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Reborn

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'one of the 24 elders' ? Jeff, this was a pretty serious charge by Reborn, is it true?
Are you kidding me, crossnote???

I took it easy on him.

He told me that Jesus told him l will not be saved........check back with him(Jeff)later. I needed to go through Jeff?
I won't even go any further.


But thanks for taking notice. :p
 
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Sirk

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if you don't listen,
if you don't repent, Jesus will ask you one day why you didn't listen to Him when He sent HIS WORD to save you from your sin and from yourself.

your blood is on your own hands,
though we (ekklesia born again ones set apart in Jesus) pray as we are permitted to that you be saved and not die, Jesus will not override your sin nor your free will to save you, unless you are willing.
So if I don't listen to the message you bring.. I am unsaved? Is that it?

The truth is Jeff....you're a terrible teacher. I realize that this may be the gift that you want to possess... but I think God has a different avenue for you....and PLEASE..... don't teach Sunday school.
 
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GOOD OBSERVATION CROSSNOTE: no. it's not true.

He is lying completely, utterly, and without remorse.

(p.s. simply, i've never thought of myself as more than a disciple of Jesus, or one of his sheep)


Reborn has lied often, and if needed we can 'dig them up' to see his lies in his own words.

I just don't challenge him every time, not nearly, as there's not enough time in the day.

'one of the 24 elders' ? Jeff, this was a pretty serious charge by Reborn, is it true?
 

JesusLives

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you are not entirely wrong here, and actually it is 'easy' to ignore them, but for the fact that others have been deceived by them for so long, and new readers are simply being destroyed by their words and by their lives (i.e. not just on the forum, but from what they themselves post lives around them are being destroyed instead of helped).

"take no part in their works of darkness(which are very evident from their own words/posts),
but rather expose them, so you won't share the penalty of their sin."
See I look at it this way....I know the three of you the same meaning - you, Sirk and Reborn are all posters on threads at CC. I have read different posts from the three of you guys.....I - Blond assumes you are all saved and have asked for forgiveness and repented of your sins.

What I know is that you are all probably nice guys in each of your own walks of life, the three of you do not agree on an issue, but it does not mean that one is saved or lost over the other one... Therefore in Blond's world all of you are o.k. and children of God who deserve to have an equal chance and I should love you as my neighbor....all of you....

I should also try and be a good example and lift up God in a good light to those I come into contact with because to some people I may be the only Bible they will ever read.... Sober thought huh?
 

crossnote

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Are you kidding me, crossnote???

I took it easy on him.

He told me that Jesus told him l will not be saved........check back with him(Jeff)later. I needed to go through Jeff?
I won't even go any further.


But thanks for taking notice. :p
I wanted to hear Jeff's side, otherwise it's a non starter
 
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you wish! whether you listen to me or not doesn't matter. you're still unsaved.

if you don't listen,
if you don't repent, Jesus will ask you one day why you didn't listen to Him when He sent HIS WORD to save you from your sin and from yourself.
So if I don't listen to the message you bring.. I am unsaved? Is that it?
it's not me or any other man who can save you.

if it is possible, only JESUS can save you, if you call on Him and repent.
 
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Sirk

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you wish! whether you listen to me or not doesn't matter. you're still unsaved.

if you don't listen,
if you don't repent, Jesus will ask you one day why you didn't listen to Him when He sent HIS WORD to save you from your sin and from yourself.


it's not me or any other man who can save you.

if it is possible, only JESUS can save you, if you call on Him and repent.
Why are you spreading lies about my salvation and my relationship with Jesus?
 

Reborn

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Want me to find it Jeff?

Liar.

JL, l dont attack Jeff anymore than the others do here.
People read my posts....not his.

So it may look like it, but when you break it down, l bet l have 1 out 100 posts that seem uncalled for.
He starts threads like this? Purposely stirs the pot. Read the OP, the dude is out there.
 
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better yet, listen intently to Jesus. He has known everything all along.

ask reborn to back up his lies - from 24 elders to , well, he's full of them...

he only backs them up with more lies (as liars do). this has been obvious for months...
sad, but true.


I wanted to hear Jeff's side, otherwise it's a non starter
 
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i didn't know you would lie so much, so quickly reborn.

you have never supported the truth as far as i can tell, only deceived others to think you do.
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OP is and was , and might not be because of the likes of you and the other wolves,

for passersby who realize they are sinners, and want to be saved...

not for wolves or hypocrites who keep denying their own Savior with their attacks and their own posts full of lies.


yes, oy, yes, you have been 'popular', like the ones Jesus warned about "woe to you when men speak well of you..." popular --- wanting to have some benefit / acceptance from men and women, instead of getting yahweh's approval according to HIS WORD.

Want me to find it Jeff?

Liar.

JL, l dont attack Jeff anymore than the others do here.
People read my posts....not his.

So it may look like it, but when you break it down, l bet l have 1 out 100 posts that seem uncalled for.
He starts threads like this? Purposely stirs the pot. Read the OP, the dude is out there.
 

Reborn

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better yet, listen intently to Jesus. He has known everything all along.

ask reborn to back up his lies - from 24 elders to , well, he's full of them...

he only backs them up with more lies (as liars do). this has been obvious for months...
sad, but true.
I have no need to lie about CCs resident liar.
 
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Rosesrock

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better yet, listen intently to Jesus. He has known everything all along.

ask reborn to back up his lies - from 24 elders to , well, he's full of them...

he only backs them up with more lies (as liars do). this has been obvious for months...
sad, but true.
Jeff, you have yet told me any info to why you can say anyone is unsaved, all you've done is show offense about those who disagree with you. Again great peace have they, and you show no peace. Why is sirk unsaved? From reading his posts he shows the love of christ when spreading the gospel along with sharing personal tesimony for how he got to the place he's at, jeff would you share your persinal testimony of how you know christ?
 
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Sirk

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i didn't know you would lie so much, so quickly reborn.

you have never supported the truth as far as i can tell, only deceived others to think you do.
the
OP is and was , and might not be because of the likes of you and the other wolves,

for passersby who realize they are sinners, and want to be saved...

not for wolves or hypocrites who keep denying their own Savior with their attacks and their own posts full of lies.


yes, oy, yes, you have been 'popular', like the ones Jesus warned about "woe to you when men speak well of you..." popular --- wanting to have some benefit / acceptance from men and women, instead of getting yahweh's approval according to HIS WORD.

I guess this is a good example of someone missing the whole point of the parable of the rich man and the dishonest manager.
 
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just the false ones, the wolves. how you keep deceiving so many is sad....

you and sirk keep attacking the true believers posting here. in fact, who you attack is a good possible way to see who is telling the truth. you can't stand us.
Actually, Jesus, John the Baptist, Paul, the prophets all raked false teachers over the coals.....don't confuse being raked over the coals as a false teacher of works and sinless perfectionism with attacking true believers.....
 
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your question is loaded backwards.... (so to speak)

i.e. i don't go reading people's posts and make a list and check it twice 'saved' or 'unsaved'.

the wolves attacking the sheep have been doing so for some time; their attacks may be deceiving others in little things all the way to causing them to stumble to keeping those who
are seeking the kingdom of heaven
from finding it, if they are able.

the greatest joy and hope, but not expected yet(at least unknown), is that those who are unsaved would be saved, like Jesus hoped for Jerusalem, but like there at that time, here too, they are unwilling.


Thank you again, but would you answer why it's your job to say who's unsaved?
 
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Sirk

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Jeff, you have yet told me any info to why you can say anyone is unsaved, all you've done is show offense about those who disagree with you. Again great peace have they, and you show no peace. Why is sirk unsaved? From reading his posts he shows the love of christ when spreading the gospel along with sharing personal tesimony for how he got to the place he's at, jeff would you share your persinal testimony of how you know christ?
He's only half way interested in spreading the gospel. His relationship is a homospiritual one. He's not interested in the fact that his life is either a living testimony to Jesus' goodness or a testimony of a dead faith that has no meat on its bones.
 

Reborn

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24 Elders judge, Jeff.
Read Revelation 20.


Exactly what you do, but even worse, you claim to be hearing from Jesus NOW, and judge from there.
 
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Why are you spreading lies about my salvation and my relationship with Jesus?
You forget that he has God's ear and the market cornered on the word of God......all coupled with the ability to judge, motive, salvation and the thoughts and intents of the heart.....
 
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Rosesrock

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your question is loaded backwards.... (so to speak)

i.e. i don't go reading people's posts and make a list and check it twice 'saved' or 'unsaved'.

the wolves attacking the sheep have been doing so for some time; their attacks may be deceiving others in little things all the way to causing them to stumble to keeping those who
are seeking the kingdom of heaven
from finding it, if they are able.

the greatest joy and hope, but not expected yet(at least unknown), is that those who are unsaved would be saved, like Jesus hoped for Jerusalem, but like there at that time, here too, they are unwilling.
Dang it i cant even ask a question right, sorry. What wolves? Are you speaking of the site or the world in general. And you still didnt answer my question