U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates

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Mitspa

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So you'd be okay with a devil worshipper too, as long as the person is against gay marriage? That is sick, disturbing, and so far against Christianity, that I really need to leave this thread for good.
Look man...even sinners have the right in our society to stand against evil and wickedness ...not sure why that bothers you or why you cant understand the point being made?
 

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Look man...even sinners have the right in our society to stand against evil and wickedness ...not sure why that bothers you or why you cant understand the point being made?
Why would a devil worshipper bother me? Gee, I don't know. That's a tough question. Hmm... You're unbelievable. You really are.
 
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Mitspa

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Why would a devil worshipper bother? Geez... I don't know. That's a tough question... You're unbelievable.
That's not the point...the point is that everyone ...saint and sinner has the right to resist evil and we should encourage that as Christians ... not excuse and promote sin by pointing to other sin.
 

jsr1221

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That's not the point...the point is that everyone ...saint and sinner has the right to resist evil and we should encourage that as Christians ... not excuse and promote sin by pointing to other sin.
But you just appointed the sin of worshipping and being part of the occult.. I don't understand how you're okay with that. Or how you don't see that. I really don't. You hate one sin so much that you just said you'd be okay with someone worshipping the one that torments and tempts people, the ultimate enemy of Jesus. How you feel that's okay is just sickening to me.
 
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But you just appointed the sin of worshipping and being part of the occult.. I don't understand how you're okay with that. Or how you don't see that. I really don't. You hate one sin so much that you just said you'd be okay with someone worshipping the one that torments and tempts people, the ultimate enemy of Jesus. How you feel that's okay is just sickening to me.
Sure again..everybody...every citizen has the right to resist this perversion of our society.
 

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JSR -Devil worship is not the topic at hand.
 

jsr1221

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Sure again..everybody...every citizen has the right to resist this perversion of our society.
And to you, it's not a pervision to worship the enemy? It's not a sin to worship the enemy? Okay then... I think you're in need of a different fellowship site.
 

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If this decision stands, I, as a Southern Baptist Christian, will no longer be able to be employed in any government job, serve in the US Armed Forces, teach in public school, and a whole list of other jobs, including self employment, because I do not accept the homosexual relationship as acceptable. Since nearly half of the jobs in the US are to some extent supported by the Government, I lose the ability to compete for nearly half the jobs in my career field.

Finally, it makes it impossible for me to meet the new standards for candidacy to elected office.
Don't give up hope in our democratic republic form of government. Support candidates who are most likely to increase in numbers of agreement, couple with a moral President (unlike the present one), pushing through Constitutional Amendments the states would gladly support. It would require but a relatively small change in elected officials to enact legislation that limits the power of the Administration, the USSC and lower courts that refuse to simply uphold existing law. "bench legislation" could easily be eradicated, at least by passing retroactive term limits on all judges.

Meanwhile, I worked decades for federal government, developing ways to shift into private business supplying enhanced versions of government services. I had to wait 5 years before enacting some of my most lucrative plans since I got the experience on their payroll. Just becoming a consultant to the feds and private clients in one tiny specialty quadrupled my federal income the first year. Along the way I never faced having to compromise my own positions over immorality. I learned not to hire too many people, choosing tasks that could be done usually by myself, sub-contracting help from time to time.

Be wise about all this. Many government employees are not opposed to morality, which I wore to uphold along with existing law. As an officer of the U.S. I was held to a far more intense scrutiny than most, never threatened for my career. As long as I supported the Constitution and existing laws, my agencies always stood by me regardless of what some lawbreakers tried to curse me with.
The people most likely to suffer persecution are like the cupcake shops, private entrepreneurs who take a stand against immorality while keeping their doors open to the public. They have constitutional rights too, but the court of "popular opinion" lately trumps their rights out of fear of the very vocal tiny minority of perverts on borrowed time.

What's needed is for the majority of respectable Americans to speak loudly through voting and holding elected official's feet to the fire, then supporting them when they go to battle. If we remain silent, then the vocal few will rule just like a crowned king or any other of the dozens of ***cracy types of children of the Devil with a tiny police force carrying out tyranny.
 
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Mitspa

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And to you, it's not a pervision to worship the enemy? It's not a sin to worship the enemy? Okay then... I think you're in need of a different fellowship site.
Well that's not the point...the point is about this womans right to stand against this wickedness ... Its a constitutional point about her rights....are you not able to grasp this simple point?
 
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Mitspa

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But Mitspa flat out said he'd be okay if someone did that.
Yes all people ...all citizens ...saints and sinners should stand against this perversion of our society... Amen?
 

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I feel sick to my stomach by reading such comments, and approving such comments. I should have left before seeing such a disturbing thing. I am now. You and those that approve what Mitspa said earlier, can be that worshipper.. Since It's okay to you all.
 
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I don't think these guys really believe in all that hell and judgment stuff...unless its for those who uphold what is right before God.
I was tasked to drive to hurricane Katrina, hauling a military surplus generator, and GPS mapping equipment. About 70 miles short of my destination I came to a traffic jam on a US highway caused by people backing up off a small state highway, a long line of vehicles backing up from a damaged bridge. When I got closer I saw the barricade with "BRIDGE OUT" had been set aside, the warning in full view. I called it in and was reassigned to put the barricade back in place and direct traffic until further notice. I witnessed the pits of humanity that day, people who saw the warning, yet chose to go past it trying to take a back road to home from the other side of a Pearl River tributary. I knew that was would be impossible. I had challenges guarding my payload too. It was the first time I ever walked around on duty with my cocked pistol in hand.

I "could have" just driven on past all that mess justifying it saying "it is being announced on the radio, and the warning was well printed on the barricade, and why would anyone choose to join a long line of stop lights signalling there's something wrong about taking that route? But I believe I did the right thing to help right a lot of stupid decisions.

I think the Lord used events like that to develop at least enough patience to warn people about things they are already warned about. There's always a mess associated with such re-warnings., assuming that's really a word.
 
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Why would a devil worshipper bother me? Gee, I don't know. That's a tough question. Hmm... You're unbelievable. You really are.
Im absolutely sure that Mitspa is not okay with devil worship, and that he was merely making the point that she should have her rights without being punished for standing for them.

Youve kinda lost your argument entirely with this, its like youve left real arguing to make Mitspa sound like some monster because youve ran out of arguments :/
 

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Okay so I'm going to run for president and I will pass all of my legislation based on the Bible. It will now be illegal to use profanity, to gamble, to lie, it will even be a legal to have impure thoughts.
 

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Okay so I'm going to run for president and I will pass all of my legislation based on the Bible. It will now be illegal to use profanity, to gamble, to lie, it will even be a legal to have impure thoughts.
If you can pass legislation on peoples thoughts, then go ahead :p
 
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BarlyGurl

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Well that's not the point...the point is about this womans right to stand against this wickedness ... Its a constitutional point about her rights....are you not able to grasp this simple point?
At this point... I am not sure what your point is... to idolize Kim Davis, glorify the constitution or honor devil worshippers for sharing your personal opinion... :confused:
 
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Im absolutely sure that Mitspa is not okay with devil worship, and that he was merely making the point that she should have her rights without being punished for standing for them.

Youve kinda lost your argument entirely with this, its like youve left real arguing to make Mitspa sound like some monster because youve ran out of arguments :/

You mean in the same way Mitspa has suggested jrs1221 is an unbeliever who promotes same sex marriage... by contorting the comments... even tho jsr tried to correct him. I see how you roll...:confused:
 

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You mean in the same way Mitspa has suggested jrs1221 is an unbeliever who promotes same sex marriage... by contorting the comments... even tho jsr tried to correct him. I see how you roll...:confused:

I cant really tell you that I believe that someone who objects to someone who stands for Gods word is a follower of God, tbh with you :/

Thats not a comment on JSR btw, I do not know anything about this member, only that he continues to make Mitspa look like a bad guy.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Please present your proof that you alone are equipped to judge her. Bible would be a good source, since you keep claiming you only have the mind of God.
NO WHERE have I EVER claimed what you FALSELY ACCUSE.... not ever... I don't know how you can even try to suggest that is a mistake on your part... since you plainly state I KEEP CLAIMING it... you might want to have your dosage checked by your medical provider... your mind is not right.