Obsession with Confession (1 John 1:9, sin confession)
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There we have it, a DIRECT ANSWER which undercuts all rhetoric.
This individual literally believes that a serial killer, a thief, a child molester, an adulterer, a pornographer can be forgiven without having to forsake murdering, stealing, molesting, adultery, etc.
Even though the Bible says things like...
Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
...these people do not care. They think that one can "receive Jesus" and yet not be a doer of His word. The very word which saves the soul they do not believe that one has to conduct themselves in accordance with it.
What kind of Christianity is this? Is that the message Jesus preached to people?
Honestly, how so many people buy into this kind of obvious nonsense is simply astounding.
One can point to verses like this...
Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
...yet they simply do not believe it. In their mind sin only has to be confessed not forsaken. They think a child molester can confess their child molestation to God and continue to molest children and actually be forgiven.
Think about that folks. Is that what you really want to uphold as the truth?
If you believe that how can you claim you are not a sin defender? Willie just argued in favour of being able to molest children and yet be in a reconciled state to God. That is astounding is it not?
Luk 23:33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.
Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Luk 23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
You take that passage and imply it means that a child molester can be forgiven in the midst of molestation?
Jesus was not bitter at those whom were mocking him and those whom were putting him to death. He wanted God to forgive them. Yet Jesus wanting God to forgive them does not mean God was going to forgive them absent those people repenting.
The Bible contends for repentance and a forsaking of wickedness from cover to cover so why don't you?
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
How much clearer could it be?
Rom 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Yet you think a child molester can continue to molest children and inherit eternal life?
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
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Walking in the flesh however does not mean walking in sin though that can be a part of it. Walking in the flesh is perceiving everything only after the flesh senses. To walk in the flesh is to only consider the flesh, to base everything on the 5 senses. To be fleshly, carnally minded.
In other words to do exactly what everyone who bases their salvation on works does. They look only to their own flesh and how well they can control it for their assurance of salvation. They are indeed carnally minded.
In other words to do exactly what everyone who bases their salvation on works does. They look only to their own flesh and how well they can control it for their assurance of salvation. They are indeed carnally minded.
K
All you seem to focus on is just the first verse of Romans 8 that I agree was added on, but Apostle repeats this same thing in verses 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 15 that walking by the flesh will lead to eternal death. But walking by the Spirit leads to eternal life, for those who walk by the Spirit are His by adoption !!!
You can ignore the first verse all you want but you can not ignore all the proceeding verses that say the same exact thing !!!
You can ignore the first verse all you want but you can not ignore all the proceeding verses that say the same exact thing !!!
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'Fear GOd and KEEP His Commandments, for this is the whole DUTY of MAN....
as it is written,
REV.14:7.
Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come:
and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
1JOHN 5:2.
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
the MESSAGE is the SAME, from the beginning unto the end, Fear God and Keep His Commandments.....''
as it is written,
REV.14:7.
Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come:
and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
1JOHN 5:2.
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
the MESSAGE is the SAME, from the beginning unto the end, Fear God and Keep His Commandments.....''
K
Actually walking in the flesh is walking in sin, because walking in the flesh means you are serving yourself and not God.
You can not serve two masters and still be saved, and if one is using works to earn or maintain salvation then yes they are in sin. However if they speak on works as proof that one is saved and guided by the Holy Spirit then no they are not walking in the flesh.
Carnally minded means you believe you can still live in serving sin and still be saved !!!
You can not serve two masters and still be saved, and if one is using works to earn or maintain salvation then yes they are in sin. However if they speak on works as proof that one is saved and guided by the Holy Spirit then no they are not walking in the flesh.
Carnally minded means you believe you can still live in serving sin and still be saved !!!
K
Once again I do not reject those verb tenses you keep trying to use to push your agenda, what I reject is your personal private interpretation of them, not those verses themselves.
I put them in proper understanding by the grace of God for allowing me to have this understanding by His Holy Spirit so that the words of Jesus, Peter, and Paul all align with one another.
I put them in proper understanding by the grace of God for allowing me to have this understanding by His Holy Spirit so that the words of Jesus, Peter, and Paul all align with one another.