What Do You Think of Flu Shots?

[seoulsearch]

When I say, "Living in a Bubble," I mean one this size of a small city. I'm not into the "Tiny Bubble" movement (play on "Tiny Houses", which are fascinating, but oh-so-claustrophic to me.)

I need my space, Nuke. Plenty of room for an entire organic garden.

And don't forget the organic cows and chickens.

Drat. I suppose my bubble is going to need a vent... because I don't want to be trapped inside with all that toxic smoke when I fire up the grill.

 

[NukePooch]

When I say, "Living in a Bubble," I mean one this size of a small city. I'm not into the "Tiny Bubble" movement (play on "Tiny Houses", which are fascinating, but oh-so-claustrophic to me.)

I need my space, Nuke. Plenty of room for an entire organic garden.

And don't forget the organic cows and chickens.

Drat. I suppose my bubble is going to need a vent... because I don't want to be trapped inside with all that toxic smoke when I fire up the grill.

The tiny house movement is just getting started. It's one of the results of the UN's Agenda 21, which will have us all live in tiny cells in order to save the environment... of course, when I say all of us will, I mean all of us except for those few who make the rules and have the money/power. They'll still live on their private islands and luxury mansion complexes, because, after all, they work hard for what they've inherited. It's only fair.

 

[mailmandan]

I had a flu shot once, several years ago and it made me sick. Never again!

 

[blue_ladybug]

why on earth would i take a vaccine that CONTAINS the virus it's sposed ta prevent???

 

[NukePooch]

why on earth would i take a vaccine that CONTAINS the virus it's sposed ta prevent???

Or, in the case of the flu shot, it contains the viruses they think might be the hard hitting ones for that season...and when they're inevitably wrong, then you run the risk of getting the flu twice! Who wouldn't want to double their chances?

 

[Hellooo]

I'm getting a flu shot this week for the first time, along with a load of travel vaccines, so I can go abroad next year. I'm ok with the risks, would rather experience any potential side effects at home than fall seriously ill far away from home.

 

[seoulsearch]

I'm getting a flu shot this week for the first time, along with a load of travel vaccines, so I can go abroad next year. I'm ok with the risks, would rather experience any potential side effects at home than fall seriously ill far away from home.

I hope to travel abroad again someday as well... and won't mind getting all the necessary vaccinations then. Keep us posted on how things go!

I understand the reasoning behind vaccines--to make the body a "little bit" sick in order to get it to build an immunity--but I think that unfortunately, it gets out of hand or there are too often factors beyond our control.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

So we are all closet anti vaccers. Im a legitimate conpsiracy theorist. Tinfoil hats for everyone

 

[LanceA]

http://www.local12.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/9-year-old-girl-goes-blind-becomes-paralyzed-after-flu-shot-226745.shtml

 

[kodiak]

1) Have you ever had a flu shot? Did it make you sick, or do you feel it actually protected you from illness?

2) Do you feel that flu shots are worth it? How much have they cost? (I'm curious as to what one costs on average.)

1) Yes, I normally get the shot. It has normally worked for me. I had to get one anyway this year and last year because my immune system is gone. I am not allowed to have live virus vaccines, because even the common cold could kill me because of my low immune system. The flu shot does not contain a live virus. It is dead and used to help your body learn how to fight it. The flu nasal spray is the live virus and I am not allowed to get that.

2) Yes, they are worth it. They don't protect against one form of the flu, but at least 3 or 4. They select the virus(es) that they believe are going to be bad that season based on study from the entire year. It is not a complete guess, but backed by research.
With the flu shot last year, I had to go to the hospital for checkups every few weeks...which puts people like me with low immune systems in a place where a lot of sick people are. I never got sick and a few others I know who had very low immune systems also never got sick. They also had the flu shot. Hand washing is also useful though too....So, I believe the flu shot is good.....

 

[wwjd_kilden]

In risk of being called a anti-vaccine hippie who and listens to pseudoscience:

Since I'm big on statistics and studies, are there any statistics showing the amount of people that don't vaccinate and the amount of people who do? Maybe one of the past and one of the present, alongside the increase or decrease of disease?

And even then, correlation does not always equal causation. Has there been an actual study, a doctor, or anything that has actually tried to pinpoint the cause of increase in diseases, rather than simply going by propaganda? And I've honestly heard nothing beyond the media and angry blogging parents.

I'm not saying I'm anti-vaccine. I am however, all for people educating themselves and keeping informed and heavily researching what exactly we're directly injecting into our bodies.

I also need to do more research on studies on overall vaccine safety and read the ingredients for the vaccines. (Not about whether the vaccines cause autism thing. There's other ways a person could get harmed by a vaccine beyond the autism claims.)

Propaganda is dangerous yes, because it takes lives when people stop taking vaccines

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/What Would Happen If We Stopped Vaccinations


We know that a disease that is apparently under control can suddenly return, because we have seen it happen, in countries like Japan, Australia, and Sweden. Here is an example from Japan. In 1974, about 80% of Japanese children were getting pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine. That year there were only 393 cases of whooping cough in the entire country, and not a single pertussis-related death. Then immunization rates began to drop, until only about 10% of children were being vaccinated. In 1979, more than 13,000 people got whooping cough and 41 died. When routine vaccination was resumed, the disease numbers dropped again.
The chances of your child getting a case of measles or chickenpox or whooping cough might be quite low today. But vaccinations are not just for protecting ourselves, and are not just for today. They also protect the people around us (some of whom may be unable to get certain vaccines, or might have failed to respond to a vaccine, or might be susceptible for other reasons). And they also protect our children’s children and their children by keeping diseases that we have almost defeated from making a comeback. What would happen if we stopped vaccinations? We could soon find ourselves battling epidemics of diseases we thought we had conquered decades ago.

 

[NukePooch]

Propaganda is dangerous yes, because it takes lives when people stop taking vaccines

My wish is that people would consider that there are risks involved with vaccinations. Most people have no idea, and the docs don't tell them.

Vaccines can help, sometimes, but often they don't work. Often, the vaccine itself kills. I just wish that parents were informed of this so they can make up their own minds.

 

[seoulsearch]

My wish is that people would consider that there are risks involved with vaccinations. Most people have no idea, and the docs don't tell them.

Vaccines can help, sometimes, but often they don't work. Often, the vaccine itself kills. I just wish that parents were informed of this so they can make up their own minds.

The thing I find though, is that I tend to find myself overloaded with information--and a lot of technical jargon I don't even understand--which leaves me more confused than ever, and increasingly anxious about making the right choice. I can't imagine being a parent and having to make these decisions for my kids.

Does anyone else feel this way and how do you know what to do?

 

[Gunner]

Isn't that how the zombie apocalypse starts? Scientist experimenting with chemicals and bacteria's trying to find a cure for diseases such as the common cold or the flu. Some one gets ejected with the "Vaccine" which ends up mutating and takes over the body becoming the host. It all starts with just one shot...

 

[CarolSampaio]

Isn't that how the zombie apocalypse starts? Scientist experimenting with chemicals and bacteria's trying to find a cure for diseases such as the common cold or the flu. Some one gets ejected with the "Vaccine" which ends up mutating and takes over the body becoming the host. It all starts with just one shot...

Whoa... I get the shot every year... maybe I became a zombie and I just didn't realize it...

But if I think of it, I still like hamburguers and the thought of eating brains is not really appealing, so I guess I'm still ok..

 

[seoulsearch]

I have another question for all you frequent hand washers:

How do you keep your hands from cracking open and bleeding?

I can't even tell you how many times I wash my hands in a day--I thought about it the other day and it's probably boils down to at least 1-2 times an hour. I'm not OCD--it's just part of my work and life. And, I even wear gloves when doing household chores. I also try to use lotion as much as I can, but it only has moderate effects.

My hands often crack, especially in the winter, seeing as I'm always working around a lot of box cutters and dry cardboard (meaning lots of nicks in addition.) A few weeks ago the pad of my thumb just cracked right open, and Band-Aids are useless because they slide off in 5 minutes. I usually just bear with it without any form of barrier, which I know is "risky" but there's really no choice.

How do the rest of you who wash your hands several times in an hour keep your skin from paying the price?

 

[seoulsearch]

Whoa... I get the shot every year... maybe I became a zombie and I just didn't realize it...

But if I think of it, I still like hamburguers and the thought of eating brains is not really appealing, so I guess I'm still ok..

LOL!!!

Carol, you crack me up!!!

 

[CarolSampaio]

I have another question for all you frequent hand washers:

How do you keep your hands from cracking open and bleeding?

I can't even tell you how many times I wash my hands in a day--I thought about it the other day and it's probably boils down to at least 1-2 times an hour. I'm not OCD--it's just part of my work and life. And, I even wear gloves when doing household chores. I also try to use lotion as much as I can, but it only has moderate effects.

My hands often crack, especially in the winter, seeing as I'm always working around a lot of box cutters and dry cardboard (meaning lots of nicks in addition.) A few weeks ago the pad of my thumb just cracked right open, and Band-Aids are useless because they slide off in 5 minutes. I usually just bear with it without any form of barrier, which I know is "risky" but there's really no choice.

How do the rest of you who wash your hands several times in an hour keep your skin from paying the price?

My mom has this same problem! She usually has extra care when picking whatever she uses to wash her hands with... usually those soaps with cream and stuff in it..

But at night, she always uses a formula that she spreads on her hands and then she puts on some gloves so the cream will stay on her hands through the night... I do believe that the medicinal formula she uses she got from a dermatologist... it would be a good idea to visit one... so they can see what exactly is the problem and treat it accordingly...

 

[NukePooch]

I have another question for all you frequent hand washers:

How do you keep your hands from cracking open and bleeding?

I can't even tell you how many times I wash my hands in a day--I thought about it the other day and it's probably boils down to at least 1-2 times an hour. I'm not OCD--it's just part of my work and life. And, I even wear gloves when doing household chores. I also try to use lotion as much as I can, but it only has moderate effects.

My hands often crack, especially in the winter, seeing as I'm always working around a lot of box cutters and dry cardboard (meaning lots of nicks in addition.) A few weeks ago the pad of my thumb just cracked right open, and Band-Aids are useless because they slide off in 5 minutes. I usually just bear with it without any form of barrier, which I know is "risky" but there's really no choice.

How do the rest of you who wash your hands several times in an hour keep your skin from paying the price?

I use Gold Bond Ultimate hand lotion, but I've heard great things about Corn Huskers lotion and Bag Balm. Either vinyl electrical tape or duct tape will keep the band-aids in place so you can keep working....and keep the area cleaner. (just don't wrap too tightly...)

Gloves? One of my favorite gloves is G-Tek Maxifoam or G-Tek Maxiflex nitrile foam coated gloves. Thin, so you can pick up paper, cardboard, and small items, but thick enough to protect. You can find them on ebay and amazon, etc...there are cheaper ones, but the G-Tek brand is tops, in my book. The only thing they don't do well in is wet tasks. Other than that, they're amazing. You can throw them in the washer as well (let them air dry, the dryer will crack the coating).

 

[kodiak]

I have another question for all you frequent hand washers:

How do you keep your hands from cracking open and bleeding?

I can't even tell you how many times I wash my hands in a day--I thought about it the other day and it's probably boils down to at least 1-2 times an hour. I'm not OCD--it's just part of my work and life. And, I even wear gloves when doing household chores. I also try to use lotion as much as I can, but it only has moderate effects.

My hands often crack, especially in the winter, seeing as I'm always working around a lot of box cutters and dry cardboard (meaning lots of nicks in addition.) A few weeks ago the pad of my thumb just cracked right open, and Band-Aids are useless because they slide off in 5 minutes. I usually just bear with it without any form of barrier, which I know is "risky" but there's really no choice.

How do the rest of you who wash your hands several times in an hour keep your skin from paying the price?

Mine only seem to crack when I use soap with red dye in it....My mother has this problem though with her hands cracking....the lotion helps some, but not that much. The lotion apparently helps more if you use it before your hands start cracking? The only thing I know of is the red dye in soaps seems to dry my hands out more and cause them to crack...