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where in scripture does it state a person is our spiritual covering?
can a person protect us against spiritual attacks or assume the role of a shield?
even though many people believe they have some kind of human spiritual covering, I don't think it is a biblical term
the marriage relationship is different because the husband is supposed to be the priest of the home and the husband and wife are one...a picture of Christ and the church (believers)
apart from that, saying so and so is my spiritual covering is something I don't think I have found in scripture
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After the healing? Really? So...allow science, medicine, doctor's exam and more to 'cure" or deal with the illness, then, whatever is left over after an apparent 'healing", then turn it over to GOD, and allow at that time a minister to cast out the demons? You've got it totally backwards here...Why not allow the Creator of the one suffering from 'mental illness" to intervene FIRST ?
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All I could do is be kind to them, I once met someone who had this and she kinda scared me....but I did prayed for her it was at a work site called the development center. I was talking to her at lunch like any other day and then she like just shut down and when I said her name she snapped at me I got sorta scared and told her ill be sitting by another group of people.. I sat by two guys and she came over and ask why I moved.. I just told her that she looked like she needed a break.. she just gave me a look and left. Didn't know how to talk to her but later on I was told she had social problems..so idk it was a while ago though.
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Yes it was. You mentioned before you were part of a site for veterans I think and that you were sick of people acting like they were in and about fact checking them. You wouldn't fact check unless trying to catch some one in a lie. You checked up on what I told you for the same purpose. I dont get the whole vets getting mad over stolen valor. This liars are lying because they want to recognized as the people they concider heroes. Imitation is the best form of flattery. Yeah lying is wrong but should a hero be mad that someone is imitating them. I'm no hero I never saw battle. I may feel different if I had. I don't know.
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ember
Guest
right...so next time you break a bone you just head straight to the prayer meeting and let us know how that goes
your response has nothing to do with my post...
Everything is not demons...demons would be out of work if people quit sinning and twisting what scripture actually states
I have seen the handiwork of some deliverance ministers...the 'patient' was worse off then before he/she was delivered of their demons
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Guest
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Not unless you are willing to get to the issues you have with deliverance ministers. You are the one who requested this thread. To bash deliverance ministers or to actually get to the bottom of your desires and frustrations?
Son, as long as you think we were bashing, attacking, or hurting you and continue to wallow in false humility you will never get back what you seek.
My frustration with you is that you refuse to drop your pride and continue to want to be petted for things you feel you have no fault in.
My desire is that you be fully restored and your marriage healed and recovered.
My refusal to seem to want help you through private message or anyway else is wisdom, because after all, this is the internet. DO not take that wrong, I just never make a habit out of imparting restoration into anyone I do not know personally.
As a former pastor and now traveling minister used in deliverance at times, much of what you state is not groundedor even found in the Bible. You were asked too many times to count, to provide Biblical scriptures for what you stated. That would not give "reveal" your identity or anything, yet you failed to do it.
The fact remains you have hit the ditch, because your character could not keep you in the place your gifts took you. This is usually a result of working for God and not with him or unto him. People that work for God, usually are self called and self promoted and place personal reason above true discernment.
Everything you have posted seems to tell me you are in deep deception about yourself, your ministry and your family. You play the wounded victim and it always comes back to YOU and the only thing you want back is your ministry.
Your continued persistence in thinking you have done nothing wrong is why you continue to fail with me and certain other posters here. You shift blame to everyone and refuse to take even the smallest amount of personal responsibility or accountability. You only want to react to those that have taken your side or petted your situation.
Time for you to grow up. God Bless you and Keep you, we are done.
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No one has addressed you sir. What started this thread was the request of the same who requested to end it without accomplishing what was set out to be accomplished. My comments were to Ember not you. Ember I am still willing to take the attack if you are willing to approach the reasons why.
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ember
Guest
it's in it's death throws
salut
ps...I also grow increasingly fatigued with being told we are attacking you
I am unsuscribing
it's been interesting...sort of
salut
ps...I also grow increasingly fatigued with being told we are attacking you
I am unsuscribing
it's been interesting...sort of
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mheh....missed this
as I have covered issues with deliverance ministers in the other thread, I don't see a point in doing it again
your rhetoric about bashing etc is just baloney...never happened...you seem to want a one sided exchange
Get to the bottom of my desires and frustrations? egads...don't expect a phone call
You are the frustrated one here because...doggone it...you just cannot make us all come to heel or heal
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This appears not to be about MPD or DID, but about do two people think someone has helped people with this disorder is not legitimate. Now that is boring, because it does not address the issue, is there an issue at all or is it just invented.
It would appear some accept it exists, but only qualified people can handle such cases. This misses the point, there are no qualified people in this field because many dispute it really exists at all. I have not met this, so I am always interested in people expressing there experiences. What it has exposed is there are a lot of nutcases who are too demon minded for their own good. After seeing the junk preached about open heavens etc this stuff is small beer.
It would appear some accept it exists, but only qualified people can handle such cases. This misses the point, there are no qualified people in this field because many dispute it really exists at all. I have not met this, so I am always interested in people expressing there experiences. What it has exposed is there are a lot of nutcases who are too demon minded for their own good. After seeing the junk preached about open heavens etc this stuff is small beer.