Addicted to pornography

[instinctviews30]

I converted to christ or rather reawakened a childhood faith for about a little over a year. And I watched it even daily. So when I became a convert I was fighting it. Sometimes I wasn't doing it and I didn't want to because Im getting down on the word you know. But lately I been doing that! And you know what it's not like before when I did it didn't think much of it and just went to sleep. Now it's like OMG what did I do. Man how am I supposed to pray now. I feel separated from God. And so I was separating from God. And when the attacks come it's hard for me to just... not watch porn and pray instead because I like it. I pray for forgiveness all the time. Even prayed about the times I've looked at someone and lusted after her. But I continue to repeat that sin. So I must cut my eyes out. I know. Does anyone else have a story like that I'd like to hear about it. We all sin right? What is your sin? How do you cope with it?

 

[Willie-T]

You're rare. Honesty is something God can work with. You willing to spend $10, or so?

http://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Honor-Training-Purity-Righteousness/dp/0768441323

THIS one actually has the answers.

 

[bowharp]

You're rare. Honesty is something God can work with. You willing to spend $10, or so?

http://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Honor-Training-Purity-Righteousness/dp/0768441323

THIS one actually has the answers.

wow, Willie-T, how did you get 27 Minutes Ago editing allowance? After 5 mins, my post gets "locked" and I can't delete any more

Special privileges, i see?

 

[levi85]

Lord break this chains of pornography and help to lead a righteous life for you. In Jesus name, Amen!

 

[Willie-T]

wow, Willie-T, how did you get 27 Minutes Ago editing allowance? After 5 mins, my post gets "locked" and I can't delete any more

Special privileges, i see?

You weren't supposed to notice that. Only six of us have that access.

 

[instinctviews30]

Amen thank brother

 

[Chelseaoz]

Suppression will only make it worse. You have to watch it but in a different way. Watch it and think about the people you see. They are real people. What do they think or feel? What kind of lives might they have. Personally I don't think watching people have sex is a sin. It is the sexual objectification of human beings that is a sin, because we reduce people to consumerable objects ("a piece of meat"). If I watch an art house film about two lovers, and there is an explicit sex scene portraying the emotional intimacy of the two people, I don't consider that porn. Some "romantic" porn tries to achieve this, but unless the people care about each other and are truly making love rather than acting, then it's just porn like the rest of what's out there. I think you need to accept your sexuality as a beautiful gift from God, stop feeling negative about your cravings, and find positive ways to meet them. You need to get to the stage where the novelty has worn thin. If you watch it and remain conscious, it might start to look a bit silly after a while, and lose its allure. Just some thoughts. Good luck. It's a difficult one, and most of the world is consumed by sexual objectification I think, so you are not alone.

 

[Willie-T]

Suppression will only make it worse. You have to watch it but in a different way. Watch it and think about the people you see. They are real people. What do they think or feel? What kind of lives might they have. Personally I don't think watching people have sex is a sin. It is the sexual objectification of human beings that is a sin, because we reduce people to consumerable objects ("a piece of meat"). If I watch an art house film about two lovers, and there is an explicit sex scene portraying the emotional intimacy of the two people, I don't consider that porn. Some "romantic" porn tries to achieve this, but unless the people care about each other and are truly making love rather than acting, then it's just porn like the rest of what's out there. I think you need to accept your sexuality as a beautiful gift from God, stop feeling negative about your cravings, and find positive ways to meet them. You need to get to the stage where the novelty has worn thin. If you watch it and remain conscious, it might start to look a bit silly after a while, and lose its allure. Just some thoughts. Good luck. It's a difficult one, and most of the world is consumed by sexual objectification I think, so you are not alone.

This is utter foolishness.

 

[Sharah]

Its a tough one but like with every situation,God never gives you more than you can handle & the fact that you feel guilt shows that you have changed, keep praying & keep trying.

 

[Chelseaoz]

It is your opinion, not a fact, that this is "foolishness". Care to elaborate Willie-T?

 

[ServantStrike]

Suppression will only make it worse. You have to watch it but in a different way. Watch it and think about the people you see. They are real people. What do they think or feel? What kind of lives might they have. Personally I don't think watching people have sex is a sin. It is the sexual objectification of human beings that is a sin, because we reduce people to consumerable objects ("a piece of meat"). If I watch an art house film about two lovers, and there is an explicit sex scene portraying the emotional intimacy of the two people, I don't consider that porn. Some "romantic" porn tries to achieve this, but unless the people care about each other and are truly making love rather than acting, then it's just porn like the rest of what's out there. I think you need to accept your sexuality as a beautiful gift from God, stop feeling negative about your cravings, and find positive ways to meet them. You need to get to the stage where the novelty has worn thin. If you watch it and remain conscious, it might start to look a bit silly after a while, and lose its allure. Just some thoughts. Good luck. It's a difficult one, and most of the world is consumed by sexual objectification I think, so you are not alone.

Unless you're married no fantasy and no lust. End of story. Matthew 5 28 and Job 31 1. Stop now before you ensnare others with this terrible advice. A man can turn off that one part of himself and still love a full life. When he is married he will never regret having done the biblically sound behaviors God teaches.

 

[realchild4life]

I converted to christ or rather reawakened a childhood faith for about a little over a year. And I watched it even daily. So when I became a convert I was fighting it. Sometimes I wasn't doing it and I didn't want to because Im getting down on the word you know. But lately I been doing that! And you know what it's not like before when I did it didn't think much of it and just went to sleep. Now it's like OMG what did I do. Man how am I supposed to pray now. I feel separated from God. And so I was separating from God. And when the attacks come it's hard for me to just... not watch porn and pray instead because I like it. I pray for forgiveness all the time. Even prayed about the times I've looked at someone and lusted after her. But I continue to repeat that sin. So I must cut my eyes out. I know. Does anyone else have a story like that I'd like to hear about it. We all sin right? What is your sin? How do you cope with it?

If life made reality how then can we ever be separated from life, unless of course you void your soul.

And not a great deal of people know how to do that.

 

[Sharah]

Unless you're married no fantasy and no lust. End of story. Matthew 5 28 and Job 31 1. Stop now before you ensnare others with this terrible advice. A man can turn off that one part of himself and still love a full life. When he is married he will never regret having done the biblically sound behaviors God teaches.

Im just trying to understand please dont shoot me......

So that means no to self pleasuring too? Cause as humans we are visual beings and self pleasuring more often than not comes with either visual stimulation in the form of porn movies or magazines or even images on your computer or phone and sometimes out of memory or imagination, so just no?

 

[VioletReigns]

Suppression will only make it worse. You have to watch it but in a different way. Watch it and think about the people you see. They are real people. What do they think or feel? What kind of lives might they have. Personally I don't think watching people have sex is a sin. It is the sexual objectification of human beings that is a sin, because we reduce people to consumerable objects ("a piece of meat"). If I watch an art house film about two lovers, and there is an explicit sex scene portraying the emotional intimacy of the two people, I don't consider that porn. Some "romantic" porn tries to achieve this, but unless the people care about each other and are truly making love rather than acting, then it's just porn like the rest of what's out there. I think you need to accept your sexuality as a beautiful gift from God, stop feeling negative about your cravings, and find positive ways to meet them. You need to get to the stage where the novelty has worn thin. If you watch it and remain conscious, it might start to look a bit silly after a while, and lose its allure. Just some thoughts. Good luck. It's a difficult one, and most of the world is consumed by sexual objectification I think, so you are not alone.

That goes against wisdom, which says "FLEE all appearances of evil." That mind over matter stuff is baloney. Anyone in recovery will vouch for that. If people were able to overcome their carnality by sheer will power, Christ Jesus died in vain.

It goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaay deeper than outward impulses. Waaaaaaaay more hidden than fleeting thoughts. Only the Spirit of Jesus Christ can deliver people from themselves. I agree with Willie-T about the book, "Eyes of Honor" being a profitable tool for overcoming addiction to porn.

 

[MissCris]

Suppression will only make it worse. You have to watch it but in a different way. Watch it and think about the people you see. They are real people. What do they think or feel? What kind of lives might they have. Personally I don't think watching people have sex is a sin. It is the sexual objectification of human beings that is a sin, because we reduce people to consumerable objects ("a piece of meat"). If I watch an art house film about two lovers, and there is an explicit sex scene portraying the emotional intimacy of the two people, I don't consider that porn. Some "romantic" porn tries to achieve this, but unless the people care about each other and are truly making love rather than acting, then it's just porn like the rest of what's out there. I think you need to accept your sexuality as a beautiful gift from God, stop feeling negative about your cravings, and find positive ways to meet them. You need to get to the stage where the novelty has worn thin. If you watch it and remain conscious, it might start to look a bit silly after a while, and lose its allure. Just some thoughts. Good luck. It's a difficult one, and most of the world is consumed by sexual objectification I think, so you are not alone.

There's so much in this to disagree with it's hard to pick a place to start. And I sincerely hope nobody who read this was taken in by it, especially the OP and others who struggle in this area.

Why on earth would you tell an addict who is trying to STOP doing something to do it MORE, but to look at it differently? Would you say that to an alcoholic who is trying to get sober? "Don't suppress your urge to drink, in fact, drink MORE, except think about it in a different way".

Does that sound ridiculous and counterproductive? YES.

The other major issue I'm having with this- so you believe it's perfectly fine to watch two people having sex so long as they are in love? Is that basically what you were getting at? Seriously, please do correct me if I misunderstood. But if that's what you meant, again, that's ridiculous and counterproductive to what the OP is trying to do, not to mention a poor cover up for watching PORN, which is still what you're doing if you are WATCHING people have sex, regardless of the existence or non existence of a loving (or any other type of) relationship between them.

And honestly, as far as sex scenes in movies or shows, even those (however "mild" they may be) should be avoided by someone who struggles with a pork addiction (oh my goodness, I'm leaving that typo just because...hilarious. Of course I meant to say porN addiction).

I apologize if this sounds like an attack, I certainly don't intend it that way; I just feel very...frustrated...when somebody who is looking for help ends up getting advice that is only going to hurt them and drag them down further. I wouldn't want to be responsible for causing-or encouraging- a brother or sister to stumble, especially when they've openly stated they need help.

 

[jsr1221]

There's so much in this to disagree with it's hard to pick a place to start. And I sincerely hope nobody who read this was taken in by it, especially the OP and others who struggle in this area.

Why on earth would you tell an addict who is trying to STOP doing something to do it MORE, but to look at it differently? Would you say that to an alcoholic who is trying to get sober? "Don't suppress your urge to drink, in fact, drink MORE, except think about it in a different way".

Does that sound ridiculous and counterproductive? YES.

The other major issue I'm having with this- so you believe it's perfectly fine to watch two people having sex so long as they are in love? Is that basically what you were getting at? Seriously, please do correct me if I misunderstood. But if that's what you meant, again, that's ridiculous and counterproductive to what the OP is trying to do, not to mention a poor cover up for watching PORN, which is still what you're doing if you are WATCHING people have sex, regardless of the existence or non existence of a loving (or any other type of) relationship between them.

And honestly, as far as sex scenes in movies or shows, even those (however "mild" they may be) should be avoided by someone who struggles with a pork addiction (oh my goodness, I'm leaving that typo just because...hilarious. Of course I meant to say porN addiction).

I apologize if this sounds like an attack, I certainly don't intend it that way; I just feel very...frustrated...when somebody who is looking for help ends up getting advice that is only going to hurt them and drag them down further. I wouldn't want to be responsible for causing-or encouraging- a brother or sister to stumble, especially when they've openly stated they need help.

The more one watches it, the deeper it strains his or her relationship with the significant other, or a future significant other. The addict can't be satisfied unless there is porn is involved. It scews the person's thinking on what real romance is. I've seen first hand what it does to people, unfortunately.

 

[Willie-T]

Im just trying to understand please dont shoot me......

So that means no to self pleasuring too? Cause as humans we are visual beings and self pleasuring more often than not comes with either visual stimulation in the form of porn movies or magazines or even images on your computer or phone and sometimes out of memory or imagination, so just no?

Are you only going to do drugs on Thursdays, and expect to quit? This is also very foolish.

 

[Willie-T]

That goes against wisdom, which says "FLEE all appearances of evil." That mind over matter stuff is baloney. Anyone in recovery will vouch for that. If people were able to overcome their carnality by sheer will power, Christ Jesus died in vain.

It goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaay deeper than outward impulses. Waaaaaaaay more hidden than fleeting thoughts. Only the Spirit of Jesus Christ can deliver people from themselves. I agree with Willie-T about the book, "Eyes of Honor" being a profitable tool for overcoming addiction to porn.

I'll say it again. If you are serious about quitting, spend the measly $10 on the book. A fast-food meal costs more.

 

[Willie-T]

I do have to make one thing crystal clear.

The poster with the wild-sounding solution DID get one thing right. Your thinking about porn does have to change.

Thinking is primary. Those never hooked by this thing often feel they are giving Biblical advice when they say to just get your mind off it, and don't think about it. Well, that honestly doesn't work UNLESS you DO continue to think. Let me explain.

REPENT means to change your mind. (Don't play with the meaning... that really IS what it means.) So, when you turn to Christ, you do not quit thinking, but you "change your thinking" to reflect living as Christ wants us to. Same thing with porn. You cannot just put it out of your mind. That will NOT work. You have to replace your thoughts of using and possessing this plastic goddess whom you fantasize worships and adores you (Yeah, this whole thing is WAY more than just getting off on some pictures.) to thoughts of protecting a true sister of ours that is being held prisoner and being abused to make money for others.

As long as you buy into porn, you are taking more and more of the God-created person she is, and defiling what God made.

This thought is a poorly explained point made in the book. I don't do it justice here.

So, I say again, if you honestly care, and are not just blowing smoke to make you sound religious... Get the book this very day.

 

[Willie-T]

I have to contact the author, but maybe he will give me permission to post some portions of his book here. But, if you are really serious, I find it difficult to believe that you can't come up with $10 to get your own copy.