Sarcasm has its place. Hell.

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Elin

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It is a given in almost every case, when promoted deception is revealed, sarcastic remarks follow. Satan has an agenda that unlearned profession Christians are deceived thereby.
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Physician, heal thyself.

"Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners." 1 Corinthians 15:33
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Says nothing about it corrupting the faith. . .as do HRM heresies.
 
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Rosesrock

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if sarcasm is worthy of hell, I'm hittin it wide open.

Seriously??

It's the heart attitude of the words used, not the sarcasm itself. Just like tv can be used for bad and good.
 
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Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. Ephesians 4:29


Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil. Matthew 5:37

Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. Ephesians 5:4

The sluggard is wiser in his own eyes than seven men who can answer sensibly. Proverbs 26:16Proverbs 12:18

Is this enough to get the point across?

More people in CC acting like heathens than what the Bible says we really should be like.
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Sarcasm has its place (Gal 5:12).
 
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For a long time i have watched, and many here openly jest and use scalding "sarcasm" against younger "less learned" christians, all for coming here and simply making a statement such as, "am i supposed to quit sinning once i believe, because i think i am?", And your overwhelming response is, "quit judging people and being self-righteous, quit being legalistic, who do you think you are?, cant you see how big of a joke you are, etc.
It is sickening to see how you tread upon those Holy Spirit filled young men and women who desire holiness, and who have the audacity to believe scripture when it says there is NO temptation you cannot overcome. These children, these "little ones" who trust Christ, and the Holy Spirit, to help them sin less each day, come here for nurture and seeking support, and they DO NOT GET IT. What do they get? RIDICULE. SLANDER. BLASPHEMY OF HOLY DESIRES.
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Straw man. . .

You paint with a broad brush in your defense of non-NT teaching.
 
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I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
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Agreed. . .
 
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oldthennew said:
for myself,

working on the habit of sarcasm that I learned as a young person has been a challenge, I was
very influenced by the speech around me and tended to copy-cat.
especially since as I grew older I could discern how my speech was truly affecting others in either
a positive or negative way - after conversion Christ began convicting me very strongly about hurting others -
it's like when you hurt someone then you begin to feel their pain and it feels awful.

PS.19:14.
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in Thy sight, O LORD,
my Strength, and my Redeemer.

sometimes harsh correction is necessary to 'wake someone up', but must always be accompanied
by a loving motive, else it is just 'worldly sarcasm' and is of no profit.
we are required by our Father to always be ready to dutifully care for our brothers and sisters
as He cares for us in our Spiritual growth.

as it is written:
Woe is me, for I am undone! because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people
of unclean lips...
Then one of the seraphim flew unto me, having in his hand a live coal which he had taken with the tongs
from the altar.
And he touched my mouth with it and said:
Behold, this has touched your lips; your iniquity is taken away, and your sin is purged.

so, may the Lord touch our lips with that Spiritual coal from the altar's fire.
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The NT's response to heresy and false teaching (Judaizing, false gospel, etc.) is not loving support and kindness.
It is condemnation and censorship because its origin is the unholy (unclean) spirit.
 
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Rosesrock

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Utah said:
Get hubby to bring you up to Jersey. And hurry, I'm seeing Def Leppard this Saturday. :cool:
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Dude you're killin me. We saw Guns and Roses last year. Bummer, he can't anymore time of till next quarter. :(
 
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ember

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Utah said:
Amen to this, Ember. The problem with your post is, though you wrote it so clearly and eloquently, mikko only sees, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, because he is a Pharisee hellbent on condemning us. Jesus on the other hand welcomes us openly, lovingly and graciously.
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yeah I don't understand that blah blah language
 
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KennethC

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atwhatcost said:
Actually, I was thinking of Jesus tell Peter he's the rock. Although, "whitewashed sepulchre." BURN!
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That was not sarcasm either when Jesus, "and on this rock I will build My church."

Lord Jesus was making a true statement that He is the corner stone of the body of believers in Him, which is the true Church.


Apostle Peter was given the keys of leadership to spread the good news, but he is not the corner stone of our faith or the Church. That is the Lord Jesus Himself !!!
 
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Elin said:
The NT's response to heresy and false teaching (Judaizing, false gospel, etc.) is not loving support and kindness.
It is condemnation and censorship because its origin is the unholy (unclean) spirit.[/QUOTE
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sometimes harsh correction is necessary to 'wake someone up', but must always be accompanied
by a loving motive, else it is just 'worldly sarcasm' and is of no profit.
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Elin,

you are an amazing person, we have found this to be so after we came to this site and we both have a lot
of respect for you as we do many others here, but, we must never forget the Heart of God and His
pure Holy Love for others, this is our EXAMPLE and duty to all of our Brothers and Sisters -

no doubt, God is a God of Love, and no doubt, God is a Consuming Fire, and He WILL render judgment
according to what ever a man or woman has done, whether it be good or whether it be evil.
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Also, if the people in Gal 5:12 went the whole way (in relation to circumcision) and emasculated themselves, they could no longer spread the bad seed (wrong teachings) that Paul is complaining so bitterly against, so I also see it as a bit of a double entendre.
 
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Or perhaps he was using that hyperbole to convey that very message re: spreading bad seed.
(I never thought about it before!)
 
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ember

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Magenta said:
Also, if the people in Gal 5:12 went the whole way (in relation to circumcision) and emasculated themselves, they could no longer spread the bad seed (wrong teachings) that Paul is complaining so bitterly against, so I also see it as a bit of a double entendre.
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well this is a side note on that verse, but how could that possibly apply to physical reproduction?

I really do not think Paul was aiming for a 'double entendre' as you say

physical incapability would not render better spiritual understanding IMO
 
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