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None of that proves that prophets are incapable or never willing to ignore other people. Prophets are also human beings, so they might even choose to ignore someone when it isn't the best thing to do. Jesus did not answer the SyroPhonecian woman who came to Him for some period of time until His disciples interceded with Him. He didn't answer His accusers.
Btw, I don't have anyone on 'ignore.' It makes no sense to me. I'd like a feature where I could keep other people from posting on certain occasions, but I don't see the point of everyone else reading someone else's comments and me not being able to see it.
Btw, I don't have anyone on 'ignore.' It makes no sense to me. I'd like a feature where I could keep other people from posting on certain occasions, but I don't see the point of everyone else reading someone else's comments and me not being able to see it.
atwhatcost,
I suggest you read the few lines of mine you read and get straight what I actually said. Where did I say you shouldn't ignore anyone? I commented on the theories about prophets. I'm arguing against the idea that prophets never ignore people, not your squabbles with other posters. That's a silly argument. If the NIV is right, there are certain people that should be ignored, so prophets should ignore them to. You shouldn't make up stuff about the Bible, or the characters in the Bible, or people with Biblical ministry gifts, to support your position in a squabble with another poster.
And prophets are human and 'subject to like passions' as the rest of us. Moses and Miriam both prophesied, but Miriam spoke ill of Moses. I wouldn't venture to guess whether Moses ever argued with Miriam or ignored her. These are people we are talking about. These statements that a prophet would never do this or a prophet would never do that... followed by some normal thing that humans do (e.g. ignore people) are just silly. Jesus apparently ignored the Syrophonecian woman, or wasn't responding to her. Jesus didn't respond to various accusers and persecutors before He was crucified.
I suggest you read the few lines of mine you read and get straight what I actually said. Where did I say you shouldn't ignore anyone? I commented on the theories about prophets. I'm arguing against the idea that prophets never ignore people, not your squabbles with other posters. That's a silly argument. If the NIV is right, there are certain people that should be ignored, so prophets should ignore them to. You shouldn't make up stuff about the Bible, or the characters in the Bible, or people with Biblical ministry gifts, to support your position in a squabble with another poster.
And prophets are human and 'subject to like passions' as the rest of us. Moses and Miriam both prophesied, but Miriam spoke ill of Moses. I wouldn't venture to guess whether Moses ever argued with Miriam or ignored her. These are people we are talking about. These statements that a prophet would never do this or a prophet would never do that... followed by some normal thing that humans do (e.g. ignore people) are just silly. Jesus apparently ignored the Syrophonecian woman, or wasn't responding to her. Jesus didn't respond to various accusers and persecutors before He was crucified.
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But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort.
(1 Corinthians 14:3)
(1 Corinthians 14:3)
let's not ignore this, yes?
Thanks presidente I can see you have thought about these issues regarding ministries in the body of Christ. Usually those with too much negative stuff to say about prophets will preface it all by saying "I am not a prophet"...thinking that puts them in the clear and they can say what they like. But the Bible is clear that the authority in the church rests with the apostles and prophets and it is therefore the authority of God which they fight against.
So apart from this false authority there is also a very negative and quenching spirit around which wants to close down any move of God by control tactics, and sometimes blatant false doctrine which they fight tooth and nail to uphold. Of course there are false prophets out there but it takes discernment to spot them, whichs on these threads is often an attribute somewhat conspicuous by its absence. They will suck up to you if you seem to be someone who will agree with them but as soon as you start telling the truth of how it is, or even putting forth an alternative opinion as you would be entitled to do, it will not be long before they perceive a threat to their pack mentality and start baying for blood.
Matt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
There is nothing new under the sun. The murderous hatred towards prophets was well known by Elijah, and that Jezebel spirit is still at work today. We know what the end will be for that but meanwhile we have to deal with it as best we can.....or not....as the Lord leads.
We can take our comfort from the word of God as follows:
2 Peter 2: 9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they,
selfwilled,
they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12 But these, as
natural brute beasts,
made to be taken and destroyed,
speak evil of the things that they understand not;
and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
Read the whole chapter, and know that judgment is coming (vs 3) they will not be permitted to mess about forever.
He who has ears to hear the word of warning, let him hear.
So apart from this false authority there is also a very negative and quenching spirit around which wants to close down any move of God by control tactics, and sometimes blatant false doctrine which they fight tooth and nail to uphold. Of course there are false prophets out there but it takes discernment to spot them, whichs on these threads is often an attribute somewhat conspicuous by its absence. They will suck up to you if you seem to be someone who will agree with them but as soon as you start telling the truth of how it is, or even putting forth an alternative opinion as you would be entitled to do, it will not be long before they perceive a threat to their pack mentality and start baying for blood.
Matt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
There is nothing new under the sun. The murderous hatred towards prophets was well known by Elijah, and that Jezebel spirit is still at work today. We know what the end will be for that but meanwhile we have to deal with it as best we can.....or not....as the Lord leads.
We can take our comfort from the word of God as follows:
2 Peter 2: 9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they,
selfwilled,
they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12 But these, as
natural brute beasts,
made to be taken and destroyed,
speak evil of the things that they understand not;
and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
Read the whole chapter, and know that judgment is coming (vs 3) they will not be permitted to mess about forever.
He who has ears to hear the word of warning, let him hear.
P
May I ask what's with the boasting, through grace you are saved through faith , least any man should boast.
It is by the power of God by his hand and according to his will that you are anything.
Have respect for his saints here too.
In fact leave for you are not received. I asked for fruits and there were none given only strife. If you take this for a sign to show me that all is what you say then you are mistaken for the Lord's house is always in order.
It is by the power of God by his hand and according to his will that you are anything.
Have respect for his saints here too.
In fact leave for you are not received. I asked for fruits and there were none given only strife. If you take this for a sign to show me that all is what you say then you are mistaken for the Lord's house is always in order.
really? so all those preists who used the church to molest boys. where was god? dosnt matter catholic 7 day luthern what ever of the 30000 different sect of christanity you are. the hairs on your head are numberd but he didn't help the most innocent. kids are innocent no matter what hate there taught when there old enough
i don't live by a first century book. that knew nothing of gers or deiase. so it was a curse from god. gotta sacrifice some one. look its the 21 first century the only thing that hasn't been proven is. is there a god i cant say there isn't. i cant prove a negative. just like u cant prove the easter bunny isn't real. just cause u havnt seen him don't make him unreal. do you know all the christan holidays like xmas and easter were stolen from the secular world
That really doesn't have much to do with what you said or what I said. But I think you are making stuff up again. Where do we read in the Bible that every prophet is sent to all of God's people? I don't know that. You don't know that. There may have been prophets sent to just Israel or just Judah, or to one church or to the churches in one region.
And what does this have to do with whether a prophet can ignore someone? If a prophet ignores someone, that doesn't prove he's not a prophet. That's not a Biblical test of whether someone is a prophet.
And what does this have to do with whether a prophet can ignore someone? If a prophet ignores someone, that doesn't prove he's not a prophet. That's not a Biblical test of whether someone is a prophet.
convallaria wrote,
I suppose the whole church has some authority and everyone in the body has some measure of authority to walk in his or her calling and ministry, so I don't disagree with the idea of apostles and prophets having authority. I don't see 'prophet' as a church government role, per se. Some people read that idea into Ephesians 4:11. Prophets have authority to speak and communicate the message they receive. But the apostles appointed elders/overseers in every church to oversee and pastor the flock. And Paul's and his co-laborers' 'measure of rule' had a boundary to it. It included churches in the regions where they had introduced the Gospel of Christ. Paul didn't go exercising his 'authority' in Jerusalem by telling them what to do. He took counsel from the elders there. Yet he was the one giving counsel to the elders in Ephesus, where he and his co-workers had laid the foundation of Christ.
I suppose the whole church has some authority and everyone in the body has some measure of authority to walk in his or her calling and ministry, so I don't disagree with the idea of apostles and prophets having authority. I don't see 'prophet' as a church government role, per se. Some people read that idea into Ephesians 4:11. Prophets have authority to speak and communicate the message they receive. But the apostles appointed elders/overseers in every church to oversee and pastor the flock. And Paul's and his co-laborers' 'measure of rule' had a boundary to it. It included churches in the regions where they had introduced the Gospel of Christ. Paul didn't go exercising his 'authority' in Jerusalem by telling them what to do. He took counsel from the elders there. Yet he was the one giving counsel to the elders in Ephesus, where he and his co-workers had laid the foundation of Christ.
the reality is that all authority belongs to Christ, and Christ lives in each of us.
no single member of the body has exclusive access to the mind of Christ, but we are all used by the Spirit to carry out His will on earth.
so it is that whoever claims to be a prophet should be tested and what he says carefully weighed, and how the Jews in Berea were praised for being 'more noble' because they tested everything the apostle said against the scripture, and how we are taught by the Spirit to 'test' every spirit.
there are many false teachers and many false prophets in the world, and each of us too is capable of being deceived or being at fault - so that we are a body, and Christ is the head, and all parts are to work together under the direction of that Head, not under any single human authority that should be accepted as speaking ex-cathedra.
the ones set up as elders were chosen as people faithful to the gospel they had received, and even they were subject to being at fault (1 Timothy 5). and though Peter & Barnabas were 'authorities' doesn't the scripture record Paul standing up to them to correct them? because the Spirit of God is our authority, and the scripture He inspired our guide, not any single human and his human mind or human interpretation of it.
this is why -- rightly so -- we reject the idea that someone who claims for himself a chair of authority over all of us has rule over of us pertaining to the things of God, but that the Spirit through all of us should weigh everything and discern what is right.
and that is key to the difference in the 'office of prophet' as understood in the OT, before Christ, and what is present with us today, now that we have Christ, and the Spirit that moves prophets is present in all who have put their trust in Him. the 'office' in that sense is held by Christ, and can be exercised by any of His servants, as the Lord Himself would move us and grant us to act as His mouth.
that is the sense in which 'the whole church' has this authority - not by democracy, but by monarchy, as the King of Kings rules over each one even as the whole. no single one of us takes His seat, but as He taught, we ought all to take the lowest seat at His feast, so that instead of being embarrassed & humbled by Him, being removed from the special place we thought to honor ourselves with, He might Himself invite us to sit in a better place.
no single member of the body has exclusive access to the mind of Christ, but we are all used by the Spirit to carry out His will on earth.
“You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
(Matthew 20:24-28)
(Matthew 20:24-28)
so it is that whoever claims to be a prophet should be tested and what he says carefully weighed, and how the Jews in Berea were praised for being 'more noble' because they tested everything the apostle said against the scripture, and how we are taught by the Spirit to 'test' every spirit.
there are many false teachers and many false prophets in the world, and each of us too is capable of being deceived or being at fault - so that we are a body, and Christ is the head, and all parts are to work together under the direction of that Head, not under any single human authority that should be accepted as speaking ex-cathedra.
the ones set up as elders were chosen as people faithful to the gospel they had received, and even they were subject to being at fault (1 Timothy 5). and though Peter & Barnabas were 'authorities' doesn't the scripture record Paul standing up to them to correct them? because the Spirit of God is our authority, and the scripture He inspired our guide, not any single human and his human mind or human interpretation of it.
this is why -- rightly so -- we reject the idea that someone who claims for himself a chair of authority over all of us has rule over of us pertaining to the things of God, but that the Spirit through all of us should weigh everything and discern what is right.
and that is key to the difference in the 'office of prophet' as understood in the OT, before Christ, and what is present with us today, now that we have Christ, and the Spirit that moves prophets is present in all who have put their trust in Him. the 'office' in that sense is held by Christ, and can be exercised by any of His servants, as the Lord Himself would move us and grant us to act as His mouth.
that is the sense in which 'the whole church' has this authority - not by democracy, but by monarchy, as the King of Kings rules over each one even as the whole. no single one of us takes His seat, but as He taught, we ought all to take the lowest seat at His feast, so that instead of being embarrassed & humbled by Him, being removed from the special place we thought to honor ourselves with, He might Himself invite us to sit in a better place.
E
presidente...I understand that you have an agenda here and rather than participate in what this thread is actually about, for some reason you appear to have doubts about your own practices and this thread refutes some of those practices with scripture...so, you are here trying to dismiss all I and others have posted. The simple truth is that you are attemtping to use scripture to uphold what you are already doing
This thread, by it's very natue, exposes what is false THROUGH scripture and I do realize that poses a threat to those who do not follow scripture but instead have evolved into a semi Christian new age convolution of everyone having words for everyone else to the point where one person thinks they know what another should say
That, is not at all biblical...so I get what you are doing here...you are defending what you already do, rather than checking out what you do against scripture.
So, I will go ahead and respond to what you wrote back to me, but then I am not going to bother because this is nothing more than a grudge match with you trying to cancel the purpose of this thread
You are, of course, free to start your own thread wherein you may expound on your practices, much to the joy, no doubt, of your compatriots here who also do not follow scripture and would like to control what is said here rather than allow the Bible to teach them. You may quote me on all of the above.
What you describe is not the correct use of the gift of a word of knowledge...again, I maintain my position that the practice of everyone having words or one person having words for everyone and basically speaking to one another while maintaining that it is God that has given you the knowledge, is nothing short of abuse. I don't care if everyone is spot on...if it was all lies would you still be doing it? Well no of course not! There is no biblical model for what you are doing....and I have seen this, been involved in it and want nothing to do with it because of the bad fruit that eventually falls off the crooked tree.
well there is a restriction concerning false teachers who go house to house luring people off into the bushes ...something to do with silly women (and men who fit the profile)...prophecy is not about individuals...Paul was a major Apostle...YOU are not...you don't take an exception and turn it into a doctrine
no no no...you have it all wrong...the Holy Spirit actually tells me...I don't tell Him. Some people flow in what comes out of the nether regions of bulls...and thousands do not seem able to tell the difference! I will proclaim to whoever will listen that lining up for personal prophecy is ABUSE and the Spirit of God is not in it! God knows the hearts of the people in that lineup and the one who will answer for what they are doing are the abusers of the gifts of God.
The Bible does not have to say don't do that...those who are atune to what God is saying and basically has already said KNOW you don't do that. The gifts are for the building up of the body of Christ...they are not parlor games to entertain and flatter the participant with things like:
God has His hand on your life! Oh I see you leading meetings! Oh I see that you love God and He is really going to use you!
Oh I have seen IT done too...which is why I violently and vehemently object to it!!! I have had it done over me and then spent much time in getting rid of IT! let me speak plainly here ... You do not give control over your life to another!!!! You only give your life to God and by His Spirit, He will lead and guide and conformation by other believers is one thing....but not that evil that passes for the Holy Spirit that gives people goosebumps and feelings of joy in their stomach...we should have the joy of the Lord in our spirits...JOY is not a physical sensation...what you experience is basically the same type of thing a practionner of true yoga practices....kundalini yoga...run my Christian friends...you do not want anything to do with this!
I really dislike what you have done here in trying to twist a legtimate example from scripture to suit yourself. Enquiring of God is what YOU ALL should be doing...so thanks for the examples....but you are describing enquiring from other human beings..thanks for making my point
What you covet IS NOT THE BIBLICAL GIFT OF PROPHECY. What the Holy Spirit revealed to Peter concerning Ananias and his wife was of God...yet, NOT PROPHECY! I have and sometimes do operate in the gift of knowledge and discerning of spirits...for example, a woman was all broken up and torn over her first husband who had died and she was remarried and not happy in the marriage. As we prayed together in a home meeting, it became clear to me that she was still carrying around the pictures of her husband...taking them out and mooning over them.
I didn't know that and didn't know the woman very well. So I spoke up and asked her "Why are you still carrying photos of your first husband around with you? You are married to a different man now and you have not committed to him in your heart." Well that was it for her...she sobbed and sobbed and admitted it was so...I did not tell her what to do...that was up to her...but I did see the problem. That's a word of knowledge and not direction and I did not ask for this gift nor have I EVER used it...there are times I know what I know but I just shut my whazoo and pray...I can see clearly what is coming down the tubes but people generally do not listen anyway...those who ask, I share...but again, a gift such as that is easy to misuse and I would sooner not have it...
My actual thoughts on any of it, is that God will choose to speak through anyone He chooses but He is choosey about whom He chooses...this is the first time I have given any example of something the Holy Spirit uses me for....I would never take that gift even though people have actually asked since I seem to get such clear answers...I would never take that gift and use it...I actually never wanted it, but God is good...and that will be the last time I give an example because I don't like flinging pearls and I do not name myself...let God name me or anyone else He chooses
That, is a far cry from lineups or pointing out someone and telling them what God's will is for their life. I realize that what I wrote may very well be used against me, but God knows and quite seriously, I would not do that if I were you. I'm nothing and prefer it to be so. I do have another very public gift...I sing prophetically...that is, scripture...and the Word of God ...I do not foretell...I forthtell...but I am not a prophet...merely one who shares what God has generously given...I've been asked many times to use this gift as a lead singer or worship leader, been asked to go on TV...oh lots of stuff...but God tells me no don't do that...and even though at the time I would have liked to do those things, years later I understand why I should not.
And I have never excepted money...been offered it for sure...but that is not what you do with a gift from God.
I also write regular songs...some of which others have sung...I don't care...it's not about me and since no one here knows me, I guess I cannot be accused of bragging.
So, you know, I'm just tired of all the rhetoric about what you all can do. It's lame. And I'm done.
The gifts are not for unbelievers. I am not surprised you think it is ok to seek for signs. I promise you that God will give you those signs.
And you have no need of me or others like me, so I will go back to the op and not answer you again here...it's a waste of my time anyhow and there are several here who are just at good at discernment as am I. And that is not bragging because I base my discernment on the Bible...Read John chapter one...spend a year on it...you still will not really understand it.
Absolutely....
Revelatory does not mean prophecy in the sense some are using the title in this forum or this thread. People generally reveal who they are after time...but some come in tooting the biggest shofar they can carry.
I just block my ears because I know better.
This thread, by it's very natue, exposes what is false THROUGH scripture and I do realize that poses a threat to those who do not follow scripture but instead have evolved into a semi Christian new age convolution of everyone having words for everyone else to the point where one person thinks they know what another should say
That, is not at all biblical...so I get what you are doing here...you are defending what you already do, rather than checking out what you do against scripture.
So, I will go ahead and respond to what you wrote back to me, but then I am not going to bother because this is nothing more than a grudge match with you trying to cancel the purpose of this thread
You are, of course, free to start your own thread wherein you may expound on your practices, much to the joy, no doubt, of your compatriots here who also do not follow scripture and would like to control what is said here rather than allow the Bible to teach them. You may quote me on all of the above.
What you describe is not the correct use of the gift of a word of knowledge...again, I maintain my position that the practice of everyone having words or one person having words for everyone and basically speaking to one another while maintaining that it is God that has given you the knowledge, is nothing short of abuse. I don't care if everyone is spot on...if it was all lies would you still be doing it? Well no of course not! There is no biblical model for what you are doing....and I have seen this, been involved in it and want nothing to do with it because of the bad fruit that eventually falls off the crooked tree.
well there is a restriction concerning false teachers who go house to house luring people off into the bushes ...something to do with silly women (and men who fit the profile)...prophecy is not about individuals...Paul was a major Apostle...YOU are not...you don't take an exception and turn it into a doctrine
no no no...you have it all wrong...the Holy Spirit actually tells me...I don't tell Him. Some people flow in what comes out of the nether regions of bulls...and thousands do not seem able to tell the difference! I will proclaim to whoever will listen that lining up for personal prophecy is ABUSE and the Spirit of God is not in it! God knows the hearts of the people in that lineup and the one who will answer for what they are doing are the abusers of the gifts of God.
The Bible does not have to say don't do that...those who are atune to what God is saying and basically has already said KNOW you don't do that. The gifts are for the building up of the body of Christ...they are not parlor games to entertain and flatter the participant with things like:
God has His hand on your life! Oh I see you leading meetings! Oh I see that you love God and He is really going to use you!
Oh I have seen IT done too...which is why I violently and vehemently object to it!!! I have had it done over me and then spent much time in getting rid of IT! let me speak plainly here ... You do not give control over your life to another!!!! You only give your life to God and by His Spirit, He will lead and guide and conformation by other believers is one thing....but not that evil that passes for the Holy Spirit that gives people goosebumps and feelings of joy in their stomach...we should have the joy of the Lord in our spirits...JOY is not a physical sensation...what you experience is basically the same type of thing a practionner of true yoga practices....kundalini yoga...run my Christian friends...you do not want anything to do with this!
I really dislike what you have done here in trying to twist a legtimate example from scripture to suit yourself. Enquiring of God is what YOU ALL should be doing...so thanks for the examples....but you are describing enquiring from other human beings..thanks for making my point
What you covet IS NOT THE BIBLICAL GIFT OF PROPHECY. What the Holy Spirit revealed to Peter concerning Ananias and his wife was of God...yet, NOT PROPHECY! I have and sometimes do operate in the gift of knowledge and discerning of spirits...for example, a woman was all broken up and torn over her first husband who had died and she was remarried and not happy in the marriage. As we prayed together in a home meeting, it became clear to me that she was still carrying around the pictures of her husband...taking them out and mooning over them.
I didn't know that and didn't know the woman very well. So I spoke up and asked her "Why are you still carrying photos of your first husband around with you? You are married to a different man now and you have not committed to him in your heart." Well that was it for her...she sobbed and sobbed and admitted it was so...I did not tell her what to do...that was up to her...but I did see the problem. That's a word of knowledge and not direction and I did not ask for this gift nor have I EVER used it...there are times I know what I know but I just shut my whazoo and pray...I can see clearly what is coming down the tubes but people generally do not listen anyway...those who ask, I share...but again, a gift such as that is easy to misuse and I would sooner not have it...
My actual thoughts on any of it, is that God will choose to speak through anyone He chooses but He is choosey about whom He chooses...this is the first time I have given any example of something the Holy Spirit uses me for....I would never take that gift even though people have actually asked since I seem to get such clear answers...I would never take that gift and use it...I actually never wanted it, but God is good...and that will be the last time I give an example because I don't like flinging pearls and I do not name myself...let God name me or anyone else He chooses
That, is a far cry from lineups or pointing out someone and telling them what God's will is for their life. I realize that what I wrote may very well be used against me, but God knows and quite seriously, I would not do that if I were you. I'm nothing and prefer it to be so. I do have another very public gift...I sing prophetically...that is, scripture...and the Word of God ...I do not foretell...I forthtell...but I am not a prophet...merely one who shares what God has generously given...I've been asked many times to use this gift as a lead singer or worship leader, been asked to go on TV...oh lots of stuff...but God tells me no don't do that...and even though at the time I would have liked to do those things, years later I understand why I should not.
And I have never excepted money...been offered it for sure...but that is not what you do with a gift from God.
I also write regular songs...some of which others have sung...I don't care...it's not about me and since no one here knows me, I guess I cannot be accused of bragging.
So, you know, I'm just tired of all the rhetoric about what you all can do. It's lame. And I'm done.
The gifts are not for unbelievers. I am not surprised you think it is ok to seek for signs. I promise you that God will give you those signs.
And you have no need of me or others like me, so I will go back to the op and not answer you again here...it's a waste of my time anyhow and there are several here who are just at good at discernment as am I. And that is not bragging because I base my discernment on the Bible...Read John chapter one...spend a year on it...you still will not really understand it.
Absolutely....
Revelatory does not mean prophecy in the sense some are using the title in this forum or this thread. People generally reveal who they are after time...but some come in tooting the biggest shofar they can carry.
I just block my ears because I know better.
E
Matt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Admonishing and speaking forth the warnings about false prophets that are ALREADY IN THE BIBLE MA'AM, is NOT quenching the Holy Spirit. The only spirit that would like us all to ignore the MANY warnings in scripture, are the false spirits.
Only take offense if it fits, K?
well now, a person first has to get to know what the Bible actually says about false prophets in order to know them?
yes?
that's ok...that's actually a rhetorical question
Lift you skirts...the streets are getting muddy
Admonishing and speaking forth the warnings about false prophets that are ALREADY IN THE BIBLE MA'AM, is NOT quenching the Holy Spirit. The only spirit that would like us all to ignore the MANY warnings in scripture, are the false spirits.
Only take offense if it fits, K?
well now, a person first has to get to know what the Bible actually says about false prophets in order to know them?
yes?
that's ok...that's actually a rhetorical question
Lift you skirts...the streets are getting muddy
there is no strength but in the Lord, no comfort that lasts without Him, and no encouragement that isn't deceptive apart from Him.
but with Him is all power! and all comfort!
if an unbeliever comes in and sees us all puffed up, jutting out our chins, refusing each others counsel and 'devouring one another' - will he say "God is really among you" ?
but He said, all men will know we are His disciples because of the love we have for each other
maybe the prophesy spoken here in the BDF more than any other is that we need to un-puff ourselves, and keep our focus on Christ instead of our own vanity. that our fight is with lies and false spirits, not each other.
but with Him is all power! and all comfort!
One thing God has spoken,
two things I have heard:
two things I have heard:
“Power belongs to you, God,
and with you, Lord, is unfailing love”;
and, “You reward everyone according to what they have done.”
(Psalm 62:11-12)
But if all are prophesying and some unbeliever or uninformed person comes in, he is convicted by all and is judged by all. The secrets of his heart will be revealed, and as a result he will fall facedown and worship God, proclaiming, “God is really among you.”
(1 Corinthians 14:24-25)
the salvation of God isn't a terror, but a comfort - because He does reward everyone according to what they do, and if we acknowledge the Son & look to Him for mercy, He rewards us by setting aside all our unrighteousness! and if we forgive others, He is faithful to forgive us, but if we will not, will He? and with you, Lord, is unfailing love”;
and, “You reward everyone according to what they have done.”
(Psalm 62:11-12)
But if all are prophesying and some unbeliever or uninformed person comes in, he is convicted by all and is judged by all. The secrets of his heart will be revealed, and as a result he will fall facedown and worship God, proclaiming, “God is really among you.”
(1 Corinthians 14:24-25)
if an unbeliever comes in and sees us all puffed up, jutting out our chins, refusing each others counsel and 'devouring one another' - will he say "God is really among you" ?
but He said, all men will know we are His disciples because of the love we have for each other
maybe the prophesy spoken here in the BDF more than any other is that we need to un-puff ourselves, and keep our focus on Christ instead of our own vanity. that our fight is with lies and false spirits, not each other.