Trump could win all 50 states

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atwhatcost

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Someone said that the candidates should have to wear patches, jackets and underwear that has all their sponsors in bright colors and neato graphics. lol. The one thing that I like about Trump is that he's his own man and he doesn't take crap from people.
The one thing I fear about Trump is he has the money and desire to go Independent when he's not chosen as the primary, splitting the ticket and letting the woman-criminal be next President.

Him not giving a crap just means he's a lame duck at his inauguration -- if he'd make it that far, which he won't.
 
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atwhatcost

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That and now that the U.S. is in such debt it needs to be managed like a business.....this is the last chance to change the course of this country IF it is not too late already!
Congress can always do what they did to GM -- cancel the retirement plan.
 
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atwhatcost

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Isn't it ironic that the ones who don't know how to run a business are the same ones that turned the US into a business? Lol
Nah! Businesses watch their bottom line. Congress spends money like it's Black Friday all year long.
 
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Sirk

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The one thing I fear about Trump is he has the money and desire to go Independent when he's not chosen as the primary, splitting the ticket and letting the woman-criminal be next President.

Him not giving a crap just means he's a lame duck at his inauguration -- if he'd make it that far, which he won't.
I'm not so fast to count him out. There is no doubt the knives are gonna come out if he hangs in there. He is resonating with people.

I was having a Facebook convo with a friend the other day and he was all...Trump is terrible...he's an ego maniac, he doesn't know what he's talking about, he hates women etc..etc. I got a message from him tonight that said he thinks he might have been wrong about Trump.
 

Angela53510

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Regarding the OP:

So goes the late, great American nation!
 
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jennymae

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If Trump makes it to office he will sooner or later get some 'gate' on his hands...his choice of VP will be mighty important.
 
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tanach

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Can anyone give me some info on what Donald Trumps policies are? I know he is anti immigration but apart from that I have know idea. I would be particulary interested in his foreign policy and whether I should start building a fallout shelter!!
 
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jennymae

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Can anyone give me some info on what Donald Trumps policies are? I know he is anti immigration but apart from that I have know idea. I would be particulary interested in his foreign policy and whether I should start building a fallout shelter!!
I think 'nuke em' covers most of his foreign policy...:p
 
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tanach

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jennymac Thanks for that. If I am not on site for a while you will know I'm busy bunker building.
 
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BradC

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Most of us have been around for almost half a century and we have been observing politics and the state of our nation. If we are to be a great nation with all the freedoms that have been granted us according to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, then we will have a government that exercises itself in the manner that has been ascribed. Our government must exercise itself with wisdom and discretion in the times in which we live. It must allow the states to exercise themselves within the perimeters of their own governing body according to the will of the people. It must protect and provide for the welfare of all the states and its people from various bodies and nations that are alienated from us or who have purposed to do us harm at home or abroad. It must provide a well trained militia and military that will protect and secure the people and the interests of the United States in their persons, their property and in their legitimate endeavors to pursue life, to prosper as a free people and in their pursuit of happiness. The government must not allow constant regulations or make laws that hinder the progress and creativity of these pursuits.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Trump isn't going to win one state, much less all 50. His support will never grow to more than a quarter of the Republican Party, and certainly much less a percentage than that among the entire electorate. He is nothing more than another John Anderson or Ross Perot, who excited some people, angered others, becoming divisive factors in elections that were both won by Democrats, thanks to their misbegotten candidacies.
 
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Trump isn't going to win one state, much less all 50. His support will never grow to more than a quarter of the Republican Party, and certainly much less a percentage than that among the entire electorate. He is nothing more than another John Anderson or Ross Perot, who excited some people, angered others, becoming divisive factors in elections that were both won by Democrats, thanks to their misbegotten candidacies.

https://www.facebook.com/TheKellyFile/videos/vb.1413426908872170/1701396353408556/?type=2&theater
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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What's that got to do with the fact he's never going to have more than a quarter of the GOP voters? What's that got to do with the fact he is unelectable? What's that got to do with the fact that he will run as a third-party candidate because he will not be the GOP nominee? What's that got to do with the fact he's a liberal disguising himself as a conservative who will hand the key to the White House to some Democrat?

And I've been listening to your video while I wrote this. Took me nearly all three minutes.

In which time Donald Trump talked and talked and talked and didn't say a damned thing! And yet he claims, "I'm not a politician." Sure has got the act down good, then.
 
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Sirk

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What's that got to do with the fact he's never going to have more than a quarter of the GOP voters? What's that got to do with the fact he is unelectable? What's that got to do with the fact that he will run as a third-party candidate because he will not be the GOP nominee? What's that got to do with the fact he's a liberal disguising himself as a conservative who will hand the key to the White House to some Democrat?

And I've been listening to your video while I wrote this. Took me nearly all three minutes.

In which time Donald Trump talked and talked and talked and didn't say a damned thing! And yet he claims, "I'm not a politician." Sure has got the act down good, then.

Come on veedub. Throwing the fact word around is disingenuous at this stage. Let's see what happens. We don't know the future.

I for one think he said A LOT.....and one of the things he is saying to me...is that he loves America, the American people...and the rule of law. OF course this is my opinion but I have a track record of being a great judge of character and being able to spot bs when I see it. So far, Trump has not struck me as someone who is a liar and doesn't do what he says he will do. Unlike every other politician in the last 50 years.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Come on veedub. Throwing the fact word around is disingenuous at this stage.
Actually, facts are facts, These are them:

When you have a simple horse-race like these polls are, as conducted, what it doesn’t tell you is whether that candidate has room to grow, or whether they’re near their peak. In the case of Donald Trump, he’s got huge negatives. He’s disliked by large components of the Republican base. When Republican voters were asked “Would you ever vote for this man?” in some surveys, more than half of Republican voters said they wouldn’t. So 24 per cent, or whatever number he’s at now, could be very close to the ceiling for him.

Relatively few voters give him as a second choice, which means he’s maxed out of the field. With so many candidates in the field, it’s not such a bad thing to be people’s second choice, and so there are many candidates who are polling below him, but who are people’s second choice, and those candidates are probably more worth watching than Mr. Trump. Carson, Fiorina, Rubio, and Cruz lead the pack as someone's "second choice," and in past elections, the early second choices often wind up on the upper or lower part of the ticket.

Let's see what happens. We don't know the future.
No, but history is a good predictor. Trump is already done. He just doesn't know it yet. And while he and you think he's got a lot of support, and that it comes because ...

... he loves America, the American people...and the rule of law ...
... those are nothing more than platitudes. Hell, Obama said those things eight years ago!

You think he said a lot in the clip from Megyn's website? C'mon man, it's a three minutes string of nine-second soundbites, and if you listen to it again, you will be forced to agree. There's no substance, no initiative, no "real" there. It's all image, it's all smoke and mirrors, it's all "sound and fury -- signifying nothing." Even the "comprehensive immigration plan" he offered last week is empty of real, doable actions. In fact, most of it is hyperbole.

OF course this is my opinion but I have a track record of being a great judge of character and being able to spot bs when I see it. So far, Trump has not struck me as someone who is a liar and doesn't do what he says he will do. Unlike every other politician in the last 50 years.
Your judgment is clouded and your B/S meter is broken. The man has no record whatsoever of being anything but a ruthless cutthroat with Donald Trump as his own best interest. If you were really willing to face reality, you would have checked out the Internet like I challenged you to do a couple weeks ago and seen how big a turd this man really is.
 
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BradC

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Never count out any man who the people can relate to or a candidate that can relate to people. True, Trump is not a politician in the political sense but he is a negotiator who has the interest of the American people and country at heart. That is something that must be reckoned with and it is a very hard thing to be critical of. If there is a candidate on both sides of the aisle that can reduce the deficit and the debt, I believe Trump is more than qualified then any candidate to date. How he goes about doing it would not be the orthodox way that we are accustomed to here in the US of A. I believe that many underestimate his ability to get things done, even if it involves a congress of two houses. There is only three qualifications for the Presidency, being 35 years of age, fourteen years a resident and a natural born citizen. The rest of what we look for is honesty, integrity, passion and heart and a willingness to serve the best interest of all the American people.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Never count out any man who the people can relate to or a candidate that can relate to people. True, Trump is not a politician in the political sense but he is a negotiator who has the interest of the American people and country at heart.
I'd be interested in knowing what information you base that opinion on.

That is something that must be reckoned with and it is a very hard thing to be critical of.
If it's real, absolutely. What proof is there prior to the last three months that it's real?

If there is a candidate on both sides of the aisle that can reduce the deficit and the debt, I believe Trump is more than qualified then any candidate to date.
So far he has suggested a healthcare program that costs about the same as Obamacare, he won't revise the tax code to make the system fair and equitable, and his debt reduction program is not only non-existent, he hasn't even really said he would do that.

How he goes about doing it would not be the orthodox way that we are accustomed to here in the US of A. I believe that many underestimate his ability to get things done, even if it involves a congress of two houses.
For something to be "orthodox" or "unorthodox" it has to be a known quantity. Trump has nothing out there to tell us what, exactly that approach would be, much less to know if it is orthodox or not.

There is only three qualifications for the Presidency, being 35 years of age, fourteen years a resident and a natural born citizen. The rest of what we look for is honesty, integrity, passion and heart and a willingness to serve the best interest of all the American people.
He meets the three constitutional requirements, true. Honest? He's going to court in New York for running a sham "real estate school." Integrity? Covered that with the lawsuit. Passion? For himself, no doubt. Heart? Can't know that for certain, because he's mostly loud and bombastic, not typical traits of a man described as having "heart." Willingness to serve our best interests? I'm pretty certain his lengthy history in business and entertainment shows he's only willing to serve Donald Trump's interests.
 
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For some reason it was the last sentence in the article stuck out the most:

"The left-leaning cable news operation offered that assessment because of the GOP candidate’s
stated belief that sexual orientation should not be a valid reason for an employer to let someone go."

What if the employer is a church?
politics in the uk is different to the usa, in a lot of ways. but somethings stay the same. there spin doctor of each candidate,(usa) will look at a pie chat, as i call it, you would possibly, call that an opinion poll, a surrey of all usa people. done by some independent company.

for example
they dont need to care about anti or pro gay, all they need to know, is how many of the usa voters, stand on the issue. so they can target most of the usa vote.

you can pick any issue, that they stand for, how many are gay, how many could not care less, political correctness, health, education, to name some.

mixing church and politics is pointless.
sin is sin, break one, you break them all. would you expect a christian church, to understand that. and when did the church change laws that run the usa.or the uk, so in simple terms, the churches have no power in a political world. yes christians have a vote, yet still are split in political issues , never mind the differences in religions , taboos and dogmas.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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1. He can't deport en masse 11 to 30 million illegals. Each deportation requires an immigration court hearing. It will be a logistical nightmare, and it will take years if not decades.

2. He can't revoke the citizenship of the so-called "anchor babies." The Fourteenth Amendment, like it or not, is what makes them citizens. Are we going to repeal the Fourteenth?

3. If we build a wall, they'll come in by sea. If we blockade the costs, they'll come in by air. If we institute a "no-fly" zone at the borders and beaches, they'll start coming in through Canada. We can't stop them from coming in. We can only deport them immediately upon their being discovered, and to be effective we have to get serious about enforcement and apprehension.
 
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jennymae

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1. He can't deport en masse 11 to 30 million illegals. Each deportation requires an immigration court hearing. It will be a logistical nightmare, and it will take years if not decades.

2. He can't revoke the citizenship of the so-called "anchor babies." The Fourteenth Amendment, like it or not, is what makes them citizens. Are we going to repeal the Fourteenth?

3. If we build a wall, they'll come in by sea. If we blockade the costs, they'll come in by air. If we institute a "no-fly" zone at the borders and beaches, they'll start coming in through Canada. We can't stop them from coming in. We can only deport them immediately upon their being discovered, and to be effective we have to get serious about enforcement and apprehension.
You are right, the Trump way is the way of a dictator...a dictator dont play well with state rights...