You truly don't know what you're railing against. Yes, every born again believer has the indwelling Holy Spirit, but not all have experienced His baptism, and His overflowing abundance, or His anointing.
I do not have an angry, defensive spirit. I stand against people like you for the sake of Jesus Christ and for the sake of those who just might be influenced by your malice toward well-known, God-blessed and God-appointed workers in the Body of Christ. Sometimes they may make a mistake in their teaching. Does that mean you have to stone them and label them false? Many of the posts in this thread that include links are simply out-of context and out-of date links that mean nothing today, as the teachers in question have moved on, but of course, people with an agenda to tear down, rather than build up will continue to harp away at some ancient error that has already been corrected and shored up by the Spirit's doing. But the weak among us cannot see that. They wail and cajole and mock out of their spiritual babyishness.
Grow up.
I do not have an angry, defensive spirit. I stand against people like you for the sake of Jesus Christ and for the sake of those who just might be influenced by your malice toward well-known, God-blessed and God-appointed workers in the Body of Christ. Sometimes they may make a mistake in their teaching. Does that mean you have to stone them and label them false? Many of the posts in this thread that include links are simply out-of context and out-of date links that mean nothing today, as the teachers in question have moved on, but of course, people with an agenda to tear down, rather than build up will continue to harp away at some ancient error that has already been corrected and shored up by the Spirit's doing. But the weak among us cannot see that. They wail and cajole and mock out of their spiritual babyishness.
Grow up.
Well, unlike you, I have grown up. I grew up because I trusted the Bible, and the Holy Spirit to lead me. Not supposed preachers who suddenly change their basic doctrines when called out by the church at large for their heresies.
One of the links from CARM on Joyce Meyer, which I took the time to read, did quote some older sources. But the researcher said he sent a letter to her organization asking to confirm what she said in her published books, and they never answered back. CARM is a huge internet site, with over a million and a half hits monthly. Odd that Joyce Meyers wouldn't have wanted to correct her doctrine, which she herself had to correct, when she found out how wrong she was about the lies she was teaching!
As for this supposed "Baptism of the Holy Spirit" I'm still waiting on Scripture to support it.
And waiting, and waiting......