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KennethC

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There you go again belittling and demeaning in nature that is from the flesh, not the fruits of the Spirit !!!

When are you going to start believing Paul, James, and John that one's walk goes hand and hand with faith for salvation ???
All 3 of those witnesses in the bible showed how one can and can not walk in the faith, and by how one treats and calls names toward others is not of God. For belittling and demeaning does not come from love !!!

And how many times does Paul have to say and show salvation is only given to those who continue in the faith ???

The bible also shows a true faith is an active faith, as a non-active faith is a dead faith !!!

Plus the bible says judge nothing tell the Lord returns...................1 Corinthians 4:5
 
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Judging is judging Dcon even if you want to try and to worm around it.

Then there you go again with that false allegation I have asked you to stop, for I do not preach on working my way to heaven.
I teach on keeping the faith to receive salvation, BIG DIFFERENCE !!!

I am not passing false accusations toward you Dcon, as what I have said you have done to me and others, and your own post right here shows this continuation of false witnessing against me. I do not instruct of preach works to earn salvation, the works I defend is the one's that comes from the fruits of the Spirit through believers .

The bible clearly says those fruits will be in all true believers and they will be full of them, not just have one or a couple, and the Lord is the one that said no fruit produced in an individual they will be cut off and burned (John 15:2).
Ken the way I read your posts and your theology..........You teach works for salvation. I don't see how anyone can read it in any other way.

If you truly don't believe in works for salvation, It doesn't show in how you express it.

Works for salvation is ALL I see in your posts. Maybe it is the way you explain it?
 
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There you go again belittling and demeaning in nature that is from the flesh, not the fruits of the Spirit !!!

When are you going to start believing Paul, James, and John that one's walk goes hand and hand with faith for salvation ???
All 3 of those witnesses in the bible showed how one can and can not walk in the faith, and by how one treats and calls names toward others is not of God. For belittling and demeaning does not come from love !!!

And how many times does Paul have to say and show salvation is only given to those who continue in the faith ???

The bible also shows a true faith is an active faith, as a non-active faith is a dead faith !!!
HAHAHA you need to lighten up...I didnt belittle you nor did I demean you.....I have never in my life seen someone so easily offended...oh wait..there is one or two and you all claim works and the ability to lose salvation...you know a sign of spiritual maturity is not being esily offended...are you saved and spiritually mature? Maybe that is the problem....one who believes they can lose it must do something to gain or keep it which is believing in a gospel of a different kind....Kenneth..do you know the Lord as your savior according to faith and grace? And if so, why are you not spiritually mature and not easily offended? Just asking...so dont get upset now....!
 
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Plus the bible says judge nothing tell the Lord returns...................1 Corinthians 4:5
Then why do you judge me and make it a point to put your nose in posts that are not even directed at you?
 
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KennethC

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Is a piece of fruit fruit? Can you tell an apple tree if it has one apple on it? You should revamp your belief...the only tree Jesus cursed was void of ALL fruit...had it had ONE fig on it he would have harvested and ate...wake up!
What does the bible say about the few good works done by some, if there life is driven by mostly bad deeds ???

It shows those who continue to do unrightousness or continuing in lewdness, He says;

Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

These here thought they had salvation and even pleaded with the Lord that they did the things He had commanded, but the Lord told them He never knew them because they continued to walk in their sins (iniquity).
 
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EdisonTrent

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There you go again belittling and demeaning in nature that is from the flesh, not the fruits of the Spirit !!!

When are you going to start believing Paul, James, and John that one's walk goes hand and hand with faith for salvation ???
All 3 of those witnesses in the bible showed how one can and can not walk in the faith, and by how one treats and calls names toward others is not of God. For belittling and demeaning does not come from love !!!

And how many times does Paul have to say and show salvation is only given to those who continue in the faith ???

The bible also shows a true faith is an active faith, as a non-active faith is a dead faith !!!
what was Paul's witness in the bible?
 
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What does the bible say about the few good works done by some, if there life is driven by mostly bad deeds ???

It shows those who continue to do unrightousness or continuing in lewdness, He says;

Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

These here thought they had salvation and even pleaded with the Lord that they did the things He had commanded, but the Lord told them He never knew them because they continued to walk in their sins (iniquity).
Now you adding to the word....I have read that numerous times and the (because they continued to walk in sins) is your addition....He never knew them because they taught works for salvation and trusted into their works for salvation instead of Jesus...goes right along with those teaching the false gospel of faith and works for salvation that Paul rebukes in the letter to the Galatian brethern!
 
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KennethC

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Then why do you judge me and make it a point to put your nose in posts that are not even directed at you?

I don't judge you Dcon and please understand the difference between judging and biblical rebuking.

When I show you from the scriptures that your attitude toward me is improper then that is rebuking, passing judgment would be making a call on another in a demeaning, belittling, and condemning way !!!

The style of rebuking spoken of in the bible is using scripture to correct a person in their walk, which is what I am doing because you are my brother and I do not want to give up on you out of that brotherly love. Which is why I continuing to try and show you these things, even though you reject them all the time.

The bible clearly teaches no condemnation for those in Christ that walk by the Spirit, and not by the flesh !!!
 
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Gr8grace

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HAHAHA you need to lighten up...I didnt belittle you nor did I demean you.....I have never in my life seen someone so easily offended...oh wait..there is one or two and you all claim works and the ability to lose salvation...you know a sign of spiritual maturity is not being esily offended...are you saved and spiritually mature? Maybe that is the problem....one who believes they can lose it must do something to gain or keep it which is believing in a gospel of a different kind....Kenneth..do you know the Lord as your savior according to faith and grace? And if so, why are you not spiritually mature and not easily offended? Just asking...so dont get upset now....!
It is so interesting to watch DC. you would swear that a lot of people were sliced and diced on this forum by some of the comments !

When it was just a simple, firm opinion!
 
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I don't judge you Dcon and please understand the difference between judging and biblical rebuking.

When I show you from the scriptures that your attitude toward me is improper then that is rebuking, passing judgment would be making a call on another in a demeaning, belittling, and condemning way !!!

The style of rebuking spoken of in the bible is using scripture to correct a person in their walk, which is what I am doing because you are my brother and I do not want to give up on you out of that brotherly love. Which is why I continuing to try and show you these things, even though you reject them all the time.

The bible clearly teaches no condemnation for those in Christ that walk by the Spirit, and not by the flesh !!!
Oh IC...it is biblical rebuking when you do it and judging when I do it.....dude you take the cake for sure!
 
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KennethC

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Now you adding to the word....I have read that numerous times and the (because they continued to walk in sins) is your addition....He never knew them because they taught works for salvation and trusted into their works for salvation instead of Jesus...goes right along with those teaching the false gospel of faith and works for salvation that Paul rebukes in the letter to the Galatian brethern!
What do you think iniquity means ???

1 : gross injustice : wickedness

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: a wicked act or thing : sin
 
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It is so interesting to watch DC. you would swear that a lot of people were sliced and diced on this forum by some of the comments !

When it was just a simple, firm opinion!
His last post takes the cake...judging when I do it...biblical rebuking when he does it.....I about spit my iced mocha all over the place when I read that joke!
 
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KennethC

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It is so interesting to watch DC. you would swear that a lot of people were sliced and diced on this forum by some of the comments !

When it was just a simple, firm opinion!
Telling somebody they need to buy diapers is not a proper way to speak to others, that is belittling and demeaning talk that comes from the flesh and not from the Spirit......
 
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KennethC what did Paul witness?
 
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What do you think iniquity means ???

1 : gross injustice : wickedness

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: a wicked act or thing : sin
Yeah they worked iniquity alright...because the taught and believed in a working for salvation false doctrine...just like the hypocritical Pharisees who boasted all the day long of what they had done at the detriment of those low lifes who trusted into faith, grace and mercy to cover their sins....!
 
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KennethC

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Oh IC...it is biblical rebuking when you do it and judging when I do it.....dude you take the cake for sure!
Dcon you don't use scripture in your rebuking but instead use belittling and demeaning tacts, that is the difference that you seem to not understand.

For the bible says that rebuking and reproving is only to be done by using the Word of God !!!
 
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Telling somebody they need to buy diapers is not a proper way to speak to others, that is belittling and demeaning talk that comes from the flesh and not from the Spirit......
Kenneth dont forget to quote me correctly....I also said formula as well! But you seemed to miss the ;)
 
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Dcon you don't use scripture in your rebuking but instead use belittling and demeaning tacts, that is the difference that you seem to not understand.

For the bible says that rebuking and reproving is only to be done by using the Word of God !!!

Qualifiy it however you want Kenneth.....I really dont care bro.....there is another word...hypocrite...and at the end of the day...you use your opinion just as much as anyone on this site!
 
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KennethC

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Yeah they worked iniquity alright...because the taught and believed in a working for salvation false doctrine...just like the hypocritical Pharisees who boasted all the day long of what they had done at the detriment of those low lifes who trusted into faith, grace and mercy to cover their sins....!
No they did not, there is absolutely nothing in that scripture that says they tried to earn salvation by works.
You are adding to what is not there, as the bible clearly even shows from Paul also that a person can not serve both the Lord and sin/flesh both, for that is what Paul calls a carnal mind that leads to death.

Those in Matthew 7:23 are an example of the carnally minded who thought they could serve both, they found out differently !!!
 
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EdisonTrent

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What was the witness of Paul KennethC