None Good...No Not One!

[ManonFire63]

Ignorance is still ignorance and Socrates died exactly when? Before the gospel message was preached unto the Gentiles...and exactly where did Socrates die? Not in the land of Israel and more likely than not without ever hearing any of the word of God....

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God......many a (good) man has died for a cause and still busted hell wide open when they took their last breath!

If Balaam Son of Boer is a Prophet, and even the Jews recognize him as a gentile Prophet, then where did he come from?

Are you saying that God has not had a plan, and a guiding hand, helping the world and all man kind come back to him? That is the worst and most ignorant heresy.

By the way...Daniel prophesied of the rise and fall of Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome and what Rome devolves into<--the 10 toed/horned kingdom that will ultimately be overcome and ruled by the beast/little horn A.K.A. Anti-Christ so called.......for the record!

Alexander The Great had that Leopard Spirit. Alexander who was taught by Aristotle, Aristotle who was a student of Socrates, Socrates being the most important man in Western Thought, who has a lot to do with how even you, dcon, view God and religion.

No matter how it is sliced and diced....the Spirit seeks to obey and conform to the word of God...the flesh is fallen and seeks to rebel, is not subject unto the law/word of God and neither indeed can be......the battle ground is the MIND where we make conscience decisions........Yes children of God can walk in a matter that pleases God and yes we can suppress sin, keep from living a continual lifestyle of Sin....at the same time...Not one saved child of God is above failing, stumbling and sinning period...The bible is clear....our flesh is weak!

I what I have been trying to say, is at a certain point, you progress in Faith to the point where you are not suppressing sin. You are free. There is freedom in The Lord. Do you think Elijah or Elisha sinned after they received their calling? No. Did they hold it above people and act self-righteously in the way you seem to think I am in your self-righteous and hateful box? No. I don't talk about not sinning often.

The title of this thread is None Good...No Not One. Why is no one just or good or righteous? None seeks after God....in reference to the Jews, and they will be blind till the day they say "blessed is he who comes in my name."

Still, the Bible is full of things at appear to be contradictions. The Bible is a double edged Sword when wielded correctly, but sharper, because it can go straight to the heart. In English Bad can be good, and sometimes bad is bad. Wicked can be Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures cool. Wicked can be wicked. Tongue like a double edged Sword.

Bad Religion, Godsmack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucJXQSo_HXo

FYI, God is Love. The F-Bomb when used by a believer with the authority of God can heap some blessing on people. (James 1:2-4) In reference to the song. I make the light and the darkness. I The Lord bring the Good times and the Badl. (Isaiah 45:7)

 

[ember]

Still, the Bible is full of things at appear to be contradictions. The Bible is a double edged Sword when wielded correctly, but sharper, because it can go straight to the heart. In English Bad can be good, and sometimes bad is bad. Wicked can be Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures cool. Wicked can be wicked. Tongue like a double edged Sword.

What appears as contradiction is the flesh struggling to understand the Spirit.

FYI, God is Love. The F-Bomb when used by a believer with the authority of God can heap some blessing on people. (James 1:2-4) In reference to the song. I make the light and the darkness. I The Lord bring the Good times and the Badl. (Isaiah 45:7)

FYI...God's MAIN attribute is His HOLINESS...which you seem to know nothing whatsoever about

Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear. Ephesians 4:29

You are not hearing from God to state the things you do. You disgrace His Holy Name with your fbomb stupidity.

What utter nonsense and vile imaginings.

May God have mercy and I do hope people stop responding to you. They should recognize when the flesh is hidden and something else is using flesh and blood to spout out disgusting things

 

[ManonFire63]

What appears as contradiction is the flesh struggling to understand the Spirit.

Stop...just stop, take a break, and try to understand what I am telling you.

Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child. One edge of the sword.

Show Kindness and Mercy. One edge of the sword.

If I am a teacher in a classroom, and you are a misbehaving student, then I show no kindness or mercy by sparing the proverbial rod. Down the middle of the blade. This is how the Bible works. I don't know that I can break it down any simpler barney style for you. How is this wrong? If it is not, and you can't show me it is wrong, or show me where I have made an error, then you are nothing but a hater of the Spirit and God's word. That would make you proud and ignorant with your head in the sand.

Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear. Ephesians 4:29

Man is the Head, woman the neck turning the head. Team effort. The Greater Church is a Bride for Christ. It turns God's Head.

God makes the light and the darkness. He brings the good times and the bad. (Isaiah 45:7) Jesus Christ and his gospel is good wisdom on how to turn God's head towards Good times and his Kingdom, and not Isaiah 45:1-3 or Ezekiel 23 or Ezekiel16:48-49.

God made me not care if every person on Earth dies. I am of European ancestery. He made me care not if I am the only person who looks like me left. This is the end times, and you didn't get Raptured. (Isaiah 57:1) The Good news is God left some Daniels and some prophets around to lead people out of it.

Man uses the F-Bomb that is cursing someone. He is holy. He is also a man of honor, and he made laws. If you say something or put something on someone, it can have ramifications. You should watch your tongue.

 

[ManonFire63]

Notice, a lot of what the Apostle Paul says he says this way, "This is not a commandment, but what the Spirit is telling me." What is the Spirit telling you? The Spirit is like a train at a constant rate of motion. God is always working and moving to thwart Satan. If you are not listening to the Spirit, then you may be left behind with theology and dogma.

The one sin Jesus cannot forgive is Blaspheme against the Spirit. Maybe you should consider that before you start mocking and calling me false again. They called Jesus the Prince of Demons.

 

[ember]

The one sin Jesus cannot forgive is Blaspheme against the Spirit. Maybe you should consider that before you start mocking and calling me false again. They called Jesus the Prince of Demons.

as always...false prophets attempt to curse those who use the Word to demonstrate the false

God has blessed me with His truth...and He protects me from false as well

I have never known one single false prophet who does not show his or her true self when they have light shone on them

the first thing they do is attempt to engender fear by telling the person who sheds the light on the false, that they had better be careful or God will punish them

been there....done that...understand what is actually going on here

God is my refuge and my strengh and a very present help in time of trouble...these are troubling days because of all the false teachers and prophets and false Christians

However, nothing can remove me from God's hand...no curse or false accusation...but I bless you in Jesus Name

 

[ManonFire63]

Ember, the whole problem here starts with you. I get along fine most everywhere I go, and I start teaching. I make an argument or a point, someone might say "Gee, that doesn't make sense to me, can you explain that better," or "This is what I thought to be true" or they just don't say anything at all and work to take it in. We end up having a good discussion and people learn something. Instead of having a constructive conversation, you became wounded and started lashing out at me, like I hit a sore spot. What is really going on here? Do you have a lot of unconfessed sins, and guilt on your conscience?

I seemed to have rubbed you the wrong way from the beginning for some reason. I have never discussed with someone who was so rude and obnoxious. I would rather be debating Muslims right now. I keep telling them how Muhammad is a false Prophet and a pervert, but for some reason, from me they will take it, and no one has come looking to kill me.

I did not try to curse you. I am merely stating a fact that you blasphemy the Spirit. I am not Jesus. The Spirit of God is pure male Thumos. It needs to be tuned, and man needs to be refined. God makes Mighty Men. He is a Fisher of MEN. To show you the Spirit, and what it is doing right now, I will give you two short videos:

We are Harlot, Denial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTNDbptaxY4
Sevendust, Denial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGUflZS7jG0

 

[dcontroversal]

You know what? I've never really truly understood where Paul was going when he mentioned "measure of Grace." I always thought that it was towards our gifting and used Romans 12:6 as a cross reference but still never understood the concept of having a certain amount of grace for what we are doing. But even still, would those 2 (measure of Grace and Spirit without measure) mean the same thing. Christ said that the Spirit would be like rivers of living water, and never thought that it had limits.

Well I look at it like this......

1. Grace is all encompassing and has no bounds as it is extended unto all of humanity equally in Christ
2. The measure of faith as given to man goes from the simple ability to believe to being like Christ and being 100% faithful in all things unto the Father....it is obvious that there are many vessels in a house...some very honorable (very faithful) some not so honorable (not as faithful but believers)
3. The Spirit has no limits but is of power to change the believer and allow the believer to live as God would have them to live...

Ever man has a measure of faith...some very little, some more than others, but Christ received it WITHOUT MEASURE....and we can know and believe that Jesus is the ONLY man to be 100% faithful to God all of the time, every time and a study of the bible will reveal great men of faith and men of faith who were not so great in their faith as their failures are recorded as well......that is how it comes across to me.....Faith can be increased as we know by the man who asked Jesus to INCREASE his FAITH....we can ALL reach the same goal of faithfulness, but it is obvious that we, in this life, will not...like Jesus said...o ye of little faith!

 

[dcontroversal]

FYI, God is Love. The F-Bomb when used by a believer with the authority of God can heap some blessing on people. (James 1:2-4) In reference to the song. I make the light and the darkness. I The Lord bring the Good times and the Badl. (Isaiah 45:7)

Dude...your out of your mind......LET NO CORRUPT communication come out of your mouth......if you really believe the bolded then we are done....this is absolute absurdity and one of the most foolish statements that I have ever heard anyone say........

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

Jesus clearly stated that there is NONE GOOD but God.....God inspired the following thoughts and truths....

1. None Good...no not one<--Romans
2. All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags and our iniquities like the wind have taken us away<--Isaiah
3. If we say we have no SIN, we are deceived and the truth is not in us<--1st John
4. There is not a just man upon the earth that does good and sins not<--Ecclesiastes

Many godly men of the bible committed horrific sins and or sinned after being saved as the bible records...

1. David a man after God's own heart and mind committed adultery with Bathsheba and had her husband Uriah Killed
2. Peter lied three times when he denied the Lord and used foul language in the process, he also played the hypocrite when it came to socializing with the gentiles and then disassociating when the Jews came around.
3. Abraham was deceptive about his half sister wife to save his own skin
4. Daniel prayed and confessed his sins and associated himself with the sins of his people even though one sin is not recorded about him.
5. Paul towards the end of his life writes that he is the number one chief sinner among men.
6. Noah got rip roaring falling down blind drunk after the flood.
7. Thomas, after walking with the Lord for over three years and having the abilities to work miracles doubted the resurrection.
8. Solomon built temples and groves to idols because of the affiliation with his wives and concubines.
9. Peter was also called Satan once by Jesus for denying that Jesus had to die for the redemption of humanity.

Etc. At the end of the day the bible is clear.....the Pharisees bragged about their own righteousness, claimed how sinless they were and consistently pointed the finger at those around them while denying their own sin. Just because someone is saved does not mean that they will not in a moment of weakness sin....this does not mean that we cannot overcome particular sins and or cease from continual sin. You know....the man who will not even lift his eyes to heaven while beating on his chest and seeking forgiveness of sins is the one who walks away justified before God....not the one who brags and boasts of his righteousness, of being sinless and or makes claims to being righteous at the detriment of others.......

The statements below are applied unto particular sins of the flesh and not to the over all sinfulness of the flesh....
1. Go and sin no more
2. Those who have suffered in the flesh have ceased from sin

For there is NOT a just man upon the earth that does GOOD and SINS NOT<------when this was written there were saved men on the earth and this is as applicable unto them as much as it is applicable unto us!

The spirit that is born of God does NOT sin, is eternally saved, justified and sanctified in Christ positionally.
The flesh that the spirit is housed in is fallen, sinful and dead because of sin

Jesus said it best and proves the conflict that takes place within a true believer.......The Spirit is indeed willing, but the FLESH IS WEAK<----Paul expounds on this, although it is rejected by those who brag and boast of their own righteousness and lack of sin!

On purpose you spin the word of God to look like that we may continue the life in sins, and be saved.

And what you are you think that you win for that? Eternal life?

It is written that who do sin, is servant of sin, but who ever do the righteous is servant of the righteousness.

Wake up people's.

What use is win the life for it self, but receive the eternal pain for soul?

Do not commit sin anymore.

 

[dcontroversal]

On purpose you spin the word of God to look like that we may continue the life in sins, and be saved.

And what you are you think that you win for that? Eternal life?

It is written that who do sin, is servant of sin, but who ever do the righteous is servant of the righteousness.

Wake up people's.

What use is win the life for it self, but receive the eternal pain for soul?

Do not commit sin anymore.

I think you should learn to read English...No where in the OP did I (SPIN) what you are proposing as that is a straight lie so I suggest you re-read slowly and actually take the time to understand what is written...and if you say that you don't sin or have not sinned the bible condemns you as deceived and a liar without the truth and word word dwelling in you!

 

[ManonFire63]

Dude...your out of your mind......LET NO CORRUPT communication come out of your mouth......if you really believe the bolded then we are done....this is absolute absurdity and one of the most foolish statements that I have ever heard anyone say........

What is corrupt communication, and how do you define it? As a teacher who has been in High Schools, what people consider bad words 30 years ago are now common place, and saturated in people's music.

Music directly imitates the passions or states of the soul...when one listens to music that imitates a certain passion, he becomes imbued withthe same passion; and if over a long time he habitually listens to music that rouses ignoble passions, his whole character will be shaped to an ignoble form. Aristotle

In other words, you are what you eat. If a musician's fruit is bad, and people eat of it constantly, then they will be roused to ignoble passions and bad character. It is cause and effect.

The Power of the Tongues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ueA9FNb0U

 

[dcontroversal]

What is corrupt communication, and how do you define it? As a teacher who has been in High Schools, what people consider bad words 30 years ago are now common place, and saturated in people's music.

Your logic fails the smell test......so is homosexual and lesbian sex ok now that it is being embraced and (common place)?...what about the murder of babies by abortion?........just because something has come to be common place does not make it right and or biblical....you really need to take a serious look at what you think you know and your beliefs as they fall way short of biblical!

 

[ManonFire63]

Your logic fails the smell test......so is homosexual and lesbian sex ok now that it is being embraced and (common place)?...what about the murder of babies by abortion?........just because something has come to be common place does not make it right and or biblical....you really need to take a serious look at what you think you know and your beliefs as they fall way short of biblical!

Language, and how it changes, can't be compared to Sex and Abortion.

Is American English the same as British English? Is Post Modern English the Same as King James English? Are there words and slang in our vocabulary that are different today then there were 30 years ago?

 

[PeterJens]

I get along fine most everywhere I go

Hi. Just a small observation. Whatever point you are "teaching" or trying to make, it is not clear at all.
The place you are coming from, your way of expressing yourself is pretty unique. How many normal interactions do you have a day, just passing the time? It sounds like you are very much alone, in a place without contacts. Do you go to a local church, have contacts with those you live amongst, or is this your main contribution?

If Badreligion is your expression of faith or reality, you are a long way from 99% of the people of the Kingdom.
Society is not that difficult to understand or the need to rebel against, but it sounds like from your description you are a 30+ living like a teenager.

What about your family and home? Have you walked away from this as well?

 

[ManonFire63]

Hi. Just a small observation. Whatever point you are "teaching" or trying to make, it is not clear at all.
The place you are coming from, your way of expressing yourself is pretty unique. How many normal interactions do you have a day, just passing the time? It sounds like you are very much alone, in a place without contacts. Do you go to a local church, have contacts with those you live amongst, or is this your main contribution?

If Badreligion is your expression of faith or reality, you are a long way from 99% of the people of the Kingdom.
Society is not that difficult to understand or the need to rebel against, but it sounds like from your description you are a 30+ living like a teenager.

What about your family and home? Have you walked away from this as well?

"To get into the Kingdom of Heaven you have to be like a Child." "Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."

Jesus did few miracles in his hometown. He had to move. He was a rambin man. Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but it is written the son of man cannot find a place to lay his head. My calling cut me off from nearly everything. If I was going to go to a Church now, which Church should I go to? A Protestant Church, Catholic Church, a synagogue or some other?

God is calling the Greater Church back together to grow and expand his Kingdom. I don't care about Dogma and Tradition as much as making sure, everyone has the Spirit of God and can hear it. The Spirit will guide people the rest of the way. Because of my calling, at this point, I have had to stay as Neutral as possible. Some people on this forum have issues with some Catholic Doctrine and I understand that, I do as well. I have issues with Mainline Protestants too.

God is Awesome. He rules through Charisma and because he is Just and the best and only real choice. If a Church cannot express this, and bring people into the Church, then there are issues within that Church.


I have had 2000 years of Martyrs and suffering at my back, as well as War chasing me. I have been working to conquer and prophesy to the Nations and the Roots of Problems over Twitter and Facebook. God made me keep my treasures in heaven. Either I am going to heaven, or heaven is coming to me.

 

[dcontroversal]

Language, and how it changes, can't be compared to Sex and Abortion.

Is American English the same as British English? Is Post Modern English the Same as King James English? Are there words and slang in our vocabulary that are different today then there were 30 years ago?

I see the point that was biblical and made went right over your head........!

Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Your logic fails the smell test......so is homosexual and lesbian sex ok now that it is being embraced and (common place)?...what about the murder of babies by abortion?........just because something has come to be common place does not make it right and or biblical....you really need to take a serious look at what you think you know and your beliefs as they fall way short of biblical!

 

[ember]

I did not try to curse you. I am merely stating a fact that you blasphemy the Spirit. I am not Jesus. The Spirit of God is pure male Thumos. It needs to be tuned, and man needs to be refined. God makes Mighty Men. He is a Fisher of MEN. To show you the Spirit, and what it is doing right now, I will give you two short videos:

what you first said to me:

The one sin Jesus cannot forgive is Blaspheme against the Spirit. Maybe you should consider that before you start mocking and calling me false again. They called Jesus the Prince of Demons.

you believe you are a prophet and you believe you have spiritual power...it's all over your posts

I pointed out how arrogant and ignorant you are by saying it is ok to use the a certain word beginning with f and you believe God will bless that...and for that courtesy, you tell me I am blaspheming and I had better watch it

A donkey braying in the wilderness has more sense then what you seem to have

 

[ManonFire63]

Your logic fails the smell test......so is homosexual and lesbian sex ok now that it is being embraced and (common place)?...what about the murder of babies by abortion?........just because something has come to be common place does not make it right and or biblical....you really need to take a serious look at what you think you know and your beliefs as they fall way short of biblical!

Language, and how it changes, can't be compared to Sex and Abortion.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

You are a private in the Marines and I am your Drill Instructor. I may cuss you at you a little bit if you mess up. This doesn't make me less of a Christian. This isn't corrupt communication. I am instructing you, war can be hell and chaotic, and I can't afford you to mess up and possibly cost your life and that of your buddies. I may break you down a little bit, but I build you up when you do well. I am fair. This is edifying.

 

[PeterJens]

My calling cut me off from nearly everything.

My friend, I hope I can call you that, I too follow Jesus. I have always tried to follow the principle, "Be in the world but not of it" Jesus seemed to be saying in the gospel it does not matter where in the world you are, or what part you play, you can follow me, and bring the Kingdom to earth.

Now the church is full of faithful people and also the lost, who happen along the way as well. Part of maturity in spiritual terms is to deal with these people and be a blessing.

One important issue is you are called to love people, but if you are cut off, you can be 100% selfish and still believe you have arrived. It is why single people often end up so eccentric, because they do not have enough interaction with others to show them how dis-functional they really are.

Callings also are to minister, to bring something to others of value. If you cut yourself off, though what you think in your head is so significant, when it actually comes out in real life it can come up empty.

So I wonder, this calling, has anyone confirmed it to you, or given you encouragement?
How badly would it be if this is a dream, rather than facing normal life, with its ups and downs, which might actually be the harder calling you ran away from.

 

[ManonFire63]

what you first said to me:



you believe you are a prophet and you believe you have spiritual power...it's all over your posts

I pointed out how arrogant and ignorant you are by saying it is ok to use the a certain word beginning with f and you believe God will bless that...and for that courtesy, you tell me I am blaspheming and I had better watch it

A donkey braying in the wilderness has more sense then what you seem to have

Every Man is responsible for his own conduct, and the words he speaks. It is not by my power, but by God's. You do not know the Spirit of God. You Blasphemy the Spirit. That is on you.

What if Jesus suddenly popped up today. He rebukes Mary and tells her to sin no more, but he spares her life. He is Good Guy Jesus. Today, he rebukes a sinner, and suddenly he is slut shamming. I am not Jesus, but if he were around, would you even know him?