SCOTUS upholds constitutional right to SSM, forces all states to recognize SSM

[3Scoreand10]

Plus there is already a false new age movement in the church who allow this s.s.m......

Ken, I think you mis-spoke with this statement.

Surey you do not believe God would call these wicked people a part of His family.

 

[kaylagrl]

God says "One man, one woman" these autonomous bozos say "otherwise".
I have no more respect regarding this %$@&¥€.

The man sitting in the presidency right now is a bold faced liar.When the Bible was talking about deceiving spirits this was seen in the future.

 

[atwhatcost]

I was just watching Fox News when the decision came down. Link to follow.

I don't come on this forum because I'm not very good at being kind with my political opinions.

This seems like a good time not to be.

I think Democrats are downright destructive. (This ruling is just one example. The debacle in the Middle East another. Obamacare another. Did you know Obama care IS a big part of the reason VA hospitals can't keep up? He dumped another 10% to the roles of those who could get help, but never added the money to pay for it.)

I think Republicans are useless.

They won't make a law against this. They won't turn back the clocks on universal health coverage, (and for anyone outside the US, please understand Obamacare is NOT universal healthcare. It's a law ordering us all to get health insurance, or we get fined for not having it.) Just like they never fixed Roe V. Wade.

They will just ask us to vote for them on these issues and then never do a damn thing about it once elected. Stupid thing -- we'll vote them in anyway -- again and again and again.

We've been on a slippery slope for years. We JUST slide off the cliff!

(See what I mean? I'm not good at kindness when it comes to politics. There is no kindness to be had in that field. The best we can do now is duck and pray. I'm pretty sure God just condemned the US to the realms of Rome, Egypt, Mayans, and Russia. We were something. Now we're headed toward extinction.)

 

[crossnote]

​Any pastor saying they will not marry a gay couple will be treated as less than human,a bigot and worse.The news will "out" him or her.He will have death threats and fear for his life.Under those circumstances it will take a very strong person to stand against that.It wont take the govt to force it.

Oh gee, I thought the homosexual community was all for love and live and let live

 

[KennethC]

Ken, I think you mis-spoke with this statement.

Surey you do not believe God would call these wicked people a part of His family.

No I didn't misspeak as you can see I said, "false new age movement in the church."
False meaning not teaching the true gospel, and lower case c for the church showing a false denomination !!!

 

[kaylagrl]

I don't come on this forum because I'm not very good at being kind with my political opinions.

This seems like a good time not to be.

I think Democrats are downright destructive. (This ruling is just one example. The debacle in the Middle East another. Obamacare another. Did you know Obama care IS a big part of the reason VA hospitals can't keep up? He dumped another 10% to the roles of those who could get help, but never added the money to pay for it.)

I think Republicans are useless.

They won't make a law against this. They won't turn back the clocks on universal health coverage, (and for anyone outside the US, please understand Obamacare is NOT universal healthcare. It's a law ordering us all to get health insurance, or we get fined for not having it.) Just like they never fixed Roe V. Wade.

They will just ask us to vote for them on these issues and then never do a damn thing about it once elected. Stupid thing -- we'll vote them in anyway -- again and again and again.

We've been on a slippery slope for years. We JUST slide off the cliff!

(See what I mean? I'm not good at kindness when it comes to politics. There is no kindness to be had in that field. The best we can do now is duck and pray. I'm pretty sure God just condemned the US to the realms of Rome, Egypt, Mayans, and Russia. We were something. Now we're headed toward extinction.)

I dont know about kindness but you nailed it,sad to say.

 

[KennethC]

What makes you think that isn't the next item on their agenda?

Don't say "the church" because it is not in "the church." There are organizations that claim to be churches, who claim to have pastors, who claim to teach God's word. All three are lies. New Age beliefs automatically disqualify any group from calling itself part of the Body of Christ.

There is a big difference in the church (building made by man), and the Church (body of believers in Christ.......

When I use a lower case c it is referring only to a building which is not the true Church, and when I use the capitol C then I am referring to the true Church which is the body of believers..........

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

God says "One man, one woman" these autonomous bozos say "otherwise".
I have no more respect regarding this %$@&¥€.

Roberts wholeheartedly agrees with that. He's going to be vilified by the LGBTs for this section of his opinion:

ROBERTS, C.J. dissenting (pp. 43, 44 of total SCOTUS document)

As the majority acknowledges, marriage “has existed for millennia and across civilizations.” Ante, at 3. For all those millennia, across all those civilizations, “marriage” referred to only one relationship: the union of a man and a woman [ . . . ]

This universal definition of marriage as the union of a man and a woman is no historical coincidence. Marriage did not come about as a result of a political movement, discovery, disease, war, religious doctrine, or any other moving force of world history—and certainly not as a result of a prehistoric decision to exclude gays and lesbians. It arose in the nature of things to meet a vital need: ensuring that children are conceived by a mother and father committed to raising them in the stable conditions of a lifelong relationship [ . . . ]

The premises supporting this concept of marriage are so fundamental that they rarely require articulation. The human race must procreate to survive. Procreation occurs through sexual relations between a man and a woman. When sexual relations result in the conception of a child, that child’s prospects are generally better if the mother and father stay together rather than going their separate ways. Therefore, for the good of children and society, sexual relations that can lead to procreation should occur only between a man and a woman committed to a lasting bond.

It's hard to believe this is the same man who wrote that ridiculous opinion released yesterday.

 

[3Scoreand10]

I don't come on this forum because I'm not very good at being kind with my political opinions.

This seems like a good time not to be.

I think Democrats are downright destructive. (This ruling is just one example. The debacle in the Middle East another. Obamacare another. Did you know Obama care IS a big part of the reason VA hospitals can't keep up? He dumped another 10% to the roles of those who could get help, but never added the money to pay for it.)

I think Republicans are useless.

They won't make a law against this. They won't turn back the clocks on universal health coverage, (and for anyone outside the US, please understand Obamacare is NOT universal healthcare. It's a law ordering us all to get health insurance, or we get fined for not having it.) Just like they never fixed Roe V. Wade.

They will just ask us to vote for them on these issues and then never do a damn thing about it once elected. Stupid thing -- we'll vote them in anyway -- again and again and again.

We've been on a slippery slope for years. We JUST slide off the cliff!

(See what I mean? I'm not good at kindness when it comes to politics. There is no kindness to be had in that field. The best we can do now is duck and pray. I'm pretty sure God just condemned the US to the realms of Rome, Egypt, Mayans, and Russia. We were something. Now we're headed toward extinction.)

I thought you were very kind.
You spoke he truth.

 

[atwhatcost]

​Any pastor saying they will not marry a gay couple will be treated as less than human,a bigot and worse.The news will "out" him or her.He will have death threats and fear for his life.Under those circumstances it will take a very strong person to stand against that.It wont take the govt to force it.

Will be? They've already been. No they have the Supremes as their backup group!

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

There is a big difference in the church (building made by man), and the Church (body of believers in Christ.......

In reading your previous post, you seemed to have difficulty in differentiating between them. Sorry if I misunderstood.

When I use a lower case c it is referring only to a building which is not the true Church, and when I use the capitol C then I am referring to the true Church which is the body of believers..........

Perhaps it might be advisable, then, not to use the word "the" with a small "c" church? Just a thought ...

 

[atwhatcost]

There is a big difference in the church (building made by man), and the Church (body of believers in Christ.......

When I use a lower case c it is referring only to a building which is not the true Church, and when I use the capitol C then I am referring to the true Church which is the body of believers..........

Yup, I got that because I do the same thing.

 

[KennethC]

​Any pastor saying they will not marry a gay couple will be treated as less than human,a bigot and worse.The news will "out" him or her.He will have death threats and fear for his life.Under those circumstances it will take a very strong person to stand against that.It wont take the govt to force it.

I don't deny those things will happen, but in order for it to be enforced to make pastor's marry these people is the constitutional right to freedom of religion will first have to be taken away. If a pastor gives in and marries these people any way do to fear of his life then they will be violating a direct command by the Lord to not fear those who can only kill the body, but fear God who can destroy the body and soul in the lake of fire.

The bible makes it very clear that we have to keep our faith and endure such things to come in order to be saved, and to the contrary this does not only apply to those in the tribulation period. As Matthew 10:22 was given directly to the 12 Apostles and those of us who follow. Even Apostle Paul more than once said we have to keep the faith in order to receive eternal life....

 

[gb9]

well the gay agenda has officially been shoved down our throats. and I feel like throwing up. dark dark day for us.

 

[atwhatcost]

Roberts wholeheartedly agrees with that. He's going to be vilified by the LGBTs for this section of his opinion:

It's hard to believe this is the same man who wrote that ridiculous opinion released yesterday.

We have far, far left, far left, and "centrist." on the court. "Centrist" is just a nice way of saying "the left from the 60's and 70's version of the word."

Same logic puts Chris Christy as a top guy to run for the Republicans. The left can take him because he's not really conservative. He's libertarian.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

​Any pastor saying they will not marry a gay couple will be treated as less than human,a bigot and worse.The news will "out" him or her.He will have death threats and fear for his life.Under those circumstances it will take a very strong person to stand against that.It wont take the govt to force it.

Absolutely right. Anyone who thinks that isn't going to be possible doesn't realize how militantly and aggressively the LGBT movement, as well as the vast majority of media that support them, will use this decision to force acceptance without criticism of their lifestyle.

They won't go to the pastors whom they know will perform the ceremony. They will go to the ones they know will not, and the "witch hunt" will be underway.

 

[crossnote]

Roberts wholeheartedly agrees with that. He's going to be vilified by the LGBTs for this section of his opinion:

It's hard to believe this is the same man who wrote that ridiculous opinion released yesterday.

It's too bad he can't speak of God as the source, instead of history of civilization. That seems to be the inbuilt Achilles Heel of any democratic republic.

 

[KennethC]

In reading your previous post, you seemed to have difficulty in differentiating between them. Sorry if I misunderstood.

Perhaps it might be advisable, then, not to use the word "the" with a small "c" church? Just a thought ...

No I don't have an issue in differentiating between the two, but I have talked to some on here that do have this problem.
Because some taken and believe the Church is the building they go to, but that is actually only just a title given to the building to confuse people. The true Church is the body of believers in Christ, and can be held in a house, tent, building, in a field, or wherever.

Some Catholics have this wrong outlook as some branches still teach that unless you are in the Catholic church you are not saved. Placing their denominational building above the true body of Christ !!!

A church building is still a church building no matter what they teach, and people need to be shown the truth to take the focus off the building they go to and put it to where the true Church really is. This is one thing the Apostle Paul mentioned and knew would come to pass also, and that is people stating that they are this or that and not that they are in Christ.

Back in his days people were going around saying I am of Apollos, or I am of Cephas, and so on.....

This is now happening today with people saying, I am of the Baptist, I am of the Protestant, I am of the Catholic, and so on and so on............People have taken and put their focus to much on the denomination they belong to !!!

I don't know how many times I have asked others how were they baptized, and the majority of the time they said their denomination instead of in Jesus name !!!

 

[youmustrepent]

Now if I want to have many wives or marry objects or anything, anyone, any number of things or persons the door is open. Where does it end? It doesn't. If man decides what is right or wrong then it is all subjective and no one's opinion is of more value than anyone else's. If you disagree you are an intolerant ,bigoted, judgmental hater.
This was to be expected.

 

[crossnote]

I don't deny those things will happen, but in order for it to be enforced to make pastor's marry these people is the constitutional right to freedom of religion will first have to be taken away. If a pastor gives in and marries these people any way do to fear of his life then they will be violating a direct command by the Lord to not fear those who can only kill the body, but fear God who can destroy the body and soul in the lake of fire.

The bible makes it very clear that we have to keep our faith and endure such things to come in order to be saved, and to the contrary this does not only apply to those in the tribulation period. As Matthew 10:22 was given directly to the 12 Apostles and those of us who follow. Even Apostle Paul more than once said we have to keep the faith in order to receive eternal life....

In order to be saved? Well that's another topic for the BDF