Marijuana?

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But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the aboninable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

The greak translation for sorcery is Pharmakiea That is were they get the word Pharmacy which means drugs. So sorcery and mind-altering drugs go hand in hand. Drugs are used in sorcery because they alter a persons state of consciousness and help them to be influenced by demonic spirits. That is why people on drugs make such bad decsions. That is also why a lot of these rock musician expesially from the 70's and 80's are so bazare---because these people were on drugs and these demonic spirits helped them write there songs.

So does the Bible say that smoking merijuana is a sin. Yes, in a round about why it accualy does.
No it doesn't, because marijuana does not alter your mind in any way except positively :)
 
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lil-rush

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But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the aboninable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

The greak translation for sorcery is Pharmakiea That is were they get the word Pharmacy which means drugs. So sorcery and mind-altering drugs go hand in hand. Drugs are used in sorcery because they alter a persons state of consciousness and help them to be influenced by demonic spirits. That is why people on drugs make such bad decsions. That is also why a lot of these rock musician expesially from the 80's and 90's are so bazare---because these people were on drugs and these demonic spirits helped them write there songs.

So does the Bible say that smoking merijuana is a sin. Yes, in a round about why it accualy does.
Just because the root word meant one thing, does not mean a word that evolved from it means the same thing. For example, the word asinine comes from the Latin word asinus, which means donkey or a**. This does not mean when I say something is asinine I am calling it a donkey.

So, you do not approve of drugs of any sort? And, I am using the term very loosely, because marijuana isn't really a drug to me. It's an herb. The government labeled it as a drug so they could make it illegal, but originally marijuana was just an herb. So, if we are going to categorize herbs as drugs, I am assuming you abstain from using herbs in your food.
 
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Smoke your weed. I am not judging. I just don't want you to mislead others by justifying something that is wrong.

Plus, it is illegal in the USA at least. If you are smoking it illegally, you are committing sin.

1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. (Romans 13:1-7)


If you get it legally through medical purposes... well, that is your own issue to tackle.
 
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Smoke your weed. I am not judging. I just don't want you to mislead others by justifying something that is wrong.

Plus, it is illegal in the USA at least. If you are smoking it illegally, you are committing sin.
Well, one step to having marijuana legalized[in America at least] is showing Christians it is not sinful to use it. A great majority of people who want marijuana to stay illegal are the uninformed masses who think it is deadly and sinful.

I agree with you that smoking it illegally is a sin, though.
 
Jan 22, 2010
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Smoke your weed. I am not judging. I just don't want you to mislead others by justifying something that is wrong.
Problem is, I've shown you where Scripture says quite clearly that it is acceptable, and you haven't shown me where it is clearly called sinful.

Plus, it is illegal in the USA at least. If you are smoking it illegally, you are committing sin.
Not everywhere in the USA. At least 11 states now have either legalized it or are in the process of legalizing it. I live in California, and straight up marijuana legalization is going on the ballot in November. Currently, CA has enough support to get it legalized.

Furthermore, it always cracks me up when people quote Paul's pro-government speech...many of the holy men in the bible, Yeshua himself included, engaged in civil disobedience. If a law was wrong, they would not follow it. Paul himself went against the government quite a few times.
 
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Not everywhere in the USA. At least 11 states now have either legalized it or are in the process of legalizing it. I live in California, and straight up marijuana legalization is going on the ballot in November. Currently, CA has enough support to get it legalized.
AHAHA, so if marijuana is made legal in CA, you'll be stuck in FL. Sucks to be you.
 
Jan 22, 2010
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AHAHA, so if marijuana is made legal in CA, you'll be stuck in FL. Sucks to be you.
*shrug* So I'll start a campaign to have it legalized in FL :p

Honestly, I'd like to see it legal in 50 states. But, that's just me.
 
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Just because the root word meant one thing, does not mean a word that evolved from it means the same thing. For example, the word asinine comes from the Latin word asinus, which means donkey or a**. This does not mean when I say something is asinine I am calling it a donkey.

So, you do not approve of drugs of any sort? And, I am using the term very loosely, because marijuana isn't really a drug to me. It's an herb. The government labeled it as a drug so they could make it illegal, but originally marijuana was just an herb. So, if we are going to categorize herbs as drugs, I am assuming you abstain from using herbs in your food.
Don't be so silly The wor A-S-S in the bible ment a donkey but now the degenerate man has turned it unto a person rear end. A-s-s is not the greek word for a person B-hinde

But drugs alter a persons state of consciousness and cause a person to be influenced by the demonic realm. So just like they were able to be used as witchcraft in the Bible, they still can be used today.

The thing that going to the greek helps is because some of the words that are use today are still greek. for example whoremonger means pornos in greek and that is where the term pornography comes from pornography basicaly means pictures of whores.
 
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Well, one step to having marijuana legalized[in America at least] is showing Christians it is not sinful to use it. A great majority of people who want marijuana to stay illegal are the uninformed masses who think it is deadly and sinful.

I agree with you that smoking it illegally is a sin, though.

It isn't deadly. I never said that... I just believe strongly that it is mind altering to the point where it is not good for you. Christ would not have been a pothead. I think it's a sin... but we all sin. If you do it, I am not going to judge. It isn't my place to judge. I've smoked a LOT in my past. I know what it does and what it doesn't do. I've done a lot of other drugs too. None of them are good for you. Neither is smoking cigarettes or drinking too much. It is the same thing.

Doing something to destroy your body is still a sin. That is my stance. I am not here to argue with everyone over it though. I just don't want some kid to come in here and see all of this, and think it's okay to smoke just because a select few of you will pull out one verse in Genesis.
 
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*shrug* So I'll start a campaign to have it legalized in FL :p

Honestly, I'd like to see it legal in 50 states. But, that's just me.
Let's not tell mom and dad of your campaign. They'd never let you in the house, and how am I supposed to cook for you if you can't come in my house?
 
Jan 22, 2010
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Let's not tell mom and dad of your campaign. They'd never let you in the house, and how am I supposed to cook for you if you can't come in my house?
I can sit outside? :p
 
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Alright, I realize that this topic is very controversial. I would like to know everyone's opinions on if marijuana is good verses bad. Now I am not promoting marijuana in anyway, I am just wondering about opinions. Now I am already prepared that people will pop out verses talking about how we are not supposed to to harm the templ of God, so I would like to make a comment in the future on that. Marijuana has actually been proven that in small amounts not taken often is not bad for your health, and is infact no worse than small amount of alcohol EX. a glass of wine. I understand that smoking marijuana can turn into a habit, and in this way is bad for you. So I also understand this side of the fight, but keep in mind that there are lots of things that are legal that are bad for you when they turn into a habit. So, I would like to know what everyone on CC think of Marijuana. Remember to keep this civilised, and I am sure that I will see lots of people against it. God Bless you guys.
what is so great about marijuana?if you need "help" why not call Gods help
 
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It isn't deadly. I never said that... I just believe strongly that it is mind altering to the point where it is not good for you. Christ would not have been a pothead. I think it's a sin... but we all sin. If you do it, I am not going to judge. It isn't my place to judge. I've smoked a LOT in my past. I know what it does and what it doesn't do. I've done a lot of other drugs too. None of them are good for you. Neither is smoking cigarettes or drinking too much. It is the same thing.

Doing something to destroy your body is still a sin. That is my stance. I am not here to argue with everyone over it though. I just don't want some kid to come in here and see all of this, and think it's okay to smoke just because a select few of you will pull out one verse in Genesis.
Doing something to destroy your body is disrespectful to God, and so a sin, yes. I agree with that. But, I do not believe marijuana can destroy your body if used responsibly. Wine is more likely to destroy your body if used incorrectly than marijuana is, and it can alter your state of mind just like marijuana can. Yeshua drank wine.
 
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It isn't deadly. I never said that... I just believe strongly that it is mind altering to the point where it is not good for you. Christ would not have been a pothead. I think it's a sin... but we all sin. If you do it, I am not going to judge. It isn't my place to judge. I've smoked a LOT in my past. I know what it does and what it doesn't do. I've done a lot of other drugs too. None of them are good for you. Neither is smoking cigarettes or drinking too much. It is the same thing.

Doing something to destroy your body is still a sin. That is my stance. I am not here to argue with everyone over it though. I just don't want some kid to come in here and see all of this, and think it's okay to smoke just because a select few of you will pull out one verse in Genesis.
The problem is, if we actually examined the facts about marijuana we'd see that it is actually medically beneficial, as well as mentally beneficial.

The only negative health effect of marijuana is the VERY slim possibility of contracting lung cancer, and even that would take far more than the average dose a human being can take. You'd fall asleep before you got anywhere near the proper dose to contract lung cancer.
 
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Don't be so silly The wor A-S-S in the bible ment a donkey but now the degenerate man has turned it unto a person rear end. A-s-s is not the greek word for a person B-hinde

But drugs alter a persons state of consciousness and cause a person to be influenced by the demonic realm. So just like they were able to be used as witchcraft in the Bible, they still can be used today.

The thing that going to the greek helps is because some of the words that are use today are still greek. for example whoremonger means pornos in greek and that is where the term pornography comes from pornography basicaly means pictures of whores.
Marijuanna kills brain cells. You are killing the one thing that helps you to resist the temptation of the devil. After years of it a person probably becomes about possessed. Because the Bible says to be sober because the devil roams about seeing who he may devour.
 
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You are wrong. 1 in 5 car accidents are related to marijuana. Some of those accidents involve fatalities. Also, MJ is 4-5 times more carcenogetic than cigarettes. Marijuana replaces one of the reward chemicals of your brain. The direct result of this is a loss of interest in such things as sex, school, work, etc. It does not enhance your brain activity. Tests given to students after moderate MJ use showed a substantial decrease in test scores. I suggest you look up the information from the National Institute on Drug Abuse, the American Medical Association, and the Correctional Education Association. If the issue is health, marijuana loses.
To often something gets repeated over and aver until we believe it. This is the case with marijuana. Over and over I see people say, marijuana is good for you, marijuana isn't addictive, marijauna has never killed anyone. All of this is wrong. Just because it gets said enough doesn't make it true. Often statements of comparison (i.e. marijuana is less addictive than [enter your favorite her]) becomes statements of absolute (i.e. marijuana is not addictive). So we have an institute dedicated to the study of addiction and addictive behavior, a association of almost every doctor in America, and an association dedicated to the education of convicted criminals, all three agreeing that marijuana is dangerous, addictive, has long term effects and is potentially deadly. But what will be said--I had a friend who smokes it all the time and he...I smoke it and I think....they [the mysterious they] have proven that marijuana....So who will I choose to believe? I will believe the the professionals, and I will believe the Word of God when it instructs us to be "sober minded."
 
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Don't be so silly The wor A-S-S in the bible ment a donkey but now the degenerate man has turned it unto a person rear end. A-s-s is not the greek word for a person B-hinde

But drugs alter a persons state of consciousness and cause a person to be influenced by the demonic realm. So just like they were able to be used as witchcraft in the Bible, they still can be used today.

The thing that going to the greek helps is because some of the words that are use today are still greek. for example whoremonger means pornos in greek and that is where the term pornography comes from pornography basicaly means pictures of whores.
If you read my post again, you will note I said something along the lines of "when I say asinine, I am not calling someone a donkey."

While I don't deny that people who use drugs can have demons attack them, that does not mean everyone who uses drugs is influenced by demons.

You can go to the Greek to see where a word originated, but that does not mean the word has the same definition as the original word did.
 
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Marijuanna kills brain cells. You are killing the one thing that helps you to resist the temptation of the devil. After years of it a person probably becomes about possessed. Because the Bible says to be sober because the devil roams about seeing who he may devour.
Except marijuana DOESN'T kill brain cells. No respectable doctor will tell you that.

Furthermore, again, I bring up my Rabbi: He has been consuming marijuana in various ways every day for 40 years now. He's both smarter and closer to G-d since he started. He's not possessed.