Can you be a liberal Christian?

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blue_ladybug

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​For the record, I don't hate anyone, so let's get that straight, right off the bat.. :mad:
 
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The thing is, political views do make up a great portion of your principles and identity. I have seen some Christian liberals just as I've seen agnostic/atheist and even gay conservatives, though they're not a majority. Usually many of our viewpoints can either be far left or right, or you're somewhere in between and/or lean more towards one side. It's not a two-sided coin subject at all. Usually when people have a mix of viewpoints and identification for certain stances, they're not completely all at one end of their political spectrum to begin with.

So anyway, if you consider yourself as liberal then only you can determine that. If you agree with one side more so than the other then you'll probably fit under that section or group of people. We can't tell you as to how you think and what you identify as. I don't agree with a lot of liberalism/progressive agendas even though I'm not a religious conservative. I go with libertarian and Constitutional with limited government standpoints, respectively, which can take some form of conservatism or maybe even a hint of classic Liberalism (look that up if you don't know what it means.)
 
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But you can still be a Christian if you have been deceived on when life begins.
Yea a believer in Christ can be deceived that a baby is not really a baby? They don't need the comfort of salvation until they figure that one out.
 
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Mitspa

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​For the record, I don't hate anyone, so let's get that straight, right off the bat.. :mad:
No the new rule on the forum seems to be ..if you call anything or anyone wrong or evil...that means you hate. Its being said again and again in many different ways.
 
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But you can still be a Christian if you have been deceived on when life begins.

Deceived is a different story. Its really not hard to figure it out.When a picture of a baby in the womb can grasp a doctors finger thats life. If a baby flinches away when in pain you can know that is life. Does your bladder have its own brain,heart,lungs? Your kidney? Liver? No. Its clear a baby is alive.To kill it is murder.
 

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Yea a believer in Christ can be deceived that a baby is not really a baby?
You'd be hard pressed to find an average person who knows what this is a picture of without prompting.

 

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Deceived is a different story. Its really not hard to figure it out.When a picture of a baby in the womb can grasp a doctors finger thats life. If a baby flinches away when in pain you can know that is life. Does your bladder have its own brain,heart,lungs? Your kidney? Liver? No. Its clear a baby is alive.To kill it is murder.
Yeah, so we should be trying to convince other Christians that humans are people at conception.
 
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Everyone should tremble because all have fallen short. This is the whole reason Christ came, to save us while we were still enemies. Philosophy can be corrected, even actions can be repented from if you have truly been reborn.
Some of us have and do..thats why we know good from evil and our salvation has been worked out...and God grants us the assurance of our salvation.... God never intended the wicked to rejoice in the assurance of salvation.
 
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You'd be hard pressed to find an average person who knows what this is a picture of without prompting.

Here is how dishonest you are...this is not the issue and you know it... show a baby at 2 weeks old with a beating heart. Any honest person and especially one that claims to know Christ understands that a baby is a baby.
 

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Some of us have and do..thats why we know good from evil and our salvation has been worked out...and God grants us the assurance of our salvation.... God never intended the wicked to rejoice in the assurance of salvation.
Assurance of salvation is different from salvation and forgiveness.
 

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Here is how dishonest you are...this is not the issue and you know it...
Um I thought we were talking about abortion, dude? Is a human not a human at 1 week? The pro-choice crowd is diverse. You find some who think it's only justified until it develops a beating heart, some who think it's fine until the third trimester, and some who want it allowed all the way up until right after birth. If you believe its a human, then when is it a human? I say at conception.

There are even some in the pro-life camp who don't acknowledge that picture as a picture of a human. Why? Because it doesn't "look" like a human.

So let's be consistent and show how easily someone can be deceived about human life.
 
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blue_ladybug

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No the new rule on the forum seems to be ..if you call anything or anyone wrong or evil...that means you hate. Its being said again and again in many different ways.
Then it's a stupid rule and should be abolished..lol
 

blue_ladybug

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Um I thought we were talking about abortion, dude? Is a human not a human at 1 week? The pro-choice crowd is diverse. You find some who think it's only justified until it develops a beating heart, some who think it's fine until the third trimester, and some who want it allowed all the way up until right after birth. If you believe its a human, then when is it a human? I say at conception.

A human is a human at the very second of conception. It's ridiculous that it's not considered an actual person until it's born, though..jmo
 
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Um I thought we were talking about abortion, dude? Is a human not a human at 1 week?
You call it human? and want to play games with words and terms like liberals do to make murder legal ... I say what I say not before man but before God that any honest person and especially a real Christians knows a baby when they see one...and I say as a true Christian that I will never comfort a person who believes its ok to kill babies and approve such things. If some Christian has been deceived ..they need other Christians to reprove them, not excuse their evil ways.
 
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Mitspa

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I would be satisfied with the legal term we use to describe life in our society now....a heart beat and some brain function that suggest evidence that life is likely ...that would save millions of babies
 

blue_ladybug

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You don't? Until how long after conception do you think termination isn't murder?



No games here, man. Is it a human being or not?

If it shows a heartbeat on the ultrasound, it's a human being.. or animal, depending on what species you are..lol
 
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