Christian music

[KennethC]

Why do I constantly see people claim that christian rappers and christian rock bands are actually satanic? A couple years ago I heard a band called Skillet (If you don't know them, they are a christian rock band) and just recently saw them live in concert at spirit song. During the concert, after every couple song, the lead singer would stop and give a quick sermon and talk about Jesus. So then a few minutes ago I see this guy trying to convince people that rap and rock is the devil's music. First thing I'd like to say is this: The devil's music seems to change every few years. How long before country music is the devil's music? How long before Dolly Parton is 'revealed' to be worshipping Satan? So this guy shows this interview, and you can barely hear what the band is saying, then he starts telling you what they said. Then he's saying Metallica, Iron Maiden, Def Leppard, and Queen are all openly Satanic rock bands. Give me any shred of evidence that any of those bands are satanic. Just because they don't identify as christian bands doesn't make them satanic. So why does everybody feel the need to try and tell people that very openly christian musicians are actually satanic? Thoughts?

The type of music does not make it satanic, it is the words that are said in them that make them that way or not......


Their is Christian Rock, Christian Rap, Christian Heavy Metal, Christian Gospel, and so on that all are still done in respectful manner. If anybody tells you that the kind of music matters then they are wrong, if the context or words of the song are still about love, forgiveness, praise of God !!!

 

[dcontroversal]

So a believer will always be in sin because of 1 John 1:8? How exactly are we to be the light that is not to have fellowship with darkness if that is the case?

You know Jason as you always do you assume much, add to what was said and disregard the truth....NO where did I say what you just implied and that is why you will never understand.....you cannot get past your own pre-concieved ideas and dogma to listen to what anyone states or says....

 

[mwc68]

Christian who used to be an atheist as a part of a Heavy Metal Band (Chooses not to play Heavy Metal again).

[VIDEO=youtube;v-O494e_UOc]https://youtu.be/v-O494e_UOc[/VIDEO]

Did you watch this video? He is making my point for me beautifully! A lot of Heavy Metal musicians are being saved and channeling the music back to God. The artist even said he has another band focused on Jesus! ( By the way, i am an ACCEPT fan and thank you for this story!)

 

[dcontroversal]

Well I would have to disagree with your statement here as you have made numerous false judgments on me !!!

I dont judge your life Kenneth, just what you teach and I see you ignored everything I just said..especially the words trying and NOT to condemn someone's life....so....keep working your way to heaven and doing unto others exactly as you accuse them of doing!

 

[Jason0047]

The type of music does not make it satanic, it is the words that are said in them that make them that way or not......


Their is Christian Rock, Christian Rap, Christian Heavy Metal, Christian Gospel, and so on that all are still done in respectful manner. If anybody tells you that the kind of music matters then they are wrong, if the context or words of the song are still about love, forgiveness, praise of God !!!

I disagree. Heavy Metal music just sounds evil. I mean, would you play such music at a person's wedding or their son's graduation? It is not loving and uplifting in the slightest way. It is very aggressive type music and studies have shown that it has brought down people's moods and made them worse in attitude.

 

[Gr8grace]

The example and the topic at hand... are not relevant to one another.

How do you see a difference between a preachers yelling and a singer yelling?
It is the message that matters.
A soft spoken preacher can fill the room with excitement, if the words are Truth.
Just the same as a screaming preacher.
Just the same as the Word sung by a boy choir,
And the Word sung by a passionately yelling youth.

There is no logic behind your argument, and no Spirit behind the rebuke.
Getting out of secular music is one thing.
Tearing out the wheat with the tares is another.

You are wise beyond your years brother.


Its the message not the man.

 

[Jason0047]

Did you watch this video? He is making my point for me beautifully! A lot of Heavy Metal musicians are being saved and channeling the music back to God. The artist even said he has another band focused on Jesus! ( By the way, i am an ACCEPT fan and thank you for this story!)

He is not currently playing Heavy Metal anymore. That's kind of the point.

 

[Jason0047]

You know Jason as you always do you assume much, add to what was said and disregard the truth....NO where did I say what you just implied and that is why you will never understand.....you cannot get past your own pre-concieved ideas and dogma to listen to what anyone states or says....

Then why don't you explain it nice and slow for me instead of insulting me?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Some say as long as the words are focused on GOD then it's alright but what about the anointing.
I remember one time I was in church and one our pastors was singing with the choir and he can't hold a note, but that night I felt the anointing in his voice and tears started running.

 

[KennethC]

I dont judge your life Kenneth, just what you teach and I see you ignored everything I just said..especially the words trying and NOT to condemn someone's life....so....keep working your way to heaven and doing unto others exactly as you accuse them of doing!

Judging is judging Dcon even if you want to try and to worm around it.

Then there you go again with that false allegation I have asked you to stop, for I do not preach on working my way to heaven.
I teach on keeping the faith to receive salvation, BIG DIFFERENCE !!!

I am not passing false accusations toward you Dcon, as what I have said you have done to me and others, and your own post right here shows this continuation of false witnessing against me. I do not instruct of preach works to earn salvation, the works I defend is the one's that comes from the fruits of the Spirit through believers .

The bible clearly says those fruits will be in all true believers and they will be full of them, not just have one or a couple, and the Lord is the one that said no fruit produced in an individual they will be cut off and burned (John 15:2).

 

[dcontroversal]

Then why don't you explain it nice and slow for me instead of insulting me?

I did explain it as I have numerous times Jason and you insert some preconceived idea.....instead of being easily offended just take the constructive criticism...

1. Jesus spoke of the conflict between the born again spirit and the weak flesh
2. Paul spoke of the conflict between the always willing spirit and weak flesh
3. John wrote of the spirit that does'nt sin and the flesh which occasionally does
4. Many writers testified of the sin that they have while still being saved
5. Daniel was righteous yet confessed his sin
6. Noah was righteous yet got drunk and sinned
7. Abraham was saved and of faith yet was deceptive about Sarah to save his own hide
8. Paul testified of the law that sin was PRESENTwith him when he does to do good

Over and over again...there is ample proof that we will struggle with sin until the day our bodies are redeemed AND MADE NEW.....THE BEST WE CAN DO IS SUPPRESS the body of sin and manage it dia confession and repentance when we sin...no one is above or without sin...even ONE sin is still sin!

 

[mwc68]

I disagree. Heavy Metal music just sounds evil. I mean, would you play such music at a person's wedding or their son's graduation? It is not loving and uplifting in the slightest way. It is very aggressive type music and studies have shown that it has brought down people's moods and made them worse in attitude.

Stryper was played at my wedding and will be played at my funeral. Be careful with your generalizations.

 

[KennethC]

I disagree. Heavy Metal music just sounds evil. I mean, would you play such music at a person's wedding or their son's graduation? It is not loving and uplifting in the slightest way. It is very aggressive type music and studies have shown that it has brought down people's moods and made them worse in attitude.

Just because it sounds that way does not mean it is !!!

There are many Heavy Metal Christian bands out there that their lyrics are all about praising God and the Lord our Savior.
If a person requested music from a Christian band no matter what genre it was then yes I would play it at a wedding or graduation.

All music that is respectful in the lyrics is pleasing to the Lord !!!

As for your studies go I would call that baloney because I know of a number of people who listen to Christian Heavy Metal and there moods are not made worse and brought down. They were actually just the opposite !!!

I think you are confusing heavy metal with death metal Jason !!!

 

[MultilingualMessenger]

I disagree. Heavy Metal music just sounds evil. I mean, would you play such music at a person's wedding or their son's graduation? It is not loving and uplifting in the slightest way. It is very aggressive type music and studies have shown that it has brought down people's moods and made them worse in attitude.

There's a difference between it being unfit for the occasion and it being evil though. I wouldn't play cinematic music or video game soundtracks at a wedding either, but they're not evil. Evil is in what something promotes.

There are some songs out there that give me an unsettling feeling, so I get that part of what you're saying. But even then, I don't regard the genre of said songs as evil. *shrug*

 

[LT]

Heavy metal "sounds evil" is just the type of scientific proof that I needed to change my ways.

Btw, I rarely ever listen to metal. I used to listen to hard rock.
Now I usually listen to praise and worship music, which spans from gospel to pop to folk to post-rock (love post-rock sound) to numetal to country to tribal to blues.

What you associate sounds with has to do with personal experience, not actuality.
You connect those sounds with "evil", but they are not intrinsically there.

 

[dcontroversal]

Judging is judging Dcon even if you want to try and to worm around it.

Then there you go again with that false allegation I have asked you to stop, for I do not preach on working my way to heaven.
I teach on keeping the faith to receive salvation, BIG DIFFERENCE !!!

I am not passing false accusations toward you Dcon, as what I have said you have done to me and others, and your own post right here shows this continuation of false witnessing against me. I do not instruct of preach works to earn salvation, the works I defend is the one's that comes from the fruits of the Spirit through believers .

The bible clearly says those fruits will be in all true believers and they will be full of them, not just have one or a couple, and the Lord is the one that said no fruit produced in an individual they will be cut off and burned (John 15:2).

What ever Kenneth and my post stands and no matter how you slice and dice you teach works..period....and to judge one's teachig is not to judge their life...so wake up to the truth....by the way....Walmart sells formula and huggies

 

[mwc68]

Stryper was played at my wedding and will be played at my funeral. Be careful with your generalizations.

The song played at my wedding was "Together as One" and the song that will be played at my funeral is "Together Forever" i encourage all of you to listen to these songs and the message portrayed

 

[LT]

Test the mood of someone listening to Stryper, and one listening to Beyonce.
The one listening to Beyonce will be "happier" in mood.... and yet also be listening to satanic lyrics.
Who knew, right?
Mood and edification... Not the same.

 

[KennethC]

What ever Kenneth and my post stands and no matter how you slice and dice you teach works..period....and to judge one's teachig is not to judge their life...so wake up to the truth....by the way....Walmart sells formula and huggies

There you go again belittling and demeaning in nature that is from the flesh, not the fruits of the Spirit !!!

When are you going to start believing Paul, James, and John that one's walk goes hand and hand with faith for salvation ???
All 3 of those witnesses in the bible showed how one can and can not walk in the faith, and by how one treats and calls names toward others is not of God. For belittling and demeaning does not come from love !!!

And how many times does Paul have to say and show salvation is only given to those who continue in the faith ???

The bible also shows a true faith is an active faith, as a non-active faith is a dead faith !!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Judging is judging Dcon even if you want to try and to worm around it.

Then there you go again with that false allegation I have asked you to stop, for I do not preach on working my way to heaven.
I teach on keeping the faith to receive salvation, BIG DIFFERENCE !!!

I am not passing false accusations toward you Dcon, as what I have said you have done to me and others, and your own post right here shows this continuation of false witnessing against me. I do not instruct of preach works to earn salvation, the works I defend is the one's that comes from the fruits of the Spirit through believers .

The bible clearly says those fruits will be in all true believers and they will be full of them, not just have one or a couple, and the Lord is the one that said no fruit produced in an individual they will be cut off and burned (John 15:2).

Is a piece of fruit fruit? Can you tell an apple tree if it has one apple on it? You should revamp your belief...the only tree Jesus cursed was void of ALL fruit...had it had ONE fig on it he would have harvested and ate...wake up!