Trinity vs. Oneness

[jaybird88]

So, are you saying denying the full deity of Jesus Christ? it's obvious that the Father is God, and that Jesus is not the same person as the Father.

i am saying i try to do what Jesus taught.
so did Jesus teach this or not? are you saying we should ignore His teachings?

 

[jaybird88]

The Trinity doctrine is only unclear to those who deny it. It's perfectly clear to me and most Christians. Please be aware that most Christians are Trinitarians.

I accept all of what Scripture says concerning God's nature. Scripture says that God is One, and that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God, and all distinct Persons.

These simple 2 sentences describe the Trinity doctrine. No confusion there.

makes no difference to me what most people do. if most people told you to bow to Satan would you do it?

 

[sparkman]

i am saying i try to do what Jesus taught.
so did Jesus teach this or not? are you saying we should ignore His teachings?

Jesus prayed to the Father. Communication requires two distinct persons. Otherwise we have nonsense.

You didn't answer the question. Are you denying the full deity of Jesus Christ? Was Jesus fully God?

 

[sparkman]

makes no difference to me what most people do. if most people told you to bow to Satan would you do it?

The difference is that Scripture teaches the Trinity and it does not teach bowing to Satan, so your analogy is nonsense, unless you are claiming that believing in the Trinity is the same thing as bowing to Satan. Is that what you are inferring? That Trinitarians worship Satan?

 

[pwrnJC]

Picture a beautiful Mountain Lake. It freezes over and, during the night, a soft powdering of fresh snow covers over it. You have 3 distinct different things, yet are are H2O !!!

 

[jaybird88]

Jesus prayed to the Father. Communication requires two distinct persons. Otherwise we have nonsense.

exactly

The difference is that Scripture teaches the Trinity and it does not teach bowing to Satan, so your analogy is nonsense

thats not what i said. if the majority told you to bow to satan would you do it? your making you case on "what most people do" i go by what Jesus taught. thats the difference.

unless you are claiming that believing in the Trinity is the same thing as bowing to Satan. Is that what you are inferring? That Trinitarians worship Satan?

thats not what i said and you know it

You didn't answer the question. Are you denying the full deity of Jesus Christ? Was Jesus fully God?

you want to report me and get me banned so bad, thats just insane and sad. does the bible not say test all things?
here is my answer, i do not deny it it!!!!! is that clear enough for you???
i will aslo say. Jesus is the Son sent by the Father. all the fullness, details and divinity nature i do not understand. that does not mean i reject anything.

Jesus said only the Father knows the Son. i am not going to elevate myself that high and claim i know everything the Son is.

 

[mailmandan]

I once had a Oneness Pentecostal approach me while I was delivering mail and she tried to convince me that there is no Trinity and also that a person must be water baptized in "Jesus name only" in order to be saved. She said baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit was "invalid" and such a person remains lost. She gave me the creeps! I was waiting for her to hand me the Kool Aid!

 

[jaybird88]

I once had a Oneness Pentecostal approach me while I was delivering mail and she tried to convince me that there is no Trinity and also that a person must be water baptized in "Jesus name only" in order to be saved. She said baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit was "invalid" and such a person remains lost. She gave me the creeps! I was waiting for her to hand me the Kool Aid!

i get that feeling with Mormons. its hard to describe, its like an invisible force is pushing between us like reverse magnetism. one thing i wont forget is their eyes, like starring into nothingness.
i get JWs at my door sometimes but dont get that feeling, they just seem a bit different. i always talk to em but they eventually leave without ever inviting me to their church.

 

[blondieindahouse]

i get that feeling with Mormons. its hard to describe, its like an invisible force is pushing between us like reverse magnetism. one thing i wont forget is their eyes, like starring into nothingness.
i get JWs at my door sometimes but dont get that feeling, they just seem a bit different. i always talk to em but they eventually leave without ever inviting me to their church.

Satan comes in many flavors.

 

[sparkman]

i am saying i try to do what Jesus taught.
so did Jesus teach this or not? are you saying we should ignore His teachings?

Easy questions.

1. Do you believe in the full deity of Jesus Christ?
2. Are Trinitarians bowing to Satan?

No, I don't believe Christians should ignore any of Jesus' teachings, including the teaching of his full deity, and his distinction from the Father in terms of person.

I also don't think he was some kind of schizophrenic who talked to himself while praying.

 

[jaybird88]

Easy questions.
1. Do you believe in the full deity of Jesus Christ?

this is my answer, it hasn't changed. what are you not understanding?
you want to report me and get me banned so bad, thats just insane and sad. does the bible not say test all things?
here is my answer, i do not deny it it!!!!! is that clear enough for you???
i will aslo say. Jesus is the Son sent by the Father. all the fullness, details and divinity nature i do not understand. that does not mean i reject anything.

Jesus said only the Father knows the Son. i am not going to elevate myself that high and claim i know everything the Son is.

2. Are Trinitarians bowing to Satan?

i wouldt know

No, I don't believe Christians should ignore any of Jesus' teachings, including the teaching of his full deity, and his distinction from the Father in terms of person.

I also don't think he was some kind of schizophrenic who talked to himself while praying.

but when Jesus says pray to the Father we should ignore this?