Monkeys become people?

[Mitspa]

Before making an argument against the theory of evolution, I believe one must educate oneself about the side they are attacking, instead of pulling out a strawman to argue against.

Understanding Evolution Resource Library

So it would make more sense to argue why you disagree with the ToE saying that chimps and humans share a common ancestor and chimps are our "cousins", then arguing against the ridiculous idea that "monkeys becoming people", because even those that accept the ToE disagree with that.

"Cousins"? so is the theory that humans and monkeys got together and made humans ...or that monkeys evolved into humans .... Now you can change the term monkey into "chimp" or pan whatever...But its still a monkey type animal....the same monkey type animals we have today.

As far as educating oneself about a the lie of evolution .... Its like hearing one of these conspiracy theories ...after you figure out how silly it is...why waste anymore time trying to understand the insanity of it?

 

[Mitspa]

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Basically you have to believe evolution and assume the evidence from the stand point that evolution is true, before you can have any evidence for evolution.

 

[Mitspa]

I do believe what the Bible is trying to teach, its just we disagree on certain things we believe the bible teaches.

But this isn't something evolution started. For a while different variants of Christianity have existed, people all saying they believe the bible, but coming up with different and sometimes contradictory views.

A good example is communion. Some say that when Jesus was talking about the bread being his body, and the wine being his blood, he was simply being metaphorical/symbolic. While others read those passages in saying that supernaturally the bread and wine really do become the body and blood of Christ during communion.

In other words there are various views when it comes to communion, even though all are saying they believe in these passages.

And I am using my brain, no need for the insult

One of the first things the bible teaches is that you cant trust man and his logic over the truth of the bible.... so to say you believe the bible and yet reject its truth is just self-deception.

 

[popeye]

"Cousins"? so is the theory that humans and monkeys got together and made humans ...or that monkeys evolved into humans .... Now you can change the term monkey into "chimp" or pan whatever...But its still a monkey type animal....the same monkey type animals we have today.

As far as educating oneself about a the lie of evolution .... Its like hearing one of these conspiracy theories ...after you figure out how silly it is...why waste anymore time trying to understand the insanity of it?

Exactly.

They even leave the obvious on the table,(provided the"obvious" is plausible),and create a new insurmountable exponentially impossible twist to the laughable fairy tale.

No matter how it's sliced,they imagine a monkey -like entity mutating into a monkey.

Such superior minds can not be bothered with the science of plausibility.

 

[popeye]

Basically you have to believe evolution and assume the evidence from the stand point that evolution is true, before you can have any evidence for evolution.

And that is religion.

Taught by faith to little kids in school as fact.

 

[Mitspa]

There are various views on what "God's Image" means. If it was true that "God's Image" meant our physical appearance, then yes the ToE would contradict that. But some people believe being made in God's Image is not referring to our actual bodies. That it has to do with the Soul/Intelligence/relationship with God, etc. The ToE could not go against those versions of the Image of God


It is not exactly an "accident".

Misconceptions about evolution

But you have to remember that the theory of evolution does not deal with questions of theology/religion/God, it is neutral on those matters. For those who accept the ToE and also believe in God, clearly we are no accident. While an atheist who accepts the ToE would disregard their being an Intelligence behind the evolutionary process.

What we know is that evolutionist certainly deal with the bible and all they do is based on their hatred for the God of the bible...that's what evolution is all about...its not about real provable science based on real known laws of physics ...it contradicts all known and real science... It is a religion itself based on the pride of man.

 

[KJV1611]

And that is religion.

Taught by faith to little kids in school as fact.

They have to teach the kids evolution so that they will accept the soon coming human induced evolution.

 

[Mitspa]

Exactly.

They even leave the obvious on the table,(provided the"obvious" is plausible),and create a new insurmountable exponentially impossible twist to the laughable fairy tale.

No matter how it's sliced,they imagine a monkey -like entity mutating into a monkey.

Such superior minds can not be bothered with the science of plausibility.

That's why they have to have the concept of vast periods of time...to take this idea out of reason, logic and real science that can be tested, into the realm of fantasy and imagination. They imagine a truth and like the conspiracy folks search for anything that could in any way agree with that imagined truth.

 

[Sirk]

They have to teach the kids evolution so that they will accept the soon coming human induced evolution.

The powers that be want an underclass that serves them. Population reduction is the end game.

 

[kodiak]

Excluding this forum of course where evolutionary creationism is super small, many Christians in the real world have no problem with reconciling the theory of evolution with their Christian faith. And they don't believe they are being inconsistent with their beliefs.

So I believe it would be correct to say, "Evolution and the Christian Faith do not mix for some Christians"

That would be true if we were discussing subjective truth. Tintin is referring to objective truth. People's opinion does not affect the truth of a statement.
When one goes down the slippery slope of taking Bible passages meant to be taken literal as non literal, they may end up not being able to stop at extremely important parts.

 

[KJV1611]

The powers that be want an underclass that serves them. Population reduction is the end game.

Agreed, but the next step in evolution is changing the dna to create little gods.

 

[Sirk]

Agreed, but the next step in evolution is changing the dna to create little gods.

I just read an article yesterday about how the super rich are attempting to buy eternal life. Can't find it tho.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Now don't be too hard on her guys, her questions and points are pretty common for young Christians in regards to this topic. You older folks have to remember, Darwinism and the Old Earth Mythology has been taught to us from the cradle on up, not just in school, but in television shows, movies, books, etc. Not only is it pounded into our brains over and over, but there is a very active effort to suppress any dissenting opinion or evidence to the contrary. You might be surprised, but a big reason the Old Earth Mythology is so inflated ain't got nothing to with Darwinism/evolution or even biology at all.

 

[Sirk]

Now don't be too hard on her guys, her questions and points are pretty common for young Christians in regards to this topic. You older folks have to remember, Darwinism and the Old Earth Mythology has been taught to us from the cradle on up, not just in school, but in television shows, movies, books, etc. Not only is it pounded into our brains over and over, but there is a very active effort to suppress any dissenting opinion or evidence to the contrary. You might be surprised, but a big reason the Old Earth Mythology is so inflated ain't got nothing to with Darwinism/evolution or even biology at all.

Honest question...what does it have to do with?

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Honest question...what does it have to do with?

When Darwinism came about they just needed a few paltry million years to account for it. Because of the space lies and heresies (ie: heliocentricism, spinning ball earth, big bang, galaxies, etc.) they had to inflate the age into the billions to account for all that.

EDIT: And in fact they will have to keep inflating the age because of this.

 

[Mitspa]

Now don't be too hard on her guys, her questions and points are pretty common for young Christians in regards to this topic. You older folks have to remember, Darwinism and the Old Earth Mythology has been taught to us from the cradle on up, not just in school, but in television shows, movies, books, etc. Not only is it pounded into our brains over and over, but there is a very active effort to suppress any dissenting opinion or evidence to the contrary. You might be surprised, but a big reason the Old Earth Mythology is so inflated ain't got nothing to with Darwinism/evolution or even biology at all.

I agree in general that we must answer the issue in patient logic with some, but also understand that some are coming from a perspective that those who actually believe the bible are in a form of religious ignorance. This lie is told with all the boldness of the spirit of this world, imposing lies on our young people. Its as much a spiritual battle as a battle of logic and reason...more so than many understand. Boldness in the truth has an effect upon the spiritual realm that we don't always see or perceive.... If someone who believes evolution is reproved in way that shakes their own deceptions...they may not at first repent? But it will leave them in a place God can deal more earnestly with their hearts...and hopefully some of them can be saved?

 

[Sirk]

When Darwinism came about they just needed a few paltry million years to account for it. Because of the space lies and heresies (ie: heliocentricism, spinning ball earth, big bang, galaxies, etc.) they had to inflate the age into the billions to account for all that.

EDIT: And in fact they will have to keep inflating the age because of this.

Thanks. I read an article that in light of the discovered "great wall" out in space....if they are honest and use its enormity as a basis for the age of the universe, they will have to increase the age of the universe upwards to at least a 100 billion years...give or take a few billion. Lol

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I agree in general that we must answer the issue in patient logic with some, but also understand that some are coming from a perspective that those who actually believe the bible are in a form of religious ignorance. This lie is told with all the boldness of the spirit of this world, imposing lies on our young people. Its as much a spiritual battle as a battle of logic and reason...more so than many understand. Boldness in the truth has an effect upon the spiritual realm that we don't always see or perceive.... If someone who believes evolution is reproved in way that shakes their own deceptions...they may not at first repent? But it will leave them in a place God can deal more earnestly with their hearts...and hopefully some of them can be saved?

I agree, but lady Christianperson91 did not seem to me to be of the malicious sort. Simply by her very common questions and posits I think she is well meaning. It's not an overnight thing where you just accept that everything society has told you is pretty much bullcrap.

 

[Budman]

Gene duplication creates new genetic material and lengthens a DNA molecule.

3) A lengthened (duplicated) DNA molecule can replicate erroneously, and change its genetic code (mutate).

This would be an increase in genetic information.

No, it does not. That is not a creation of NEW genetic information, it is simply a recombination of EXISTING information - no matter how long it is.

Let's say the combination is AGTC, TCAG, ATCG, and at one point, one letter is switched and it reads; AGTC, TCAG, ATGC. Now, was new information created by the mistake? Absolutely not. Do mistakes in the genetic code create completely new beneficial functions in an organism? Absolutely not. They are either harmful, lethal, or benign.

Evolution would require the creation of new genetic information through mutation on a MASSIVE scale to create the simplest function - let alone the formation of a creature, or the changing of one into a completely different other.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Thanks. I read an article that in light of the discovered "great wall" out in space....if they are honest and use its enormity as a basis for the age of the universe, they will have to increase the age of the universe upwards to at least a 100 billion years...give or take a few billion. Lol

Lol haven't heard anything about that, but frankly, I wouldn't be too surprised. Me and my ex-Darwinist friend actually have a no-money/friendly wager over whether they'll revise the age of earth up to 4.6 billion years (my friend's bet) or just go for a solid 5 billion (my bet).

Interesting little fact though that is somewhat related is that Darwin's son George was an astronomer that was very big into the space heresies. George even created one of his own that is still quite popular today. Basically it is that the Moon was part of the Earth then broke away to become the Moon. It is a good example for this little side topic because by his other space theories, namely on tides, they had to revise the age of the earth upwards by about 56 million years.