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Where else would a Millenium be? In heaven? A 1000-year reign of Christ with co-kings on earth before the new heavens and new earth-------what does that detract or distract from? Is it.............beneath the Lord's dignity? A 1000-year reign doesn't detract from salvation, from justification, regeneration, sanctification, transformation, and conformation; from glorification and the Body of Christ; from the New Jerusalem as symbol of God's consummate design. Does it? It distracts you?
To the contrary of your study on this: John the apostle mentions it 6 times explicitly in Revelation 20. Precisely time-wise where it fits. If I or you disagree with that, the burden rests on us, in court-terms, to interpret it 'correctly.' To say '1000 years' really means 2000 years, or however long the New Testament age will be, how is that not a gross misinterpretation?
What's so gross----so outlandish and heathen or carnal----to interpret 1000 years in Revelation 20 to mean 1000-years reign with Christ, on this old earth (which He restores), over the nations which remain (Mt 25), before the new heavens and the new earth? Is it that someone wouldn't do things that way if they were God?
Peter also mentions the restoration of all things in Acts. And Isaiah describes the end of the curse on plant life and the animals lying down together, an infant playing with an asp. Paul in Romans refers to creation eagerly awaiting the manifestation of the sons of God, creation having been made subject to vanity. You may not preach or proclaim such a thing, maybe because you don't understand it. But why oppose it as if, seemingly, it itself opposes the gospel or God?
To the contrary of your study on this: John the apostle mentions it 6 times explicitly in Revelation 20. Precisely time-wise where it fits. If I or you disagree with that, the burden rests on us, in court-terms, to interpret it 'correctly.' To say '1000 years' really means 2000 years, or however long the New Testament age will be, how is that not a gross misinterpretation?
What's so gross----so outlandish and heathen or carnal----to interpret 1000 years in Revelation 20 to mean 1000-years reign with Christ, on this old earth (which He restores), over the nations which remain (Mt 25), before the new heavens and the new earth? Is it that someone wouldn't do things that way if they were God?
Peter also mentions the restoration of all things in Acts. And Isaiah describes the end of the curse on plant life and the animals lying down together, an infant playing with an asp. Paul in Romans refers to creation eagerly awaiting the manifestation of the sons of God, creation having been made subject to vanity. You may not preach or proclaim such a thing, maybe because you don't understand it. But why oppose it as if, seemingly, it itself opposes the gospel or God?
why not take the fuller context? ...
Romans 2:17-29 (KJV)
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
It's simply comparing unbelieving Jews with believing Jews (true Jews). No where does he call a believing Gentile a true Jew.
Romans 2:17-29 (KJV)
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
It's simply comparing unbelieving Jews with believing Jews (true Jews). No where does he call a believing Gentile a true Jew.
This is where I disagree.
The modern "Jews" are not born into Israel, but Babylon. They are Gentiles by birth, because their parents were cast out of their Tribe upon their unbelief in the Son.
No one born of outcasts is considered born into Judah.
I do believe in the Remnant, but I doubt they consider themselves Jews in any way.
They are the firstborn sons of the firstborn sons of those Hebrews that accepted Christ, with a lineage of Faith AND bloodline.
No one born of "Jewish" lineage is part of the Remnant, as we came out of the paganism of our parents Judaism.
The OT makes "citizenship" clear. And also the rules for casting ones out of the Camp. All those who claim Judaism are outside of the Camp, because they reject the Son, and therefore reject the Father,
and their children are born as outcasts, and are to be considered as Gentiles.
A True Jew is one born of Spirit, and made the Bride of Christ. Christ IS the True Jew, and we are made one with Him.
Don't pretend to understand Zechariah when you don't even understand Israel. He speaks of a different Israel than the media tells you about.
Surely, God has kept 12k from each Tribe,
and kept them
and their entire lineage,
saved by Faith through Grace.
The 144k has been kept pure, by birth, Birth, bloodline, Faith, and Seed.
No one born of Judaism can claim this, as they were born into apostasy.
Why do I return to Israel bi-yearly? Not to find the Remnant! But to preach to the lost who have been lied to about their lineage, and their "God", and their position before the True God, and their need for Christ.
This is why Set-Apart Ministries has such a powerful conversion rate in Israel: because we do not coddle "Jews" by pretending they have "half the message" (as my WoL friends minister[unsuccessfully] while in Israel),
but give them the Word as it stands. They have NONE of the message, and need to hear the True Message.
They inherited the faith of Ishmael from their parents. We show them the Faith of Isaac.
The modern "Jews" are not born into Israel, but Babylon. They are Gentiles by birth, because their parents were cast out of their Tribe upon their unbelief in the Son.
No one born of outcasts is considered born into Judah.
I do believe in the Remnant, but I doubt they consider themselves Jews in any way.
They are the firstborn sons of the firstborn sons of those Hebrews that accepted Christ, with a lineage of Faith AND bloodline.
No one born of "Jewish" lineage is part of the Remnant, as we came out of the paganism of our parents Judaism.
The OT makes "citizenship" clear. And also the rules for casting ones out of the Camp. All those who claim Judaism are outside of the Camp, because they reject the Son, and therefore reject the Father,
and their children are born as outcasts, and are to be considered as Gentiles.
A True Jew is one born of Spirit, and made the Bride of Christ. Christ IS the True Jew, and we are made one with Him.
Don't pretend to understand Zechariah when you don't even understand Israel. He speaks of a different Israel than the media tells you about.
Surely, God has kept 12k from each Tribe,
and kept them
and their entire lineage,
saved by Faith through Grace.
The 144k has been kept pure, by birth, Birth, bloodline, Faith, and Seed.
No one born of Judaism can claim this, as they were born into apostasy.
Why do I return to Israel bi-yearly? Not to find the Remnant! But to preach to the lost who have been lied to about their lineage, and their "God", and their position before the True God, and their need for Christ.
This is why Set-Apart Ministries has such a powerful conversion rate in Israel: because we do not coddle "Jews" by pretending they have "half the message" (as my WoL friends minister[unsuccessfully] while in Israel),
but give them the Word as it stands. They have NONE of the message, and need to hear the True Message.
They inherited the faith of Ishmael from their parents. We show them the Faith of Isaac.