Salvation Not Possible Without Works
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Mt 21:7 Those that doeth the will of the Father re the ones that enter the kingdom. Those that 'do not' will not enter the kingdom. Very simple.
As I have posted many, many times before Jesus made repentance Lk 13:3,5; confession, Mt 10:32,33 and baptism, MK 16:16 of equal importance and necessity to salvation as he did believing. For Jesus on one hand to say 'belief only ' saves would contradict all the verses where Jesus made repentance, confession and baptism equally necessary to salvation as belief. I asked in another post can one who believes but no t repent be saved. You said 'no' killing the idea yourself that one can be saved be belief only.
A person that does not believe in Christ will never repent then believe in Christ. Jews were told to repent and believe. They were not atheist they believed in God but not in Christ. They had to first repent of their hard hearts they had against Christ where they could then come to believe in Christ, realize they are lost in their sins repent of those sin. confess Christ and be baptized for remission of their sins.
That aside, it is amazing how you can read a verse that says "repent and believe" and understand that both repentance and belief are necessary yet you can read a verse that says "believeth and is baptized" yet think on needs to believe only to be saved...no baptism, no repentance but believe only to be saved.
Belief is a work, it is a form of obedience and it is a dead belief without works as the devils have.
Jesus said one must believe repent confess and submit to baptism to be saved. All are works that must come before one is saved meaning if one did not have to do the works of believing repenting confessing and submitting to baptism for remission of sins then you are arguing the unbeliever that is impenitent that denies Christ and has not had his sins forgiven can be saved while in that state of unbelief, impenitence, denial of Christ with unforgiven sins.
This is the ongoing problem faith only advocates face in trying to find a way to make one a believer, repentant, a confessor of Christ who has had his sins cleansed away WITHOUT that person having to do the works of believing, repenting, confessing and submitting to baptism.
Without having read the whole thread, I will register the opinion from the word of God that our salvation does not depend on our works, for we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ, whose blood cleanses us of all sin.
Our works are the new natural byproduct of that faith. No genuine works that bring glory to God? Well, then, that faith can be held up to question. Other than that, there is no such thing as obedience gaining us salvation. Obedience is the result of our salvation, and our regeneration by the work of the indwelling Holy Spirit.
Our works are the new natural byproduct of that faith. No genuine works that bring glory to God? Well, then, that faith can be held up to question. Other than that, there is no such thing as obedience gaining us salvation. Obedience is the result of our salvation, and our regeneration by the work of the indwelling Holy Spirit.