Can you be a liberal Christian?

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blue_ladybug

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Willie-T said:
A hard thing to do is to ask ourselves that if God gave us the power to make the decision that all unbelievers (our enemies, included) could be totally forgiven on that last day, and get to enjoy Eternity.............. would we want that for them, or would we give it a "thumbs down"?
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I think we should want that for them, because we don't know how many unbelievers will repent on that day. I'm fairly sure quite a few will. Like I said, God's gonna judge our hearts and take that into account when handing out punishments.. jmo
 
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Willie-T said:
OK. Let's bring it home. Do you think any of these people you seem to feel are only angry with "evil", would be willing to see just "evil" punished, but the humans through which that "evil" was perpetuated given a comfortable and pleasurable existence for Eternity?

C'mon, you know the answer. We humans want our vengeance against other humans.... period. We would never consider only "evil" being punished, and not the people like Hitler and Jack the Ripper through whom the "evil" was enacted, getting the full measure of punishment.

Yet this is exactly what the Bible says was done for you and me.
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However, vengeance is not OURS to dole out. Vengeance is God's job.. No matter how we feel about the most evil vile sins..
 
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blue_ladybug said:
I think we should want that for them, because we don't know how many unbelievers will repent on that day. I'm fairly sure quite a few will. Like I said, God's gonna judge our hearts and take that into account when handing out punishments.. jmo
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True. This is EXACTLY the Sheep & Goats deal. Where is our "heart?"
 
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Willie-T said:
OK. Let's bring it home. Do you think any of these people you seem to feel are only angry with "evil", would be willing to see just "evil" punished, but the humans through which that "evil" was perpetuated given a comfortable and pleasurable existence for Eternity?

C'mon, you know the answer. We humans want our vengeance against other humans.... period. We would never consider only "evil" being punished, and not the people like Hitler and Jack the Ripper through whom the "evil" was enacted, getting the full measure of punishment.

Yet this is exactly what the Bible says was done for you and me.
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​ If I hate someone I am guilty of murder. To want vengeance against another human is sin. The Bible teaches about forgiveness and how many times we are to forgive.That is a commandment I have to follow as a Christian. I have never heard Christians were such horrible people until I came to this site.smh If we feel this way we need to hit our knees and repent.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
I think we should want that for them, because we don't know how many unbelievers will repent on that day. I'm fairly sure quite a few will. Like I said, God's gonna judge our hearts and take that into account when handing out punishments.. jmo
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Yes God looks on the heart but He will also judge our works.If we turn away from Him we will receive the punishment of hell. If God is completely just He will have no choice.
 
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kaylagrl said:

Yes God looks on the heart but He will also judge our works.If we turn away from Him we will receive the punishment of hell. If God is completely just He will have no choice.
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How dare you mention "hell" its clear you hate everyone :(
 
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Utah said:
In which case, the answer to the OP's question would be, no, regarding that specific issue.
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Having the wrong opinion on abortion, not even talking about going through with an abortion yourself, doesn't revoke your salvation. It just means you have the wrong idea of when life begins. That can be corrected easily.
 
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Having the wrong position on abortion doesn't revoke your salvation, it just means you have the wrong idea of when life begins.
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No I think its safe to say no baby killer or those that support such things should take any comfort in the idea that they are saved... Let them fear and tremble at the wickedness in their own hearts!
 
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Having the wrong opinion on abortion, not even talking about going through with an abortion yourself, doesn't revoke your salvation. It just means you have the wrong idea of when life begins. That can be corrected easily.
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No its far more serious then that.You are taking innocent life or backing the taking of innocent life. You are harming little ones and the Bible says its better a stone be hung round your neck and cast into the sea.Only God has the right to take life.Its much more serious than a discussion of when life begins. If God called people in the womb and caused them to jump for joy Id say its pretty easy to see how important the unborn are to Him
 
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kaylagrl said:
​ If I hate someone I am guilty of murder. To want vengeance against another human is sin. The Bible teaches about forgiveness and how many times we are to forgive.That is a commandment I have to follow as a Christian. I have never heard Christians were such horrible people until I came to this site.smh If we feel this way we need to hit our knees and repent.
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As I said before, simply read what people say in various posts. It isn't Rocket Science to figure out how certain people feel about all kinds of things. After all, they come right out, and say it.
 
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Hey Im just quotin the Good Book. They need to take it up with HIM. :)
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Uh Uh...you cant do that because someone might get offended and wont join the club... :(
 
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As I said before, simply read what people say in various posts. It isn't Rocket Science to figure out how certain people feel about all kinds of things. After all, they come right out, and say it.
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You cant be judging a persons heart.I dont believe they hate people and they havent said they hate people. But I understand what they say differently than you do obviously.
 
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kaylagrl said:
No its far more serious then that.You are taking innocent life or backing the taking of innocent life. You are harming little ones and the Bible says its better a stone be hung round your neck and cast into the sea.Only God has the right to take life.Its much more serious than a discussion of when life begins. If God called people in the womb and caused them to jump for joy Id say its pretty easy to see how important the unborn are to Him
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But you can still be a Christian if you have been deceived on when life begins.
 
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Willie-T said:
As I said before, simply read what people say in various posts. It isn't Rocket Science to figure out how certain people feel about all kinds of things. After all, they come right out, and say it.
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Its clear from this post that you hate other believers on this forum... admit it!
 
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Mitspa said:
Uh Uh...you cant do that because someone might get offended and wont join the club... :(
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I dont know what some people would do if the sat under the likes of Billy Sunday! They'd implode.
 
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Mitspa said:
No I think its safe to say no baby killer or those that support such things should take any comfort in the idea that they are saved...
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Everyone should tremble because all have fallen short. This is the whole reason Christ came, to save us while we were still enemies. Philosophy can be corrected, even actions can be repented from if you have truly been reborn.
 
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