Joyce Meyer -- False Teacher

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santuzza

santuzza

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To be honest, I've not read much by Joyce Meyer. She never struck me as genuine, but when I saw this quote "shared" on my cousin's facebook page, I realized how false her teaching is.

"The amount of mercy you give other people is the amount of mercy that's going to come back to you. There's a lot of people in the world that are lost. They feel invisible and need prayer a lot more than they need criticism and judgment."

The fact that we get back the amount of mercy we show is patently FALSE and unbiblical. Mercy is not like karma! Our faith is not a works-based tit-for-tat. And how could we EVER show God the mercy He has shown us? (And why would we ever need to show God mercy as He is perfect?)

Wow... just ... wow
 
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Sirk

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I'm no Joyce Meyer fan but "for the same measure you use, it will be measured unto you" seems to indicate exactly what she is saying here.
 
p_rehbein

p_rehbein

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forgive us our trespasses AS WE forgive those who trespass against us.......

if we don't forgive others, why should God forgive us.............???

and couple that with what Sirk said...........or, rather Jesus said........

the standard we use to judge others is the standard that will be used to judge us...........I suggest, for self preservation, one apply a heaping amount of Grace............
 
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CeileDe

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I don't care for Joyce Meyer that much but I wouldn't call her a false prophet. False Prophet seems to be used quite a bit these days when someone doesn't care for another teacher of sorts.
 
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Sirk

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CeileDe said:
I don't care for Joyce Meyer that much but I wouldn't call her a false prophet. False Prophet seems to be used quite a bit these days when someone doesn't care for another teacher of sorts.
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Seems that label is used so much that it has become somewhat meaningless.
 
p_rehbein

p_rehbein

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I'm not a fan of hers either, but the point being questioned in the OP is found in scripture.............
 
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psychomom

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CeileDe said:
I don't care for Joyce Meyer that much but I wouldn't call her a false prophet. False Prophet seems to be used quite a bit these days when someone doesn't care for another teacher of sorts.
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i'm not on the ball this morning, but the OP didn't say 'prophet', she said teacher.
 
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psychomom

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santuzza said:
To be honest, I've not read much by Joyce Meyer. She never struck me as genuine, but when I saw this quote "shared" on my cousin's facebook page, I realized how false her teaching is.

"The amount of mercy you give other people is the amount of mercy that's going to come back to you. There's a lot of people in the world that are lost. They feel invisible and need prayer a lot more than they need criticism and judgment."

The fact that we get back the amount of mercy we show is patently FALSE and unbiblical. Mercy is not like karma! Our faith is not a works-based tit-for-tat. And how could we EVER show God the mercy He has shown us? (And why would we ever need to show God mercy as He is perfect?)

Wow... just ... wow
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hey, sis :)

imo, this is speaking of our relationships with other people.
we should not judge harshly or unmercifully, or with a 2x4 in our own eye.

tit for tat is the default mode of the human :rolleyes:
those who know the Gospel know God has dealt with His own quite differently.

(edited to add)

also not a JM fan
 
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Mitspa

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Maybe she is trying to say that if we sow to the flesh (bitterness)..we will reap from the flesh
If we sow to the Spirit (mercy, love, etc) we will reap life etc...
 
p_rehbein

p_rehbein

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OFF TOPIC........well, sort of...........and kinda not..........just yesterday I learned of the downfall of Rick Warren. Weird, just plain weird.......but I was not a fan of his either.
 
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Mitspa

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p_rehbein said:
OFF TOPIC........well, sort of...........and kinda not..........just yesterday I learned of the downfall of Rick Warren. Weird, just plain weird.......but I was not a fan of his either.
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gota link?
 
p_rehbein

p_rehbein

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No, heard about it in church service yesterday morning..........one could search I suppose. It concerns his having various and sundry affairs...........and his excuse given (paraphrased) You don't understand the pressure I'm under.
 
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Mitspa

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p_rehbein said:
No, heard about it in church service yesterday morning..........one could search I suppose. It concerns his having various and sundry affairs...........and his excuse given (paraphrased) You don't understand the pressure I'm under.
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Don't see anything about it ...? odd that its not hit the web yet?
 
p_rehbein

p_rehbein

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Well, I'm searching, and so far have not found the story I was told of yesterday............so, until I can find it and document it, I will withdraw my statement "the downfall" of Rick Warren......
 
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Tankman131

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santuzza said:
To be honest, I've not read much by Joyce Meyer. She never struck me as genuine, but when I saw this quote "shared" on my cousin's facebook page, I realized how false her teaching is.

"The amount of mercy you give other people is the amount of mercy that's going to come back to you. There's a lot of people in the world that are lost. They feel invisible and need prayer a lot more than they need criticism and judgment."

The fact that we get back the amount of mercy we show is patently FALSE and unbiblical. Mercy is not like karma! Our faith is not a works-based tit-for-tat. And how could we EVER show God the mercy He has shown us? (And why would we ever need to show God mercy as He is perfect?)

Wow... just ... wow
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Is the Word of Faith movement biblical?
she is part of a new-age cult
 
p_rehbein

p_rehbein

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Mitspa said:
Don't see anything about it ...? odd that its not hit the web yet?
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Yes, it is, and I would have thought it would have been all over the news......most every channel.......hmm.......see my other comment as well.
 
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CeileDe

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i'm not on the ball this morning, but the OP didn't say 'prophet', she said teacher.
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I stand corrected. False teacher is thrown around a lot as well.
 
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CeileDe

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I love how everything turns into a Cult if someone doesn't agree with it?

I don't consider myself a Word of Faith person but with some of my beliefs people might put me in that category. I think the issue is, people are brought up one way and if they hear something they haven't been taught it is automatically thrown into either False Prophet, False Teacher or a Cult. People should really start researching for themselves before jumping on the band wagon.
 
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