Sabbath made for Man

[Dayo]

AuphirahQueen, do you realize that by setting up a new handle, you are sinning? You are being deceptive in trying to avoid your ban.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Don't forget to show hospitality to believers you don't know. By doing this some believers have shown hospitality to angels without being aware of it.

 

[Apostol2013]

Aren't you the guy from the chatroom who claims Apostolic authority and that you have seen the risen Christ? Someone who would claim such a thing has no powers of persuasion with me.

I am going on pure scripture you argue fight God because of man made tradition teachings but genesis teaches a lot you fail to see even the apostles knew this but in the end isaiah chapter 66 will be brought forth and the will look upon the car cases of men that transgresed the Lord and be ubhored at the worm that never dies

 

[Apostol2013]

I attack not the personal but go on final authority God's word this is about God Alone it is He we honour

 

[Apostol2013]

God never changed. His laws did. Galatians 3 is clear in that regard. The Old Covenant was only in effect until Christ's coming. To equate God with the Ten Commandments is blasphemous. God is total holiness and cannot be reduced to a list of rules.

Law of circumcision and sacrifice changed this came because of sin

 

[Apostol2013]

The Sabbath was a sign between God and the nation of Israel. How could it be a sign of uniqueness if the Sabbath was being observed by others prior to Exodus? This is pretty basic. Think, man.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. note

 

[Apostol2013]

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. note

This was all creation the word is he sanctified it blessed it and made it holy by the word sanctified it means separated and consecrated a day set apart from other days blessed it means sealed it

 

[sparkman]

I am going on pure scripture you argue fight God because of man made tradition teachings but genesis teaches a lot you fail to see even the apostles knew this but in the end isaiah chapter 66 will be brought forth and the will look upon the car cases of men that transgresed the Lord and be ubhored at the worm that never dies

If someone claims they are an Apostle and has seen the risen Lord, pardon me if I don't find their assertions credible.

 

[Apostol2013]

Now you are attacking persona but answer the question of scripture now you are going on the flesh and flesh and spirit don't mix

 

[sparkman]

Now you are attacking persona but answer the question of scripture now you are going on the flesh and flesh and spirit don't mix

What's the question?

 

[BS]

The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nation of Israel (Ex. 31:12-17).The Ten Commandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex 31:18, 34:28; Deut 4:13, 9:9, 11).The Old Covenant is no longer in effect for anyone (2 Cor 3:4-18, Gal 3:17-25, Heb 8:13-9:4).The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect for anyone (Gal 4:10, Rom 14:5-6, Col 2:16-17).Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands and different commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb 9:15; Jn 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom 13:10).The chief of those commandments is to love others as Christ loved us (Jn 13:34).
The Sabbath was a sign of the Old Covenant between God and Israel (Ex. 31:16-17).A sign is an identifying mark, and the Sabbath identified the nation of Israel as distinct from the other nations.Christians are not parties to the Old Covenant, which was between God and Israel.

1* First Christians are Hebrew! Jeshua was born Hebrew!
2* When the Apostles was teaching people THERE WAS NOT NOTHING LIKE NEW TESTIMONY WRITTEN
3* Jeshua was talking the WORDS of the Old testimony - if you want to understand what the Christ has told you - you must have known it perfecty
4* I am only an human but you and me and all are only BRANCHES of the TREE ... SO I must WARN all of you - Rom.11-36:
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"]1. I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, [of] the tribe of Benjamin.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 2. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 3. Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 4. But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to [the image of] Baal.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 5. Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 6. And if by grace, then [is it] no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if [it be] of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 7. What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 8. (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 9. And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 10. Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 11. I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but [rather] through their fall salvation [is come] unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 12. Now if the fall of them [be] the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 13. For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 14. If by any means I may provoke to emulation [them which are] my flesh, and might save some of them.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 15. For if the casting away of them [be] the reconciling of the world, what [shall] the receiving [of them be], but life from the dead?[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 16. For if the firstfruit [be] holy, the lump [is] also [holy]: and if the root [be] holy, so [are] the branches.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 17. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 18. Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 19. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 20. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 21. For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 22. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 23. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 24. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 25. For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 26. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 27. For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 28. As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 29. For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 30. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 31. Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 32. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 33. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out![/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 34. For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 35. Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?[/TD]
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[TD="class: lt, width: 100%"] 36. For of him, and through him, and to him, [are] all things: to whom [be] glory for ever. Amen.[/TD]
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[sparkman]

This was all creation the word is he sanctified it blessed it and made it holy by the word sanctified it means separated and consecrated a day set apart from other days blessed it means sealed it

Q 1. Genesis 1 says that God rested on the Seventh Day. Doesn’t that imply continuity and that the Sabbath must be kept today?
A. Scripture records that God rested on the seventh day of creation. However, there is no evidence that any man kept the seventh day as a day of rest until the time of Moses (Exodus 16).
The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nation of Israel (Ex. 31:12-17). The Ten Commandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex 31:18, 34:28; Deut 4:13, 9:9, 11). The Old Covenant is no longer in effect for anyone (2 Cor 3:4-18, Gal 3:17-25, Heb 8:13-9:4). The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect for anyone (Gal 4:10, Rom 14:5-6, Col 2:16-17). Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands and different commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb 9:15; Jn 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom 13:10). The chief of those commandments is to love others as Christ loved us (Jn 13:34).
The Sabbath was a sign of the Old Covenant between God and Israel (Ex. 31:16-17). A sign is an identifying mark, and the Sabbath identified the nation of Israel as distinct from the other nations. Christians are not parties to the Old Covenant, which was between God and Israel.
There is no evidence for Sabbathkeeping amongst humans before Moses. The lack of evidence is glaring. Even if there was a command to observe the Sabbath in Genesis, this would not imply that Christians must observe the Sabbath. God commanded circumcision in Genesis but it is not required for Christians today (Genesis 17:9-14).

 

[secularhermit]

@ BS

English lesson 1:

"When the Apostles was teaching... "

They WERE teaching (as also you)

PS


Как се казваш?

 

[Apostol2013]

Now you are attacking persona but answer the question of scripture but flesh and spirit don't mix assumption is an attribute of the flesh

 

[sparkman]

Now you are attacking persona but answer the question of scripture but flesh and spirit don't mix assumption is an attribute of the flesh

OK, what's the question then?

 

[sparkman]

This was all creation the word is he sanctified it blessed it and made it holy by the word sanctified it means separated and consecrated a day set apart from other days blessed it means sealed it

Q.Does something which is made holy stay holy perpetually?
A.In Genesis 2:3 , God made the Sabbath holy.


Holy objects, people and times have been set apart or sanctified by God for His purpose.


Sabbathkeepers often assert that the Sabbath remains holy, because it was set apart at creation.


Being set apart by God for His purpose doesn’t imply that the object stays holy forever, though.


For example, the ground around the burning bush that Moses encountered was called holy, but no one would assert that this ground remained holy (Ex. 3:5).Levites were once holy, but they no longer are (Num. 3:12).Israelite firstborn males and animals were holy, but they are no longer holy (Ex. 13:1-2).The jubilee year is no longer holy either (Lev. 25:12).


The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nation of Israel (Ex. 31:12-17).The Ten Commandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex. 31:18, 34:28; Deut. 4:13, 9:9, 11).The Old Covenant is no longer in effect for anyone (2 Cor. 3:4-18, Gal. 3:17-25, Heb. 8:13-9:4).The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect for anyone (Gal. 4:10, Rom. 14:5-6, Col. 2:16-17).Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands and different commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb. 9:15; Jn. 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom 13:10).The chief of those commandments is to love others as Christ loved us (Jn.13:34).


The Sabbath was a sign of the Old Covenant between God and Israel (Ex. 31:16-17).A sign is an identifying mark, and the Sabbath identified the nation of Israel as distinct from the other nations.Christians are not parties to the Old Covenant, which was between God and Israel.


There is no evidence for Sabbathkeeping amongst humans before Moses.The lack of evidence is glaring.Even if there was a command to observe the Sabbath in Genesis, this would not imply that Christians must observe the Sabbath.God commanded circumcision in Genesis but it is not required for Christians today (Gen. 17:9-14).

 

[BS]

@ BS


English lesson 1:

"When the Apostles was teaching... "

They WERE teaching (as also you)

PS


Как се казваш?

Thanks
I know -unfortunately I was hurry and just did not notice that here is allowed to edit your post in 5 minutes after it has been written - I was late


ps

Бистра

 

[secularhermit]

It´s never too late (I like the way you approached... Is it the Bulgarian way?)

 

[BS]

God commanded circumcision in Genesis but it is not required for Christians today (Gen. 17:9-14).

So what you would suggest we have to do with that part of the Bible where Jeshua has said:Mat 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."?

 

[BS]

It´s never too late

I like the light everywhere -incl in the communication ... so must admit I am surprised of your impressing approach ))))))
By the way do not you think that in the crowd someone may miss a message?

 

[sparkman]

So what you would suggest we have to do with that part of the Bible where Jeshua has said:Mat 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."?

Q.Matt 5:17-19 states the following: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.Doesn’t this imply that Sabbathkeeping is required?

A.Sabbathkeepers often use these verses as an assertion that Christians need to keep the Sabbath.

The context of the Scripture talks about far more than the Sabbath.The term “Law and Prophets” refers to the entire teaching of the Old Covenant and the prophets.The commands of the Old Covenant include about 615 commandments.

The Old Covenant was an agreement between God and the nation of Israel (Ex. 31:12-17).The Ten Commandments are a summary of the Old Covenant (Ex. 31:18, 34:28; Deut. 4:13, 9:9, 11).The Old Covenant is no longer in effect for anyone (2 Cor. 3:4-18, Gal. 3:17-25, Heb. 8:13-9:4).The Sabbath, therefore, is not in effect for anyone (Gal. 4:10, Rom. 14:5-6, Col. 2:16-17).Christians are under the New Covenant, which has higher demands and different commandments (Luke 22:20, Heb. 9:15; Jn. 13:34, 15:12, 17; Rom 13:10).The chief of those commandments is to love others as Christ loved us (Jn.13:34).

Assume the Old Covenant applies today (which it does not).In order to be consistent, the person who asserts these verses require Sabbathkeeping must also keep the rest of the Old Covenant, or he is using them disingenuously.He is not free to pick and choose which ones apply today.

Christ came to fulfill everything that the Old Testament said about him, including his death on behalf of those who place their faith in him as predicted in Isaiah 53.He came to live a perfect life of obedience to the Old Covenant on our behalf.As God, he was able to be sinless and to fulfill the entire law.If a person accepts Christ’s sacrifice in faith, his sins are placed on Christ, and the merits of his perfect life are given to the believer (2 Cor 5:21).That is how our righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees…we receive the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ.