WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL" )

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Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

When Adam and Eve were in the garden. For one, it wasn't before creation because he was hurled to the earth, and the earth didn't exist yet. For two, satan tempted Eve (and Adam who was right next to her) in the garden before the angel with the flaming sword vanished them from the garden.
 
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I believe Lucifer and his minions were cast out of Heaven as citizens of Heaven at some point between Genesis 2-3. However, they were allowed at some point to gain access to Heaven (under angel guard) so as to accuse the brethren. I believe that this is still the case today and that a war will break out in Heaven in the future right at the beginning of the Middle of the Tribulation because the devil and his minions will be upset over the death of their top guy (the Anti-Christ). The devil will then be cast out of Heaven for good (no longer having any access whatsoever anymore) and he will be really really upset (Knowing he has a short time left). So the devil will persecute the woman (i.e. the Jews) whereby many of them will flee to the mountains and he will kill Christians because of their refusal to take the mark of the beast (i.e. the beast is a demon who possesses or resurrects the body of the man known as the Antichrist who died).
 
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satan is still bound by Michael in heaven , Revelation 12:12 has not occurred yet , When 2nd Thessalonians chap 2 comes to pass, that is when satan the son of perdition (perishing) is sitting in the Holy place claiming to be Christ/God , satan was sentenced to death in Ezekiel chapter 28 , God is going to turn him to ashes from within in the sight of all 28:18 prince of Tyrus is what God calls satan, because Tyrus in Hebrew means (rock) go to Duet 32:31 and see , their rock is not our Rock.. Christ said it was a Viperous generation, so God`s overall plan for man is moving full steam ahead Duet. 32 is spiritually who Christians are at war on earth with , coming in the form of radical Islam and McCarthyist Homosexuals who in order to promote their agendas have done and are doing their individual satanic best to undermine the Christian Faith. There is no mistaking who the fools in this world are, they are called none believers , God`s thinking not mine Psalms 14
 
Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

I am certainly not dogmatic about it; but i see a real possibility of Satan and his fallen angels being cast out of heaven, and Satan totally loosing access to God (the Father) may be separate events.

Consider Satan's temptation of Eve in the Garden of Eden, Nephilim, demonic activiyy on Earth, and 2 Co 4:4
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
KJV


Isa 14:9-15

9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

[event #1]

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. [event #2]
KJV
 
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Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

Job 1:12 It`s late in coming , but yet again all things are possible with God :cool:
 
Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

Did you know that satan is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ? and Christ is the tree of Life Revelation 22:2 and that we are called trees of righteousness ? Isaiah 55:12 and that those who take Him up on His promise Hebrews 11:6 and are diligent in study will become an overcomer and become God`s planting, that He might be glorified. Isaiah 61:3 Read Mark chap 8 and learn to see men walking as trees , then go to luke 22:31 and open your spiritual eyes to The Green Tree of Life (Christ in His flesh body) and the Dry body (spiritual body) you see now what the world does to Christ now that He is no longer here, the world is still crucifying Him with lies about Him to this day ..... just understand to see Men as trees in the bible is one of the important keys to discerning scripture, peace to you and in all your getting get understanding.
 
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I believe Satan was on earth from the beginning until the time of Christ.. Satan was the serpent in the garden and tempted Christ in the wilderness. Satan was then cast out "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out" (John 12:31). Satan is locked-up now until the end times, when he'll be cast out.
 
Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

Days of Vengeance:
(A Continuation of the First 3 ½ Years of the Tribulation):

Events Leading Up To The Days of Vengeance & Middle of The Tribulation:

The Devil's Wrath Towards the Jews & Gentile Believers:

• Revelation 12:13b and Revelation 12:17

(Verse 13): He persecuted the woman who brought forth the male child. (Verse 17): And the dragon was angry with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

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• Revelation 12:12b

(Verse 12): For the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time.
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There are several reasons the woman depicted in Revelation 12:13 is Israel, the man child is Jesus, and the remnant of her offspring is the church.

For one, we know the woman is Israel by the description of the way the woman is dressed. For the woman being clothed with the sun, the moon, and the stars is parallel of the vision from Joseph (See Genesis Chapter 37) and the twelve stars are representative of the twelve tribes of Israel.

In verse 5, it states that the woman’s child was " a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne." Clearly, this is describing Jesus. For Jesus ascended to heaven (Acts 1:9-11) and will one day establish His kingdom on earth (Revelation 20:4-6), and He will rule it with perfect judgment (the “rod of iron”; see Psalm 2:7-9).

The remnant of the woman's offspring is the church for two reasons. One, the woman (who is Israel) will be nourished or protected in the wilderness against the serpent for the last half of the tribulation; And two, the devil will make war with the remnant of her seed, the church saints, which parallels those passages about the anti-christ making war with the saints and overcoming them (Daniel 7:21) (Daniel 8:9-10) (Revelation 13:7).


Tribes?

Stars=Angels.
As shown just two verses below in Revelation 12:4

Off on one thing, makes you wonder what else you might be off on in all these posts.
Guesswork teaching-Im sorry that you feel that this is okay to do.
 
Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

Is that why he carried on a conversation with God and seemed to have free access in the book of Job?

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.
(Job 1:6)

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD.
(Job 2:1)

So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and struck Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head.
(Job 2:7)

God and Satan been best friend this whole time. They hang all the time that's why Satan can walk up in there anytime he wants. Its just brotherly love
 
Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

Hello everyone.

I would like to embark on a conversation about the WAR that broke out in Heaven at Rev 12:7 and so forth.

When Satan was cast out of Heaven. MY Question is when did this take place ? I enjoy talking about the Bible and things retaining in it. So what I'm about to ask of you, is not a lot. Please before you comment do some research and only give scriptural documentation on the matter so we can all get a full understanding on this subject and where your coming from.

thanks

P.S. We need to do some kind of reasoning with scriptures to fully grasp it all.

2Ti 3:16, 17 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.



2Pe 1:20, 21 For you know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. 21 For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit.

You should check out a book called The book of Enoch, it goes into the event in more detail
 
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You should check out a book called The book of Enoch, it goes into the event in more detail
Are you saying that man's writing has more and further insight into God's dealings than God and His Word has?
 
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Are you saying that man's writing has more and further insight into God's dealings than God and His Word has?

Well man wrote the scriptures . so I guess so
 
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Well man wrote the scriptures . so I guess so
Well the book of Enoch is not inspired Scripture whereas the 66 books of the old and new testament are...

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
 
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Well the book of Enoch is not inspired Scripture.

Genesis 5:25And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

According to who?

I would think his scriptures would be one to read since him and God had a great relationship.
 
Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

Well the book of Enoch is not inspired Scripture whereas the 66 books of the old and new testament are...

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Its says all scripture, so they should include all scripture. In the bible and out of the bible..
 
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Genesis 5:25And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

According to who?

I would think his scriptures would be one to read since him and God had a great relationship.
The book of Enoch was written thousands of years after the Genesis Enoch lived...different guy.
 
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Its says all scripture, so they should include all scripture. In the bible and out of the bible..
They included all inspired writings and that's what is in our bible. You can try your Book of Enoch theory in a New Age forum...you'll have better success.
 
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The book of Enoch was written thousands of years after the Genesis Enoch lived...different guy.

Well doesn't that go for the first 5 books of the bible. Nothing was written until Moses ?

Actually that would go for pretty much all of the bible books..
 
Re: WHEN DID SATAN GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN ???? ( " LET'S GET SCRIPTURAL

Well doesn't that go for the first 5 books of the bible. Nothing was written until Moses ?

Actually that would go for pretty much all of the bible books..
You are making little sense. Moses wrote the first five books under inspiration and they had those books since that time.
The Book of Enoch was written a couple of thousand years after Enoch lived, so it could not have been written by him.