How to promote unity while acknowledging doctrinal differences

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SolidGround

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All nice and tidy, but in the real world...or even in here on CC there are those that don't fit the description "in Christ". They are still "in Adam".
This is true. There are tares within the wheat.
But when we pull them out, let it be by individual, not as bunches, or we will take up wheat along with them.
Better to leave the tares, and tend to the wheat.
The tares do not destroy unity, even if they try. The elect are sealed, and that seal is part of their unity.
 

SolidGround

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I'm not saying that it is okay to let deceivers remain within the communion,
but that we need to be careful of what parameters we assign to our judgement of who is and isn't in Christ.
 
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SolidGround

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I believe actions are the primary parameter, based on the NT Scriptures, for judgement of who is His and who is not,
with denial of the person and work of Christ as the very close, equally important, second,
and false prophecy as the third.
 

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This is true. There are tares within the wheat.
But when we pull them out, let it be by individual, not as bunches, or we will take up wheat along with them.
Better to leave the tares, and tend to the wheat.
The tares do not destroy unity, even if they try. The elect are sealed, and that seal is part of their unity.
Ok, I'll do the sowing and leave the pulling out to you :)

Oh wait, but you also said to leave the tares as well as pull them out individually :confused:
 
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SolidGround

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It's not a one size fits all parable, and I overstepped. Apologies.
 

JesusLives

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You know Blond had found that when you take the time to get to know a person....you then become invested in them as another human.....common ground... I had a girlfriend that she along with my daughter would ask random questions to each other just to get to know the other person better....Like tell us something you have never told us before? Or what is your favorite place?

Just any and every kind of question and we felt so much closer to each other at the end of these question sessions because we knew more about what made us tick.

The most important thing any Christian needs to know and understand is about Salvation and all the extras can fall into place...We have no business questioning the avenues God uses to draw people to himself....and by avenues I mean different denominations. As I say to my daughter all roads lead home....and as far as this Blond is concerned if people understand about Salvation, repentance and acceptance of the sacrifice Jesus has made....who am I to question the validity of another persons walk with God just because they belong to a different denomination?

I had a sweet little Baptist friend I worked with one time tell me I was going to hell....I said really and why is that? Because you aren't taking your daughter to church.... Oh I said would you like to take her to church for me? She hesitated a bit and then said yes and I said o.k. And that is how Blond got Sunday mornings free to do grocery shopping without paying a babysitter.... God only knows the heart and whether or not we belong to Him....Why do we think we need to do His job?
 
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Grandpa

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You know Blond had found that when you take the time to get to know a person....you then become invested in them as another human.....common ground... I had a girlfriend that she along with my daughter would ask random questions to each other just to get to know the other person better....Like tell us something you have never told us before? Or what is your favorite place?

Just any and every kind of question and we felt so much closer to each other at the end of these question sessions because we knew more about what made us tick.

The most important thing any Christian needs to know and understand is about Salvation and all the extras can fall into place...We have no business questioning the avenues God uses to draw people to himself....and by avenues I mean different denominations. As I say to my daughter all roads lead home....and as far as this Blond is concerned if people understand about Salvation, repentance and acceptance of the sacrifice Jesus has made....who am I to question the validity of another persons walk with God just because they belong to a different denomination?

I had a sweet little Baptist friend I worked with one time tell me I was going to hell....I said really and why is that? Because you aren't taking your daughter to church.... Oh I said would you like to take her to church for me? She hesitated a bit and then said yes and I said o.k. And that is how Blond got Sunday mornings free to do grocery shopping without paying a babysitter.... God only knows the heart and whether or not we belong to Him....Why do we think we need to do His job?
That's pretty smart for a blonde.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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I think my biggest disappointment the last day has been seeing those who whole-heartedly agreed with me when I posted this thread now letting those who don't want unity or peace provoke them to return to the low road we are all trying to get off of, or so we all said.

I'm beginning to think seeking unity and peace is a lost cause.
 

JesusLives

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I think my biggest disappointment the last day has been seeing those who whole-heartedly agreed with me when I posted this thread now letting those who don't want unity or peace provoke them to return to the low road we are all trying to get off of, or so we all said.

I'm beginning to think seeking unity and peace is a lost cause.

I look at it this way.....God never said all Christians would unite....He said His followers would unite....so those who really follow God will be doing what He asked them to do and they will be encouraging those who need it and loving and sharing the gospel....I have found kinship with several people on CC and I know we are not all of the same denomination and if you recall the Bible at the end of time there is a remnant which is a small piece of the whole...

So don't be discouraged Brother just find those doing Gods work and stick with them.
 
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Sirk

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I think my biggest disappointment the last day has been seeing those who whole-heartedly agreed with me when I posted this thread now letting those who don't want unity or peace provoke them to return to the low road we are all trying to get off of, or so we all said.

I'm beginning to think seeking unity and peace is a lost cause.
Gangrenous limbs require amputation. Amputation in the body of Christ looks like cutting off fellowship with the person who refuses correction. God loves unity and sometimes unity requires a pruning.
 
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Rosesrock

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I think my biggest disappointment the last day has been seeing those who whole-heartedly agreed with me when I posted this thread now letting those who don't want unity or peace provoke them to return to the low road we are all trying to get off of, or so we all said.

I'm beginning to think seeking unity and peace is a lost cause.
Unity isnt forced, but only from the heart
 
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I think my biggest disappointment the last day has been seeing those who whole-heartedly agreed with me when I posted this thread now letting those who don't want unity or peace provoke them to return to the low road we are all trying to get off of, or so we all said.

I'm beginning to think seeking unity and peace is a lost cause.
I placed four people on ignore for now. This will alleviate a good percentage of my sparring.
 
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Rosesrock

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I placed four people on ignore for now. This will alleviate a good percentage of my sparring.
Uuuuutttttaaaahhhhhh, is it me huh huh huh ???
 
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purgedconscience

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I think my biggest disappointment the last day has been seeing those who whole-heartedly agreed with me when I posted this thread now letting those who don't want unity or peace provoke them to return to the low road we are all trying to get off of, or so we all said.

I'm beginning to think seeking unity and peace is a lost cause.
I'm just jumping in here on the last page and I'll eventually go back and read the whole thread. I read a Lou Holtz quote on another thread here the other day and it almost seemed like an ominous foreboding when I read it. Lou said:

When all is said and done, more is said than done.

The choice is ours.
 
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Shadow-THI

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Smoking will not send you to hell. As one old preacher once said it only make you smell like you've been there.

For the cause of Christ
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A pearl of wisdom! Mindif I use it?
 
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atwhatcost

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I think my biggest disappointment the last day has been seeing those who whole-heartedly agreed with me when I posted this thread now letting those who don't want unity or peace provoke them to return to the low road we are all trying to get off of, or so we all said.

I'm beginning to think seeking unity and peace is a lost cause.
I don't feel so bad. I wasn't ever wholehearted, since I never saw what I was supposed to be aiming to do.

But, what you're putting into practice, I'm never going to do. If you think asking the same questions forever is unity, I respectfully disagree. I've been watching the "conversation" you've been having on another thread. You can't get unity when there is nothing to unite to and you can't have a conversation when one person is intentionally ignoring 90% of anything you say. And, I'm not saying your wrong. That can be your way of doing it, but it's not my way.

Remember? You're an arm. I'm a toe. (And honestly, I have no idea what body part we correspond to, but we are different. lol) I'm praying for God's will in that situation, but I've already learned God rarely ever does it the way I expect him to.

I have ignored those who frustrate me past my tolerance levels, (as in temporary ignore, until God tells me to get over it), I have become more thoughtful in what I write, I've made peace with others, and I walk when I need to walk. (Those are permanent ignores -- or, at least long-term, just in case God does his thing on the situation.)

If you're expecting us to do it the way you're doing it, it's not going to happen like that. Give God time to work with each of us. Give us the time to walk the walk, trip along the way, and maybe even have a little pout here in there. If God ever intended us to get it right immediately, we'd be right immediately.

You didn't lose. You didn't fail. You're expecting angels out of humans. Even the apostles didn't get it right all the time. You were heard. For those who listened, we're giving it our best effort, but even there you've got to know it's impossible to maintain best. Better, with God's help, is going to have to do until the return of Christ.