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It was a sign of the Old Covenant. Christians are not under the Old Covenant.
A sign is not a moral absolute.
Moses was nearly killed by God for not circumcising his son, which was another sign under the Old Covenant, as well as the Abrahamic Covenant. No one who has a basic knowledge of Scripture thinks Christians must get physically circumcised.
The Moses event was recorded in Exodus 4:24-26.
A sign is not a moral absolute.
Moses was nearly killed by God for not circumcising his son, which was another sign under the Old Covenant, as well as the Abrahamic Covenant. No one who has a basic knowledge of Scripture thinks Christians must get physically circumcised.
The Moses event was recorded in Exodus 4:24-26.
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For all you who are not "enlightened", what john832 is saying here is that you are all spiritually deceived by the world's system, and will receive an opportunity for salvation at the end of the Millennium.
Armstrongites believe that everyone besides them are spiritually deceived, and are following a "counterfeit Christianity" which observes Sunday instead of the Sabbath.
You all receive your opportunity for salvation at the end of the Millenium in a second life called "the judgment". But for now, you are "so-called Christians" who follow a Satanic counterfeit version of Christianity typified by Sunday observance.
prove-all follows the same theology. Don't let them fool you. They are the product of Herbert Armstrong's cult, of which I was a part of for 10 plus years.
Armstrongites believe that everyone besides them are spiritually deceived, and are following a "counterfeit Christianity" which observes Sunday instead of the Sabbath.
You all receive your opportunity for salvation at the end of the Millenium in a second life called "the judgment". But for now, you are "so-called Christians" who follow a Satanic counterfeit version of Christianity typified by Sunday observance.
prove-all follows the same theology. Don't let them fool you. They are the product of Herbert Armstrong's cult, of which I was a part of for 10 plus years.
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No Christian thinks like you are portraying them. Your arguments are straw men.
Regeneration changes the nature of the person so they want to obey God.
The question is, what does God want them to obey? Not ceremonial and ritualistic elements of a law that was given to Ancient Israel.
The Old Covenant is done away with. The Old Covenant contained moral absolutes and they are still applicable, but not because they are part of the Old Covenant. They are applicable because they are moral absolutes. In addition, there are many commands within the Gospels and apostolic writings that comprise the Christian duty.
The question is, obedience to what? And the answer is the above, and not ceremonial and ritualistic elements of the Old Covenant like the Sabbath, holy days, clean and unclean meat laws, triple tithing and physical circumcision.
Regeneration changes the nature of the person so they want to obey God.
The question is, what does God want them to obey? Not ceremonial and ritualistic elements of a law that was given to Ancient Israel.
The Old Covenant is done away with. The Old Covenant contained moral absolutes and they are still applicable, but not because they are part of the Old Covenant. They are applicable because they are moral absolutes. In addition, there are many commands within the Gospels and apostolic writings that comprise the Christian duty.
The question is, obedience to what? And the answer is the above, and not ceremonial and ritualistic elements of the Old Covenant like the Sabbath, holy days, clean and unclean meat laws, triple tithing and physical circumcision.
the bible says the devil is the god of this current evil earth, and the world is decieved.
do you not believe the bible with your own eyes?
do you want bible verses about church taken over from within , and many like verses?
have I ever said i believed you where unsaved , except my last remark to you, please forgive for saying,
I am not anyones judge
do you not believe the bible with your own eyes?
do you want bible verses about church taken over from within , and many like verses?
have I ever said i believed you where unsaved , except my last remark to you, please forgive for saying,
I am not anyones judge
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As you and I both know, the false doctrines of Armstrongism are much worse than the denial of the bodily resurrection. In fact, Armstrongism teaches that Armstrongites are Gods in embryo and will be members of God's literal family in the resurrection...fully God. That is part of why you deny the Trinity..because you believe God is a family into which you will be born as a literal son.
As to the bodily resurrection and how Herbert Armstrong denied it, you can see a good summary on this website:
Mystery of the Ages (a critical review)
As to the bodily resurrection and how Herbert Armstrong denied it, you can see a good summary on this website:
Mystery of the Ages (a critical review)
I had a great sabbath rest today. Now I'm refreshed, and ready for anther 6 days of hard work. I love worshipping Yahweh, and it's good t know that the sabbath is here to stay. Although the world despises God's commandments, I love them, and can never forget them because the Father has written them on my heart, that I may remember. Halleluyah!
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The whole world is deceived. If you took that to include everyone, though, that means you are deceived too, right?
Does a deceived person know he's deceived? Obviously not, or he wouldn't be deceived.
This whole Sabbathkeeping thing is a complicated deception and it is hard to get disentangled from it. In fact, I don't think it can be done without the power of the Holy Spirit to see the error.
I challenge you to read Dale Ratzlaff's book Sabbath in Christ. Even if you think I am deceived, you should read it to make sure you are not.
Does a deceived person know he's deceived? Obviously not, or he wouldn't be deceived.
This whole Sabbathkeeping thing is a complicated deception and it is hard to get disentangled from it. In fact, I don't think it can be done without the power of the Holy Spirit to see the error.
I challenge you to read Dale Ratzlaff's book Sabbath in Christ. Even if you think I am deceived, you should read it to make sure you are not.
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Believers are adopted children of God and will reign with Christ. In fact, they already are.
To claim that believers will be literal children of God, like Jesus Christ, is the deception. At some level we will be, but not ontologically. That is what Satan promised Adam and Eve..that they would be like God.
To claim that believers will be literal children of God, like Jesus Christ, is the deception. At some level we will be, but not ontologically. That is what Satan promised Adam and Eve..that they would be like God.