You don't have a argument from me here. I support that view, but my only word of advice is that you should still be cautious. I could go around calling myself a Nazi, and then use the same line you used, but people's view of me would not be different. They would still think of me as some evil holocaust supporter.
I could care less what people think of me for calling myself something. That's on them and not me. Also, if I call myself a Christian to a lot of people they would think worse of me. Should I stop calling myself that?
You're right and women of that time had every right to defend themselves. That is
not this time. This time, its men who are trying to defend themselves from the oppression's of our current day Matriarchy. It reminds me of black people who cry about the oppression from 200 years ago as if it was happening today. Even though today they aren't picking cotton, being called Tobi, or getting slashes on their backs, they still have a mindset that is in the past. Today we have a black president, which would of been unthinkable 200 years ago.
I would be careful with that type of thinking. You realize that as a white male you really can't understand where either group is coming from? I realize you will chock this up to liberal thinking but I can tell you I am far from a liberal. It's easy to say things are over when it's not a festering wound on your culture. Also, the aftermath of such hate does not go away easily, it is kind of ignorant to say so. Racism and sexism is very ingrained in the US mindset and although it isn't as apparent as outright slavery it is apparent in people's attitudes toward minorities and women. For example, studies have been done that show women are less likely to get hired for demanding jobs (I realize motherhood is an issue, but only because even when a mother works she still does more chores than her husband) and a study has shown that a large percentage of white people think black people are lazier than them, as a race. So I refuse to put on rose-colored glasses and think people can't improve their attitudes toward one another. Isn't that what being a Christian is all about? Working to better oneself and through doing so being a light unto the world?
But feminism has already achieved its goals. Women can vote, women can own property, women can be the president of the United States. The new feminism is just now a morphed version of a new Nazi Regime that supports the oppression and hatred of men. The past is over and already dealt with, but what is not over is the time of our day, in which women have more rights than men, not less. Women have 100% of all reproduction rights, and men in college don't even have due process for false rape allegations. Men are pretty much being mocked, ridiculed and snuffed out under this new "women's equality" movement that excludes men completely. I'm not pulling you in and claiming your one of these feminists, but this is the general movement as a whole, that women support. It has ended in the death of over 50 million unborn children (more deaths than WW2), it has helped produce more single women and fatherlerss homes than any Dictator could ever hope for. It also, claims men are responsible for all the ills of the world.
Has feminism achieved its goals? Can women walk around at night without fear of being attacked? Do women earn the same amount of money for the same amount of work as men? Are women's beauty standards way more restrictive and rigorous, do little girls on average have much lower self-esteem than boys? Do women get harassed when they enter the military or male-dominated professions? Are people in this country much more likely to base a woman's merits on her looks and not her skills, achievements, personality (politics being a huge example of this)? Do feminine roles still get belittled and considered to be inferior to masculines roles (I.E. a mother stays at home, well she doesn't really do anything...she doesn't work)? Do women still get way worse threats on the internet when they are involved in gaming or commentary of any kind? Do women get called mean-spirited names when they are opinionated as opposed to men, who are expected to be authoritative? Do we still parade women around like pieces of meat and then deride those women for choosing to work in the professions they do (btw, NFL cheerleaders don't even make minimum wage and I highly doubt that the focus of any beauty pageant is scholarly based). Do adult women, such as myself, struggle with pride in their gender because there are few examples of women in history that did much of note?
The only men I have heard of getting mocked are those who behave like children, those who have all ready done something stupid (the anonymous internet haters being like a plague unto our houses...the male groups that openly bash women online and there are thousands of them...)
You don't have to believe a word i'm saying, and you can just chalk it all up to me being bitter, but I am telling you, a backlash against feminism from men has already been building. You can choose to ignore it, but I would say in the next 10-20 years, a woman who calls herself a feminist is going to be guaranteeing herself not to ever have a future husband. Men are going to be avoiding them like the plague. Infact, a lot of men already are.
Again, I will state this...not every woman's goal in life is to have a man. You may take this as feminist nonsense, but why accept singleness in men if you can't in women? Many great historical thinkers never married and they got a lot of work done if you ask me. Doesn't Paul also state in 1 Corinthians that marriage is not necessary, that we should avoid it if we can?
I am talking about women, but i'm not blaming women 100% for anything. I know men have their own part to play in the misery in this world, but I also know women love to play victims and escape being responsible for their choices. You can take a regular mother who kills her children and watch the media and women in the comment section chalk up the deaths of those children to the mothers mental state, not the actual mother herself. The mother is a victim of her state. Let a man kill his kids and chalk it up him being a victim for his mental state, and you already know what type of responses he would get. He's a monster, he is this, that, hang him from a tree. When a woman does it, everyone looks for some external source for a reason why she cannot truly be a killer, because I guess that would go against the whole mothers can't be murderers and every girls deserves X, Y, Z non-sense.
Women don't love playing victims as you like to think. Being a victim is hard to take, it means admitting that you were dominated by another group for centuries, that the reason there are few historical women to look up to is because we weren't allowed the same opportunities as men. That if a woman did anything of note, she was overshadowed by her male counterpart or brushed aside (check out Judith Leyster's paintings...many scholars insisted they were done by Hans Holbein).
It sucks being a woman sometimes. I grew up as a young girl hating my gender. I was sad that whenever I took history in school all I learned about were men's accomplishments and I had heard comments made that men are superior because of this very reason. That bred a deep self-hatred in me. Being a woman is not easy, it never has been. "Playing the victim" is really just acknowledgement of things that happened and not a love of being vulnerable. Please...
Feminists love men? Since when? Men certainly don't feel the love from feminists. I hate to say this but I have to.. another typical response of men just hating women. Do you really think when a boy grows up, he just goes "wow, I can't WAIT to hate women!". That's why men get married and play the provider. You just gotta give women you hate money you know, and make sure their well fed, because heck, if they starve to death, how can you keep on hating them? Do you get my point? Men don't hate women, they love them. Yes, you get your typical criminals, and we got a special place called prison reserved for them, but the majority of men do not hate women. How many christian men on this forum do you see blasting and bombarding women about how much they hate them and can't stand them? I do not see this woman-bashing but I also think girls are pretty sensitive to anything critical of them, so they take it that way.
If a man is in a relationship and starts to think of money as "his money" that he selflessly doles out to his helpless wife, what a dysfunctional relationship it is. God tells us not to think of any money as belonging to us, as if we did anything without his grace. So why act like men bestow the gift of money on women like some sort of slot-machine deity? Also many women work nowadays, there are very few one-income households anymore. Personally, I've gotten blasted by Christian men before who hated me as soon as I called myself a feminist...apparently people do judge me just like you said. Misogyny is just as rampant as you think misandry is, except on the misogyny side...women also hate other women a lot more than the reverse. Women are taught to compete with each other and therefore think they are more appealing if they "don't like women". I've actually had other women tell me this, like I'm not supposed to be offended. So, as a woman I can tell you that...I am aware of how much it sucks to be female and I won't be sympathizing a whole lot with your viewpoint anytime soon, though I do believe that there are double-standards aimed at males.
I would write more but I have to go now to a meeting with my start-up company. I'll come back and respond to whatever you have written later.