Basicly what she is saying is we are in control when she says we can "prophecy our furture". It's believing we can order God around. I knew a woman that was into Joel Osteen's teachings and she flat told me one day that God would give her anything she wanted! It's like my quote from Isaiah 30, they want to be told "smooth" things, the carnal mind wants what it wants.
Joyce Meyer -- False Teacher
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I have just never understood why so many people are against Joyce Meyer. Most seem to be men and if they were honest about it I'd say many times men do not like a woman to be in the pulpit. Plus she is not a feminine woman so that is probably another strike against her.
I've never heard her say anything that blatantly goes against the Word.
I've never heard her say anything that blatantly goes against the Word.
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Are we talking about pastors who are in authority of a Church or someone who is a minister or evangelist? If a woman claims to be a Pastor, as in authority over men then she should have an all woman church lol. If a woman is teaching other people but not in any sort of authority within a church then I believe they are in accordance with scripture.
I think this is over the top, I seriously doubt she really needs this kind of lifestyle but I guess to be effective in the Word Faith movement it goes a long way to prove your point about "positive confession" to your followers. Probably wouldn't look good if she was living in middle class suburbia. Reminds me of the Bakker era.
“Since 1999, the ministry has spent at least $4 million on five homes for Meyer and her four children near Interstate 270 and Gravois Road, St. Louis County records show. Meyer’s house, the largest of the five, is a 10,000-square-foot Cape Cod style estate home with a guest house and a garage that can be independently heated and cooled and can hold up to eight cars. The three-acre property has a large fountain, a gazebo, a private putting green, a pool and a poolhouse where the ministry recently added a $10,000 bathroom. The ministry pays for utilities, maintenance and landscaping costs at all five homes. It also pays for renovations… Even the property taxes, $15, 629 this year, are paid by the ministry.”[79]
Is Joyce Meyer Word of Faith?
``If you stay in your faith, you are going to get paid,'' Meyer told an audience in Detroit in September. ``I'm living now in my reward.''
https://web.archive.org/web/2006111...emeyer.nsf/0/18C14871599F61AC86256DDD0081B42B?
She says: "I'm living now in my reward.''?
And I thought we were rewarded when we stood at the Judgement Seat of Christ. Who knew?
“Since 1999, the ministry has spent at least $4 million on five homes for Meyer and her four children near Interstate 270 and Gravois Road, St. Louis County records show. Meyer’s house, the largest of the five, is a 10,000-square-foot Cape Cod style estate home with a guest house and a garage that can be independently heated and cooled and can hold up to eight cars. The three-acre property has a large fountain, a gazebo, a private putting green, a pool and a poolhouse where the ministry recently added a $10,000 bathroom. The ministry pays for utilities, maintenance and landscaping costs at all five homes. It also pays for renovations… Even the property taxes, $15, 629 this year, are paid by the ministry.”[79]
Is Joyce Meyer Word of Faith?
``If you stay in your faith, you are going to get paid,'' Meyer told an audience in Detroit in September. ``I'm living now in my reward.''
https://web.archive.org/web/2006111...emeyer.nsf/0/18C14871599F61AC86256DDD0081B42B?
She says: "I'm living now in my reward.''?
And I thought we were rewarded when we stood at the Judgement Seat of Christ. Who knew?
A history of Joyce and Dave is an interesting read. For decades, they struggled, hardly even having money to pay for gas in their old van at times. Holding Bible studies on the floor of their living room.
I don't doubt (considering the kind of "redneck" that she is), she may have bought some pretty foolish things in her life, as she began to make some money from her tapes and books. I guess a lot of people with poor beginnings tend to do that. But a $23,000 toilet? Use your head...... It was probably a bathroom overhaul. (Which, being a GC, I can tell you is not out of line.)
I don't doubt (considering the kind of "redneck" that she is), she may have bought some pretty foolish things in her life, as she began to make some money from her tapes and books. I guess a lot of people with poor beginnings tend to do that. But a $23,000 toilet? Use your head...... It was probably a bathroom overhaul. (Which, being a GC, I can tell you is not out of line.)
There is a nice and proper balance between poverty and a two million dollar home.
But don't take my word for it.
[h=3]Jesus Counsels the Rich Young Ruler[/h][SUP]16 [/SUP]Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[SUP][e][/SUP] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good?[SUP][f][/SUP] No one is good but One, that is, God.[SUP][g][/SUP] But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ [SUP]19 [/SUP]‘Honor your father and your mother,’[SUP][h][/SUP] and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”[SUP][i][/SUP]
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth.[SUP][j][/SUP] What do I still lack?”
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
But don't take my word for it.
[h=3]Jesus Counsels the Rich Young Ruler[/h][SUP]16 [/SUP]Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[SUP][e][/SUP] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good?[SUP][f][/SUP] No one is good but One, that is, God.[SUP][g][/SUP] But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ [SUP]19 [/SUP]‘Honor your father and your mother,’[SUP][h][/SUP] and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”[SUP][i][/SUP]
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth.[SUP][j][/SUP] What do I still lack?”
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
I used to think that her teachings were basically sound until I herd her try to 'teach' her audience how to speak in tongues. I don't believe the Holy Spirit works that way! In fact, I am sufficiently sure that the Holy Spirit does not work that way; that I believe the attempt to pervert His role disqualifies her to teach.