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Ummm pretty much what you said in a nutshell. Just remember America hasn't done everything right either and we still support her. 
God will bring Israel to repentance His way.But basically I agree with you.
God will bring Israel to repentance His way.But basically I agree with you.
Well that's pretty much what I meant.
Why would we want to persecute an un-saved people? We wouldn't. We would want them to share in the same joy that we experience.
I am personally appreciative of the ancient Israelites. I am glad they wrote down and recorded the scriptures.
So many things in the NT wouldn't make much sense without them. Like what was the significance of being called the Lamb of God? Why did the Lord need to be sacrificed? Things like that...
As far as present day Judaism goes I think they purposefully reject Christ. Obviously I don't think that is a good thing, nor do I think they are blessed for doing so. Or saved.
Why would we want to persecute an un-saved people? We wouldn't. We would want them to share in the same joy that we experience.
I am personally appreciative of the ancient Israelites. I am glad they wrote down and recorded the scriptures.
So many things in the NT wouldn't make much sense without them. Like what was the significance of being called the Lamb of God? Why did the Lord need to be sacrificed? Things like that...
As far as present day Judaism goes I think they purposefully reject Christ. Obviously I don't think that is a good thing, nor do I think they are blessed for doing so. Or saved.
You are, IMO, completely missing the point of Nu 14:11-12.
Num 14:10-11
10 But all the congregation bade stone them with stones. And the glory of the Lord appeared in the tabernacle of the congregation before all the children of Israel.
11 And the Lord said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have shewed among them? KJV
God NEVER had any intention of dishonoring his promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob! This was an opportunity for Moses to affirm his love for God's people and plead on their behalf. God was testing Moses; and Moses responded correctly.
Num 14:10-11
10 But all the congregation bade stone them with stones. And the glory of the Lord appeared in the tabernacle of the congregation before all the children of Israel.
11 And the Lord said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have shewed among them? KJV
God NEVER had any intention of dishonoring his promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob! This was an opportunity for Moses to affirm his love for God's people and plead on their behalf. God was testing Moses; and Moses responded correctly.
This could not be further from the truth. I believe that God never changed. What did change is that I don't have to bring the sin sacrifice because my Saviour did that for me and showed us the perfect grace. This is not difficult to understand but people want to see Israel the nation and a piece of land but they can't see the spiritual Israel.
I can read both OT & NT because they are both relevant to me as a Bible believing child of God. People struggle with the OT because they believe it was written for the Jews and we have no part in it, but we know that God will always be the same and therefor we can read the whole Bible.
Like I said before there were never ever ever salvation in keeping the law. The law was to show us the characteristics of God and if He never changed I doubt it that His characteristics changed
I can read both OT & NT because they are both relevant to me as a Bible believing child of God. People struggle with the OT because they believe it was written for the Jews and we have no part in it, but we know that God will always be the same and therefor we can read the whole Bible.
Like I said before there were never ever ever salvation in keeping the law. The law was to show us the characteristics of God and if He never changed I doubt it that His characteristics changed
Were the re-gathering promises in the OT an everlasting covenant? Or were they a one time, come back from Babylon promise?
What about all the generations of people practicing Judaism from 70ad til now? Are they protected from rejecting Christ by re-gathering promises? It would seem not if these promises are physical.
What about all the generations of people practicing Judaism from 70ad til now? Are they protected from rejecting Christ by re-gathering promises? It would seem not if these promises are physical.
Why are both the Twelve Tribes of ISRAEL and the 12 Apostles names there, one on the doors, the other on the foundations; one pointing to Israel and the other the Church when according to replacement theologians Israel and the Church are the same?
Only the blind would refuse to see it...
Revelation 21:10-14 (KJV)
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Only the blind would refuse to see it...
Revelation 21:10-14 (KJV)
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
I would not word it exactly as EG did; but I understand and agree with his point.
Ireland, Holland, and Scandanavia have consistently treated the Jewish people quite decently. Britain & commonwealth, and the USA somewhat less so. Everyone else, (as a natiom----there are certainly individual exceptions) has treated the Jewish people badly or worse.
Ireland, Holland, and Scandanavia have consistently treated the Jewish people quite decently. Britain & commonwealth, and the USA somewhat less so. Everyone else, (as a natiom----there are certainly individual exceptions) has treated the Jewish people badly or worse.