My b/f said that every man would fall...Is this the truth?

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Lily777

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Please help, anyone.

My b/f and I were discussing sexual sin.

He told me that EVERY single man who would be seduced by a woman would fall if he did not "turn away".
Or in other words, that EVERY single man, if a woman seduced or came unto him (lf like if she was undressing in front of him and coming onto him), would not be able to turn away from her, "if he did not "go away" from her.

He even told me to call Dr. Charles Stanley and he would admit the same. (I doubt I would get through to Stanley, so I can't really ask him)


Is this true?

Please anyone.
 
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blue_ladybug

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Please help, anyone.

My b/f and I were discussing sexual sin.

He told me that EVERY single man who was seduced by a woman would fall if he did not "turn away".
Or in other words, that EVERY single man, if a woman seduced or came unto him, would not be able to turn away from her, "if he did not "go away" from her.

He even told me to call Dr. Charles Stanley and he would admit the same.


Is this true?

Sadly, for many men, yes it is true. It all depends on how strong their faith and willpower are, and how willing to resist temptation they are.. It is very difficult to resist temptation, be it sex, drugs, porn, food, etc..But with God's help, people CAN and will resist.
 
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kaylagrl

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Please help, anyone.

My b/f and I were discussing sexual sin.

He told me that EVERY single man who would be seduced by a woman would fall if he did not "turn away".
Or in other words, that EVERY single man, if a woman seduced or came unto him (lf like if she was undressing in front of him and coming onto him), would not be able to turn away from her, "if he did not "go away" from her.

He even told me to call Dr. Charles Stanley and he would admit the same. (I doubt I would get through to Stanley, so I can't really ask him)


Is this true?

Please anyone.



Your bf is full of ....well I wont say it.That is nonsense! A men or woman is not an animal. If he cant control his urges then he needs to deal with it not make absurd excuses for it.That is 100% disrespectful to you. Im a married woman and I know without a doubt in my mind how my husband would react in that situation. I dont agree with all Dr. Stanley preaches but it sure doesn't sound like something he would teach. Your bf needs to either speak to his pastor or go to some mens meetings at church and learn what self control is. Dont accept that nonsense,its an excuse.I just hope he is being faithful to you and not acting on that impulse.
 
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Lily777

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Thank you both so much.

will be praying and still asking...

Any men have anything to add? Would ALL or EVERY man fall.

Just wanted to clarify that b/f said "IF" I called Charles Staney, he would say ssame thing.

Thank youuuuuuuu .. Coming back later to thread.
 

BruceWayne

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I would have to disagree with that. That can't even be proven. There are plenty of men who are capable of doing the right thing in that situation and one that is truly following God can most definitely resist something like that.

We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us and he will not let us be tempted beyond what we can bear. :)
 
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Please help, anyone.

My b/f and I were discussing sexual sin.

He told me that EVERY single man who would be seduced by a woman would fall if he did not "turn away".
Or in other words, that EVERY single man, if a woman seduced or came unto him (lf like if she was undressing in front of him and coming onto him), would not be able to turn away from her, "if he did not "go away" from her.

He even told me to call Dr. Charles Stanley and he would admit the same. (I doubt I would get through to Stanley, so I can't really ask him)


Is this true?

Please anyone.
Lilly, I'm afraid you may have a very weak-minded b/f.
 
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kaylagrl

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Thank you both so much.

will be praying and still asking...

Any men have anything to add? Would ALL or EVERY man fall.

Just wanted to clarify that b/f said "IF" I called Charles Staney, he would say ssame thing.

Thank youuuuuuuu .. Coming back later to thread.

Just one more thing... As I said I dont agree with everything Stanley says but if you follow this link

InTouch Ministries > Read - Desire and Temptation

he sure doesnt seem to be saying what your boyfriend is saying.
 

RickyZ

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It sounds like the bf is trying to cover his arse...
 
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Actually, the b/f's words are what little boys say before they learn what being a man is all about.
 
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Melanie37

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Sounds like he is trying to justify cheating. We all have the power to say yes and no. We know the difference between right and wrong. And we can control the way we behave.
 

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Please help, anyone.

My b/f and I were discussing sexual sin.

He told me that EVERY single man who would be seduced by a woman would fall if he did not "turn away".
Or in other words, that EVERY single man, if a woman seduced or came unto him (lf like if she was undressing in front of him and coming onto him), would not be able to turn away from her, "if he did not "go away" from her.

He even told me to call Dr. Charles Stanley and he would admit the same. (I doubt I would get through to Stanley, so I can't really ask him)


Is this true?

Please anyone.
I think that it's bogus. Sounds like your b/f is setting you up for something.
 

notuptome

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The prudent man would not allow himself to be in that situation. If he gets there it's because he is open to the idea. James says that we place ourselves in the spot before we are tempted.

James 1:13 ¶ Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Bate

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Well, I can say that through Christ who strengthens us, we can overcome.
When I first read what your boyfriend said, I smelt an excuse for something! So, I disagree; not every man.
If every man would fall..., then in that context I'm not qualifying to be one!

Clarification needed!

Stay blessed and pray for him as well.
 
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Lily777

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Well, I can say that through Christ who strengthens us, we can overcome.
When I first read what your boyfriend said, I smelt an excuse for something! So, I disagree; not every man.
If every man would fall..., then in that context I'm not qualifying to be one!

Clarification needed!

Stay blessed and pray for him as well.


Yes thank you, I'm definitely praying also . I'm contemplating showing him this thread also, as when I try to talk to him, it does not seem to work. I have another thread on here also that I never showed him, but I just "yielded" to him in regard to that topic as I couldn't seem to get through.

Though I want to be "on topic" only and not "personal" attacks or anything. Just the truth as the church body. I don't know anyone here personally (that I know of) LOL and I don't think he does either. Sometimes that is nice. We'll see how the Lord leads.

I'm deeply moved and thankful for everyone's input here. I thank the Lord for each and every response here. I pray the Lord blesses you all so very much. GOD IS SO GOOD!! :) Praise the Name of the LORD! Jesus Christ Is Lord Forever!! Haha Just think, in heaven we won't have to concern ourselves with this stuff anymore..LOL :D

I know we are all learning, we all need prayer. And if I need correction, that be great.

Thank you.
 

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Joseph was able to resist Potiphar's wife and get away. Sure, it cost him a false accusation of rape and prison time, but he did not sin by giving in to her.
 
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Lily777

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Thank you again, everyone. I couldn't add to everyone's rep to thank them,,, so I "liked" the replies. I really do appreciate this.


Also, my b/f emailed me in further discussion of the topic. Here is more of what he said: (Keeping it unpersonal, taking some personal things out - but "on topic"


I think he is saying he is surprised I didn't know that ALL and EVERY man have this problem. That is not the case, I've guessed that every PERSON has struggles in different areas. I know there are temptations for men, but in this case scenario, he is saying "they WILL give in" if they don't flee. I guess I really don't agree like most of you here. I just want to make the point so he'll see. It's not "just me" thinking that.


He said...

"....guys that "have to work with women alone" or professions like counselor and doctors or whatever and run into a "woman whom is a beautiful seducer" and he is attracted to her, he better ask her to leave "asap" or leave himself "asap" if he doesn't he will eventually lose control....this is probably the greatest weakness as I said "of all men".... the reason why I said that I was taken back by you not being aware of this, is because you "dated men" and saw their behavior I mean.



And also... (It was a very long email so I wont post all..but here is some...)


" ......I was "taken back" by the fact that you did not know that about "all men" my mother knows this fact, it's actually all in the bible. When Samson "Whom Loved" Delilah "even worst"... do you think Samson was "only man inclined that way" meaning well he was "just weak", no that story speaks of "All Men In General" it's "bad enough facing a Temptress, but even worst if you Love Her"...


Women "in fact" have more power over men for this very reason all throughout the bible you find this "Common Theme" David himself was a very righteous man he had "many wives" yet still his Greatest Weakness "He in his case you could actually say he had a weakness towards woman" because he saw Bathsheba "Nude" does that mean that if every guy sees a "Nude Woman" from afar he will fall? No, if she is "Very Beautiful" "in this case more will fall; however if he has a Wife that he Truly Does Love" at this point he "for that reason he still would not fall" so in David's case he was "weaker in this area than the one's that are stronger"; however if she is "Beautiful" is "Alone with the man" there is actual proof of this fact..


I saw a program once and "other programs like this" even in the Secular World... where "as a joke they have a beautiful woman come on to a man sitting at a distance in the room" being seductive and dressed seductively "over 99% of all of those guys which had girl friends and wives or single didn't matter all "Failed" but "One Man" Whom Did Not Fail, "But that is Only Step 1)



Step One "Dressed Seductive" "Making Sexual Suggestions" 'All Men Failed This Simple Step, But One Guy' it did not matter that these guys was "both young and old" even the "old men" had fallen, this one "younger guy" he made it "thru step one which is not easy for any man to do that" even I at that point can make it thru that part "When Married and In Love"...


(There was more in between but it was very detailed ...too much too put on here I think) but here is more of what he is trying to say to me

......"Most Pastors that "fallen" "it's a Woman that has done it" or that "Satan has sent this way" "the best weapon was "never the fruit for men, but the his desires and love for woman "Eve"... that is "Why I Pray And Have Prayed For All Men" Especially Look At Our World Now "bringing down men this way even the "World Knows This" How Many Movies Of Stories Have "you watched whereby the one thing that brought the guy down was a beautiful woman???"



Well My Mother "As A Woman" She Told Me Once; The Devil Specifically Comes After Pastors This Way "Meaning Mom Knows This Is The Greatest Weakness In "Any Man's Life"... I actually did not realize that you had not "come to this same conclusion about men in general" but if you did not know that you are "told the Truth Now" on it, and if you "think I am simply weak or David Is or Samson Is, then Why Did Adam take the fruit {Specifically from Eve??? Knowing Fully Well It Was Wrong} Adam Was Faithful Man To Eve.... But Whom Did He Break Faithfulness Too???? "GOD" RIGHT??

SO there you GO!!!!!!!!!! "
So..... in reading that also... again I'm open to any correction needed on my behalf or thinking in this area.

And thank you again :)
 
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Mitspa

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Please help, anyone.

My b/f and I were discussing sexual sin.

He told me that EVERY single man who would be seduced by a woman would fall if he did not "turn away".
Or in other words, that EVERY single man, if a woman seduced or came unto him (lf like if she was undressing in front of him and coming onto him), would not be able to turn away from her, "if he did not "go away" from her.

He even told me to call Dr. Charles Stanley and he would admit the same. (I doubt I would get through to Stanley, so I can't really ask him)


Is this true?

Please anyone.
No not all women are that attractive ... but generally its could be true
 
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Lily777

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No not all women are that attractive ... but generally its could be true
Thank you for your reply also. You then seem to agree with him also.