngelFrog are you following Satan and his Lies? Why AngelFrog are you doing the Will of Satan?

MikeHenderson · May 2, 2015

Mary was a sinner AngelFrog.

Romans 3:9-12
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
[SUP]11 [/SUP] There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one."
Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Clearly the Holy Spirit says none are righteous, none seeks after God, no not one not even Mary. The Holy Spirit says ALL are under sin, ALL have sinned! The ONLY sinless person was Jesus Christ!

Hebrews 4:15
[SUP]15 [/SUP] For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.

Only Jesus Christ was without sin AngelFrog. Show me where in the Scriptures did God ever say that Mary was "without sin"!

Its not there because God said Mary was a sinner.

All have sinned AngelForg, even Mary.

Show me where in the Dictionary AngelFrog where the definition of Grace means being sinless?

Show me where in the Dictionary AngelFrog where the definition of blessed means being sinless?

Its not in any dictionary!

Have you ever considered accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior AngelFrog? You really should think about it but do not wait too long for you might miss out on entering into Heaven if you wait too long.

AngelFrog · May 2, 2015

MikeHenderson said:

You're free to believe that.

KenAllan · May 2, 2015

The Catholic Church has put Mary above God. The Catholic Church has put its teachings above God. In essence the Catholic Church has set itself up to be greater than God. Is this what Satan said at the beginning? That his Throne will be above the Throne of God!

The Catholics are then saying their Church is above God!

No wonder the Catholics reject what God says in the Scriptures.

There is no Truth in the Catholic Church because God is Omniscient

Omniscient, God knows everything and His knowledge is complete. This is called His omniscience. Isaiah said that Israel had not seen everything that God had planned (Isaiah 40:28). Job said that God had all knowledge (Job 37:16). The psalmist said that God’s understanding was infinite (Psalm 147:5). The New Testament also claims God’s omniscience in 1 John 3:20 and Romans 11:33.

If God is Omniscient then God knows ALL the Truths. If God has all the Truths then there are no Truths outside of God's knowledge!

Therefore for the Catholics to claim they have Truth's that God does not have means the Catholics believe God is powerless!

No wonder the Catholics Worship Mary as their God!

JesusIsAll · May 2, 2015

KenAllan said:

They address priests as Father, in disobedience to Jesus Christ, and even call the Pope "Holy Father." This is a name our Lord used, only in prayer to God the Father. Where their gall comes from, to call anybody else a heretic, is beyond comprehension.

valiant · May 2, 2015

AngelFrog said:

The Greek word does not mean 'full of grace' it means 'highly favoured'. The same word is use in Eph 1.6 of believers, who are 'highly favoured' (or full of grace) in Christ. Thus what was said of Mary is true of all believers. Neither she or they are sinless. Rather both experience the grace (unmerited love and favour) of God,

The fact that Mary was sinful would not affect the One Who was born of her for He was 'conceived of the Holy Spirit' not of Mary. Even your creeds tell you that.

Indeed by your argument Mary would have to be conceived of a sinless woman in order for her to be sinless. But you wangle your way round that one with the lies of the church of Rome. Mary was sinner. It is you who are wrong on all counts..

KenAllan · May 2, 2015

Its interesting that you choose to quote from the Gospel of Thomas AngelFrog. Do you know that the Gospel of Thomas was written by a person who rejected Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior?

The Gospel of Thomas was not written by the Holy Spirit AngelFrog.

This is more proof that you AngelFrog do not follow Jesus Christ. For if you have received Salvation from God you would also have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. And with the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit you would see the Truth that the Gospel of Tomas is a false book.

You really need to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior AngelFrog before you die in your sins. Otherwise the only other place to go is the Lake of Fire.

I do understand that not everybody who hears the Gospel of Salvation will accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

Matthew 7:21-23
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Jesus Christ says here there will be many who call themselves a True Christian but who really have not accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Judas was one who refused and look what happened to him.

valiant · May 2, 2015

valiant said:

Mary spoke of 'GOD MY SAVIOUR' (Luke 1.47). Only a sinner needs a Saviour.

When Jesus stayed in Jerusalem (as a boy of twelve) His parents did not know it. They 'supposed Him to be in the company' and only later discovered that He was not. If a mother did that in the UK today the question would arise as to whether social services should be called in because the mother was inadequate. However you dress it up she fell short of her parental responsibility. And that is a failing, a sin. (Luke 2.41-51).

When Jesus was engaged in His ministry 'His family' (Mark 3.21), defined in 3.31-35 as Mary and His brothers, decided to 'seize Him' so as to save Him from Himself. They came and called for Him to come out to them. Jesus IGNORED Mary's presence and said 'Who is My mother, Who are My brothers? Those who do the will of God, the same are My mother, My sisters and My brothers'. This was a clear putting of Mary in her place and demonstrated that Jesus saw her as sinning in what she was trying to do.

When the woman called out to Jesus, 'blessed is the womb that bore you and the nipples you have sucked'. Jesus replied, 'YES RATHER blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it.' (Luke 11.27-28) Jesus clearly did not see her as permanently BLESSED.

As you Roman Catholic always do angelfrog you evade the above arguments. You have no answer so you close your eyes and say 'I see nothing'. It really is impossible to avoid the fact that they reveal Mary to be a sinner like us all, no better, no worse.

Charlotte64 · May 2, 2015

Wow very interesting, I'm new to this site. the reality is what Gods say's in His word is The Only Truth and not what we think, our belief comes from The Bible not our own thoughts, so if someone is being scriptural and being called a basher then it's those who are offended that need to know and learn the scriptures surely !! Thanks for posting RoboOp

mattp0625 · May 3, 2015

AngelFrog said:

The Nazis actually jailed many Catholic clergy. Though they signed a peace treaty with the Vatican, Hitler ignored it. He also established a national protestant church. Most of the Nazis who went to trial professed to be Protestants.

Two points- 1) anyone can claim to be Christian, but it doesn't make them Christian, and 2) don't go believing everything you read

mattp0625 · May 3, 2015

Mary conceived via Holy Spirit in sin? Not possible
Gave birth to Jesus in sin. Not possible
Went to heaven in sin? Not possible
God is omnipotent and knew His plan from the beginning? Yes
God chose Mary as part of His plan from the beginning? Yes.
Angel frog has it right.

KenAllan · May 3, 2015

Its all the Catholics here that really do not understand Spiritual things from God. They are natural men and cannot understand the Spiritual things of God like the absolute power that God has.

True Christians know that God is Omniscient, that there is nothing God cannot not do! But yet the Catholics say God is powerless and that Mary is omniscient!

Why are you Catholics putting Mary above God? Is it because you are doing the will of your father Satan?

Sorry mattp0625 but what you are teaching is not from the Holy Spirit. What you are teaching is from Satan. Do you not understand that you are grieving the Holy Spirit by teaching Mary is greater than God?

Ephesians 4:25-30
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Therefore, putting away lying, "Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor," for we are members of one another.
[SUP]26 [/SUP] "Be angry, and do not sin": do not let the sun go down on your wrath,
[SUP]27 [/SUP] nor give place to the devil.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give him who has need.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers.
[SUP]30 [/SUP] And do not GRIEVE the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

1 Corinthians 2:13-14
[SUP]13 [/SUP] These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Here in 1 Cor 2:14 God tells us True Christians why you mattp0625 teach Mary was sinless. You are a natural man mattp0625 not understanding the Spiritual Truths of God.

Therefore you mattp0625 and AngelFrog have not receive the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Since neither of you have the Holy Spirit neither of you have received Salvation. And since neither of you have Salvation means neither of you will enter into Heaven.

If you really want to believe Mary was sinless, God will allow you to believe in it. There will come a time when God will send a great delusion on you to keep His Truths from you.

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And for this reason God will send them strong DELUSION, that they should believe the lie,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Mattp0625, God has sent a strong delusion to you to keep you from His Truths because you have rejected all His Truths, and are having pleasures in unrighteousness.

God did use Mary, but the Mary that God used is not the same Mary in the Catholic Church. The Mary in the Catholic Church is Satan pretending to be Mary.

valiant · May 3, 2015

mattp0625 said:

Thus says Pope Matt lol I'm not sure if he's speaking ex-cathedra.

As you will see he has NO EVIDENCE. You just have to believe what His church says.

No Mary did not conceive JESUS. As the creeds say 'CONCEIVED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, BORN OF THE VIRGIN, MARY'. In the words of Romans, 'born of the seed of David according to the flesh, but demonstrated to be the powerful Son of GOD. It was the Holy Spirit Who conceived Jesus within her, as the Bible and the creeds all recognised

If you mean could He be born of Mary while she was a sinner, and Himself not be sinful, it was perfectly possible. His nature was His own, perfect and pure through the Holy Spiril . He did not inherit Mary's sinful nature. He was and is GOD. But in His flesh He could be tempted like we are, and yet without sin.

Those of us who have been made whole by the blood of Jesus all go to Heaven when we die. And we go free from sin. Like us Mary was a sinner. But like us she was made free from sin before entering Heaven as one of the redeemed.

Something we can agree on at last. And His plan was that through the seed of the sinful woman Eve (and through sinful Mary) there would be born into the world His Son Who was pure and righteous in order to die for Eve, and for Mary, and for all who believe.

True. All things were planned by God from the beginning

He even planned for angelfrog to be wrong.

Jackson123 · May 3, 2015

mattp0625 said:

If you listen to Eric Jon Phelps, Alberto Rivera and some other. Vatican plan to make holocaust used Hitler.

Hitler kill about 2500 priest from the North Germany is order from Vatican, because North Germany catholic doesn't accept the doctrine of the infallibility of Pope.

Catholic has history of antisemitism

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MikeHenderson · May 3, 2015

"Mary conceived via Holy Spirit in sin? Not possible"

Show me mattp0625 where God says Mary had to be without sin? Show me mattp0625 where in the Scriptures does it say Mary was "without sin"?

"Gave birth to Jesus in sin. Not possible"

Show me mattp0625 where did God say Jesus had to be born to a sinless person? Show me mattp0625 where in the Scriptures does it say Jesus Christ could not be born in the womb of a sinner?

"Went to heaven in sin? Not possible"

Show me mattp0625 where in the Scriptures does it say we have to be sinless to enter into Heaven? Show me mattp0625 where does it say in the Scriptures a person who has sinned cannot enter into Heaven?

Its not what YOU want to believe in mattp0625 that is the Truth, the Truth is ONLY in God and the Scriptures. If it is not in the Scriptures and God does not teach it then it is a lie that you believe in mattp0625.

What you Roman Catholics do not understand is that only God has the Truth. Its not what you want to believe in, its not what the Catholic Church wants to teach that counts. Its what God has said that counts.

I do know for a fact you will refuse to show any Scriptures that proves what you are teaching because there are no Scriptures that teach what you are saying. None of what you teach is from God and you do know what you teach is not from God. Because if it was you would be ready to show where in the Scriptures God said Mary was without sin.

Since you cannot prove with Scriptures God said Mary was without sin proves the Doctrine of Mary being sinless is not from God. Since the Doctrine of Mary being sinless is not from God means you are not walking with God. No one who walks with God will ever teach false doctrines that are not from God.

God will allow you mattp0625 to travel down through the broad gate that leads to the Lake of Fire. God will not stop you.

You need to understand the Word of God is a shield that protects us from the lies from you Catholics and from the lies of the Catholic Church.

MikeHenderson · May 3, 2015

All the Catholics need to Repent, accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. All the Catholics need to reject the Mary of the Catholic Church and turn to Jesus Christ instead.

As it is now today, no Catholic will ever enter into Heaven.

SAVAS · May 3, 2015

valiant said:

Your still not understanding. Your still using the word "dead". The body of Christ doesn't die man.

Hebrews 12:23

New Living Translation
You have come to the assembly of God's firstborn children, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God himself, who is the judge over all things. You have come to the spirits of the righteous ones in heaven who have now been made perfect.

And its not like we seek the contact, or want to meet them and have a cup of tea. We humbly ask that they pray for our souls. Why? Because of this:

James 5:16

New Living Translation
Confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The earnest prayer of a righteous person has great power and produces wonderful results.

So, Valient we know from Hebrews the great assembly that resides in Heaven. We know that some peoples prayers have great power from James and finally we must intercede with one another in Timothy

1 Tim 2:1

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men;

Valient, if your interpretation claims that "all men" is only those living in the world you see, then we must agree to disagree. I know its confusing to you, "Christ is the only mediator 1 Tim 2:5". But if we use your logic or interpretation, you and I would be wasting our time praying for one another right?

SAVAS · May 3, 2015

MikeHenderson said:

Ive never witnessed more judgment in my life than on this website. that is an obsurd statement. Lord have mercy!

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