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gema923
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Nautilus,
Sometimes you just have to throw the towel in the ring because you can't defeat mental illness. It's OK brother because you are loved here no matter what you say, how mean you get how vile your actions. As Christians none of that matters because we love you just the way you are.
Sometimes you just have to throw the towel in the ring because you can't defeat mental illness. It's OK brother because you are loved here no matter what you say, how mean you get how vile your actions. As Christians none of that matters because we love you just the way you are.
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AgeofKnowledge
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He was spewing some crazy stuff. For once, I agree with you. That Satanic ice bucket conspiracy theory of his was one of the most ridiculous I've ever heard and I've heard a lot... lol.
You're just supposed to believe though because he researches everything extensively don't you know.
You're just supposed to believe though because he researches everything extensively don't you know.
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gema923
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Agedofnoknowledge,
I am glad that another narrow minded ignorant person takes the side of someone who lives in his parent's basement playing Warcraft where he might be an elder in that realm but here, just another sheep. When the military declassify's an important document or one gets "leaked" out, do you read it to inform yourselves so you can inform others? Didn't think so! You are the ignorant person the government is after, but wait, I am a conspiracy theorist despite the the YouTuube pages full of answers, just a keystroke away. Lastly, I take offense at anybody that has issues with the ice bucket challenge!!!! Why don't you send the families of over 35,000 teens a card and tell them that you don't believe what they did existed. And those are just the ones who got hurt bad enough to be hospitalized. You two will look cute together with your heads buried in the sand. I guess maybe it's true, "ignorance is bliss"
I am glad that another narrow minded ignorant person takes the side of someone who lives in his parent's basement playing Warcraft where he might be an elder in that realm but here, just another sheep. When the military declassify's an important document or one gets "leaked" out, do you read it to inform yourselves so you can inform others? Didn't think so! You are the ignorant person the government is after, but wait, I am a conspiracy theorist despite the the YouTuube pages full of answers, just a keystroke away. Lastly, I take offense at anybody that has issues with the ice bucket challenge!!!! Why don't you send the families of over 35,000 teens a card and tell them that you don't believe what they did existed. And those are just the ones who got hurt bad enough to be hospitalized. You two will look cute together with your heads buried in the sand. I guess maybe it's true, "ignorance is bliss"
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jaybird88
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i think he was spot on with the ice bucket thing. not that satan caused everyone to do it but because many did it cause everyone else did and having no idea why they were doing it, sheep herding the sheep, make sense? i think this is a huge problem in our culture. i dont think Jesus wanted us to be sheep, he wanted to elevate us from this to think for ourself, make our own decisions, learn from them, become closer to the Lord.
through Jesus to the Father and to all truth. but how can we go through Jesus when we are so concerned with what others do and think.
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gema923
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Nautilus,
Sorry, but instead of living in my parents basement so I can learn to be sheltered from all that is evil out there I choose to expose it and bring awareness to the problems it causes. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever expect to be treated like this. you people need to step back and look at what you are doing and tell me if you think God is happy. I have never came out here and judged anyone, but God warns not to judge others or he will use that same judgement upon you. The hate you have for your fellow man is the same hate he will bestow upon you. As you have shown me nothing but hate, I an only pray that you not only find your inner peace but your "true" salvation. You will feel it in your heart once you are absolute in receiving God. Just remember, We are brother's in God's army and I love you enough to die saving your life. Its time to put down the flag of hate and unite over the common enemy!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, but instead of living in my parents basement so I can learn to be sheltered from all that is evil out there I choose to expose it and bring awareness to the problems it causes. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever expect to be treated like this. you people need to step back and look at what you are doing and tell me if you think God is happy. I have never came out here and judged anyone, but God warns not to judge others or he will use that same judgement upon you. The hate you have for your fellow man is the same hate he will bestow upon you. As you have shown me nothing but hate, I an only pray that you not only find your inner peace but your "true" salvation. You will feel it in your heart once you are absolute in receiving God. Just remember, We are brother's in God's army and I love you enough to die saving your life. Its time to put down the flag of hate and unite over the common enemy!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jaybird88
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im not a fan of insults but that he said about ageofknowledge being an elder in the warcraft world, hahaha now thats funny stuff!
ageofknowledge - i love you brother but u gotta admit that was a good one lol ancient lord elf elder
ageofknowledge - i love you brother but u gotta admit that was a good one lol ancient lord elf elder
Well I havent lived with my parents in about 10 years so Im not sure where you got. But the fact that you listed youtube as somehow a reliable source for info is a joke. But keep at it, you give me a good chuckle. For someone who claimed to be a pastor you sure dont act like it.
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jaybird88
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youtube really is a good source. its not just a bunch of kids posting junk in their parents basement about the local supermarket owner being a satanic cult leader.
Cornell, Cambridge and several other universities have channels with tons of respected academics giving lectures and presentations on many intellectual subjects. i would put their knowledge above cnn and fox news any day of the week.
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gema923
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Nautilus,
For someone who claims to be saved, you don't act like it but I love you like a brother!
For someone who claims to be saved, you don't act like it but I love you like a brother!
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gema923
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jaybird88,
Right on, you are getting the point I am trying to make, exactly. With the ice bucket challenge, everyone did it because everyone did it and nobody questioned it at all. We were all like sheep and that's the point I was trying to make? Why didn't ONE person question it? It's pretty scary when you think about how society will just follow each other no matter what the game is. Thanks jay for elaborating on that for me. Because of that act, thousands of people were hospitalized doing the fire challenge. Nothing is a coincidence, this was executed from the start but they refuse to see the painful fallout from chemical burns and dismiss it it at something else. It's hard to do that when you have all of the pieces of the puzzle right there. Of course it's easier to turn away but God warned that the end of days were going to be HELL on earth...
Right on, you are getting the point I am trying to make, exactly. With the ice bucket challenge, everyone did it because everyone did it and nobody questioned it at all. We were all like sheep and that's the point I was trying to make? Why didn't ONE person question it? It's pretty scary when you think about how society will just follow each other no matter what the game is. Thanks jay for elaborating on that for me. Because of that act, thousands of people were hospitalized doing the fire challenge. Nothing is a coincidence, this was executed from the start but they refuse to see the painful fallout from chemical burns and dismiss it it at something else. It's hard to do that when you have all of the pieces of the puzzle right there. Of course it's easier to turn away but God warned that the end of days were going to be HELL on earth...
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GaryA
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It should go without saying that virtually any and every 'common' avenue of information these days is -- sometimes a good source - and sometimes not...
Wikipedia is only a good source if you are strictly interested in knowing what the modern-mentality-of-man says on the subject. Otherwise, I would advise anyone to be careful of trusting anything you might read on there as 'fact' -- especially, with regard to history. History is being re-written by Wikipedia - "little by little"...
Wikipedia is perhaps the greatest [ internet ] source of disinformation in existence.
YouTube is a hodge-podge of the good, the bad, the true, the false -- things real and things fake.
A great deal of discernment is required to "interpret" the information on any of these [ popular ] sites. You have to "weed out" the stuff that is not valid.
Even the "conspiracy" websites have to be looked at with discernment. Not everything you read on any of those should simply be accepted as 'fact'. However, on some of them -- there certainly does exist a lot of good, factual, true, and pertinent information...
And, with regard to the illuminati --- as I have said before...:
Wikipedia is only a good source if you are strictly interested in knowing what the modern-mentality-of-man says on the subject. Otherwise, I would advise anyone to be careful of trusting anything you might read on there as 'fact' -- especially, with regard to history. History is being re-written by Wikipedia - "little by little"...
Wikipedia is perhaps the greatest [ internet ] source of disinformation in existence.YouTube is a hodge-podge of the good, the bad, the true, the false -- things real and things fake.
A great deal of discernment is required to "interpret" the information on any of these [ popular ] sites. You have to "weed out" the stuff that is not valid.
Even the "conspiracy" websites have to be looked at with discernment. Not everything you read on any of those should simply be accepted as 'fact'. However, on some of them -- there certainly does exist a lot of good, factual, true, and pertinent information...
And, with regard to the illuminati --- as I have said before...:
Awareness + Open Eyes + Common Sense + Discernment =>
"The ability to step outside the MATRIX and see it for yourself..."
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Why are people willing to believe that "corruption abounds everywhere" - yet, cannot bring themselves to believe that the greater part of this corruption was brought about by like-minded conspirators with an agenda?
Why do Christians refuse to believe that Satan is capable of such?
The answer?
P.R.I.D.E.
Folks just don't like to think that they have been ( or even can be ) "hoodwinked"...
Folks just don't want to believe that anything can possibly be "concealed in plain view"...
( In reality, it cannot; however, the effect of it can be accomplished. To 'cancel' the 'effect' -- "just take the blinders off and open your eyes"...
You see...
God has made it impossible for His truth to be "covered over" or "hidden" -- not even Satan can accomplish it.
What Satan CAN DO however - is put blinders on our eyes -- so that we cannot see what is plainly right in front of us.
Humility => Knowledge + Awareness + Discernment
"Welcome to the real world, Neo..."
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AgeofKnowledge
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I may be on the narrow path Christ talked about but I'm certainly not ignorant nor a sheep. Wrongfully attacking my good character in a futile attempt to position yourself as someone who's better than me adds zero legitimacy to any argument you make but rather reveals a flaw in your own character.
In logic, fallacious ad hominem is to be disregarded and the person engaging in it corrected. It would be wise of you to take a moment to think about that before responding to me further.
As an educated person, I will be happy to qualify any conspiracy theories that you wish to discuss correcting and refuting any false assertions discovered in the process even if you find such correction and refutation painful to your ego.
I will also be happy to forward to the moderators of this website any inappropriate name-calling and language that you choose of your will to engage in so that you'll be eventually held accountable for it for if you are unable to make an argument or engage in a discussion without calling people names, degrading them, deriding their character, etc... then you need to go as this isn't a venue for that behavior.
That said, I do understand how frustrating Nautilus's recalcitrance can be. But attack what he says if you disagree with it, attack his behavior if it's inappropriate, attack his view of the world if it's in error in your view, but don't degrade him or try to deny the Imago Dei from which he is formed.
Now let's dig in. Which conspiracy theory would you like to discuss first? Illuminati? You choose one and I shall address it.
In logic, fallacious ad hominem is to be disregarded and the person engaging in it corrected. It would be wise of you to take a moment to think about that before responding to me further.
As an educated person, I will be happy to qualify any conspiracy theories that you wish to discuss correcting and refuting any false assertions discovered in the process even if you find such correction and refutation painful to your ego.
I will also be happy to forward to the moderators of this website any inappropriate name-calling and language that you choose of your will to engage in so that you'll be eventually held accountable for it for if you are unable to make an argument or engage in a discussion without calling people names, degrading them, deriding their character, etc... then you need to go as this isn't a venue for that behavior.
That said, I do understand how frustrating Nautilus's recalcitrance can be. But attack what he says if you disagree with it, attack his behavior if it's inappropriate, attack his view of the world if it's in error in your view, but don't degrade him or try to deny the Imago Dei from which he is formed.
Now let's dig in. Which conspiracy theory would you like to discuss first? Illuminati? You choose one and I shall address it.
The ice bucket challenge was a goofy fundraiser for ALS. That succeeded far beyond people's expectations. SO people participating in this is weird? Should we not donate money to organizations fighting terrible diseases?
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gema923
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Gary A,
I have not attacked your friend Nautilus. Maybe you should go back and read his post and then my reply and so on. I have always ended my replies with, "I love you or I love you like a brother, you are always welcome in my home, etc...." I have never ended it any other way. He is the one who started bashing and name calling but since he's your friend you can overlook that behavior. If this is a Christian Web Site, I am just curious as to what posts or threads the true Christians are on?? This constant barrage of assaults is far from God like and if you people want to own this thread or post, you can have it. Just remember, the hate you have toward anyone, when you die, if you do not have that cleared up, God will impose the same hate upon you! I don't have no ill will toward anybody but it's clear the hearts of some are not pure and profess to be God fairing people. You can lie to yourselves but you can't lie to God. He knows exactly what's in your heart.
I have not attacked your friend Nautilus. Maybe you should go back and read his post and then my reply and so on. I have always ended my replies with, "I love you or I love you like a brother, you are always welcome in my home, etc...." I have never ended it any other way. He is the one who started bashing and name calling but since he's your friend you can overlook that behavior. If this is a Christian Web Site, I am just curious as to what posts or threads the true Christians are on?? This constant barrage of assaults is far from God like and if you people want to own this thread or post, you can have it. Just remember, the hate you have toward anyone, when you die, if you do not have that cleared up, God will impose the same hate upon you! I don't have no ill will toward anybody but it's clear the hearts of some are not pure and profess to be God fairing people. You can lie to yourselves but you can't lie to God. He knows exactly what's in your heart.
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GaryA
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"That's right -- let's not put forth our efforts to attack each other -- let's discuss the information."
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gema923
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Nautilus,
I think donating money is a great idea. But do we all need to be followers to something we know nothing about. Raising money is always a great cause for a great charity, but by doing the challenge, it gets people out of donating money. Only those who refuse to do the challenge have to pay.
I think donating money is a great idea. But do we all need to be followers to something we know nothing about. Raising money is always a great cause for a great charity, but by doing the challenge, it gets people out of donating money. Only those who refuse to do the challenge have to pay.
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GaryA
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GaryA
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I have nothing against Nautilus; however, we do actually disagree a lot. HAHA 
However - "I try my best" - to never attack a person on here merely for having expressed their opinion.
I am in agreement with AgeofKnowledge - in that - we should keep our focus on the information being discussed - and not allow ourselves to get sidetracked by "name-calling", "mud-slinging", etc.
I will say all day that the illuminati do exist. Nautilus will say all day that the illuminati do not exist. So then - we can "agree to disagree agreeably" all day...
"And, at the end of the day - let there be no ill-will between us..."
However - "I try my best" - to never attack a person on here merely for having expressed their opinion.
I am in agreement with AgeofKnowledge - in that - we should keep our focus on the information being discussed - and not allow ourselves to get sidetracked by "name-calling", "mud-slinging", etc.
I will say all day that the illuminati do exist. Nautilus will say all day that the illuminati do not exist. So then - we can "agree to disagree agreeably" all day...
"And, at the end of the day - let there be no ill-will between us..."