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K
Well this is why other versions need to be used because the NIV does have errors in it that makes changes in the context of scripture. Paul is speaking on his zeal for the righteousness that he is blameless, not that he kept it.
If he kept it then he would contradict exactly what was said in Acts 15 that he was part of the agreement on that nobody could keep it.
Take a look also what was said closer in 2 Corinthians 3:7, " ministration of death was written on tablets of stone."
Written (a.k.a. written form) and this is because to break any of the 10 Commandments in the OT carried the punishment of being put to death !!!
We are redeemed from that curse under the new covenant, however if a person still continues to live in willful deliberate sinful lifestyles there is still waiting for those judgment and the lake of fire (Hebrews 10)
If he kept it then he would contradict exactly what was said in Acts 15 that he was part of the agreement on that nobody could keep it.
Take a look also what was said closer in 2 Corinthians 3:7, " ministration of death was written on tablets of stone."
Written (a.k.a. written form) and this is because to break any of the 10 Commandments in the OT carried the punishment of being put to death !!!
We are redeemed from that curse under the new covenant, however if a person still continues to live in willful deliberate sinful lifestyles there is still waiting for those judgment and the lake of fire (Hebrews 10)
It was the moral law Paul couldn't keep(on the inside) the sane is true of the Pharisees in the gospels. It is not so hard to go through rite, ritual and ceremony(though tiresome at times) it is the moral law wr all find hardest to keep, Paul was no exception. Think of what thou shalt not covet entails
IMO, If this were coming from someone other than John MacArthur it might indeed be a grace/works issue.
John MacArthur's track record in consistently preaching that Salvation is by grace alone behooves us to understand this in the sense of: 1. Repentance is emphasized, which is a change of direction, including walking up the narrow way, towards Jesus. I have heard too many evangelical messages that miss this important part of the gospel. And known of too many people who prayed a "sinner's" prayer and never walked with Jesus the rest of their lives. So from this perspective, this might be an antidote to easy believism, as the article says.
I'm sure that if John MacArthur were to preach it, his centeral text would be : James 2:14-18
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
KJV
K
I think some of you need to go back and read what happens to the disobedient servants in Matthew 25 and Luke 12, as in neither case does it say they still receive eternal life. It says just the opposite that they will be cast into outer darkness and appointed with the unbelievers.
Hebrews 3,4, and 10 shows the same thing about disobedience when it states they will not enter His rest and will stand before God at judgment and face the fiery indignation of the lake of fire.
Hebrews 3,4, and 10 shows the same thing about disobedience when it states they will not enter His rest and will stand before God at judgment and face the fiery indignation of the lake of fire.
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Hard to believe. Pg 93. Johnny M.
Don’t believe anyone who says it’s easy to become a Christian. Salvation for sinners cost God His own Son; it cost God’s Son His life, and it’ll cost you the same thing. Salvation isn’t gained by reciting mere words. Saving faith transforms the heart, and that in turn transforms behavior. Faith’s fruit is seen in actions, not intentions. There’s no room for passive spectators: words without actions are empty and futile. Remember that what John saw in his vision of judgment was a Book of Life, not a book of Words or Book of Intellectual Musings. The life we live, not the words we speak, reveals whether our faith is authentic.
This is even the updated version.
Don’t believe anyone who says it’s easy to become a Christian. Salvation for sinners cost God His own Son; it cost God’s Son His life, and it’ll cost you the same thing. Salvation isn’t gained by reciting mere words. Saving faith transforms the heart, and that in turn transforms behavior. Faith’s fruit is seen in actions, not intentions. There’s no room for passive spectators: words without actions are empty and futile. Remember that what John saw in his vision of judgment was a Book of Life, not a book of Words or Book of Intellectual Musings. The life we live, not the words we speak, reveals whether our faith is authentic.
This is even the updated version.
Is thou shalt not covet a moral law? Paul gave that particular commandment as the example of why he had to die to a law of righteousness. Which law is Paul speaking of in rom 7:14-25? The law that pertains to the inner nan. The whole chapter concerns the moral law.
Which law being broken made the Pharisees full of wickedness, hypocrisy and everything unclean on the inside? The moral law!
Which law being broken made the Pharisees full of wickedness, hypocrisy and everything unclean on the inside? The moral law!
K
Thou shall not covet is both a moral law of God and a written ordinance of the Mosaic law.
The moral is what we uphold as believers and the Holy Spirit is sent to help us achieve this, which is why Jesus said with God to those who believe all things are possible.
Again please go read Acts 15 as you will see it was the Mosaic law they said they could not keep, and the Romans 7 is not concerning the moral law.
When Paul speaks of the law we are not under and made him carnal sold under sin it is the physical Mosaic law he is speaking on. He can not teach the moral law can't be kept and then teach it is kept, upheld, and established the next as that would be a contradiction.
The moral is what we uphold as believers and the Holy Spirit is sent to help us achieve this, which is why Jesus said with God to those who believe all things are possible.
Again please go read Acts 15 as you will see it was the Mosaic law they said they could not keep, and the Romans 7 is not concerning the moral law.
When Paul speaks of the law we are not under and made him carnal sold under sin it is the physical Mosaic law he is speaking on. He can not teach the moral law can't be kept and then teach it is kept, upheld, and established the next as that would be a contradiction.
K
Yes you are right here that antinomianism is a heresy doctrine, as it states in it that the moral aspect does not apply in the New covenant. Thus making the stance that a person can live however they want and still have eternal life.
The Word of God is clear about the standards a true believer in Christ will uphold and look like in their actions !!!
The Word of God is clear about the standards a true believer in Christ will uphold and look like in their actions !!!
Precisely: and that describes Glide Memorial Church of San Francisco.
This is what gives San Francisco a somewhat undeserved bad name. I say undeserved only because there are at least 25 really sound God honoring churches in San Francisco who do represent Jesus as well as the soundest churches you will find elsewhere.
This is what gives San Francisco a somewhat undeserved bad name. I say undeserved only because there are at least 25 really sound God honoring churches in San Francisco who do represent Jesus as well as the soundest churches you will find elsewhere.
K
I did read it and have read it over and over again, the only law that was considered a burden and put people under bondage was the Mosaic law.
Apostle Paul even clearly refers to the Old covenant that of the bond woman because of the Mosaic law the held people under sin.
The new covenant is called the free woman because Christ taught to focus just on walking in love, and by doing so that light burden of love will uphold and thus fulfill the rest.
We do not have the heavy burden of focusing on written ordinances (laws) to keep and obey, just one of love that will fulfill the rest by just focusing on that one aspect.
Romans 7 could only be pre-conversion moving into born again new believer in the faith to go on to Romans 8 of full maturity in the faith.
Apostle Paul even clearly refers to the Old covenant that of the bond woman because of the Mosaic law the held people under sin.
The new covenant is called the free woman because Christ taught to focus just on walking in love, and by doing so that light burden of love will uphold and thus fulfill the rest.
We do not have the heavy burden of focusing on written ordinances (laws) to keep and obey, just one of love that will fulfill the rest by just focusing on that one aspect.
Romans 7 could only be pre-conversion moving into born again new believer in the faith to go on to Romans 8 of full maturity in the faith.