Are Sex Offenders a liability to Churches?

[Willie-T]

Most of you have no idea that most ex-offenders WELCOME the opportunity to be monitored. But the State often will not do it.

 

[biblicalsandy]

There are perpetrators that are unregistered, some who has never seen one day in jail. I know, because I have one in my family from my dad's side..never ever got into trouble, or even investigated. What he did was declared to many, but was treated as if a lie. Teachers were told, lawyers, and other adults. Even when the person got older, she was told statue of limitations, there is nothing that can be done..so how do you know is really a sex offender?..I know the one I know still goes to church!

 

[breno785au]

I don't care. I'm talking about the ones who DO re-offend. They are the ones you gotta look out for.

And according to your opinion in post 83 that's all of them. You said they rarely stop reoffending and can't change their behaviors...this is simply not true!

 

[KennethC]

My little brother was accused, and had to register as a sex offender. It really hurt his life! Now knowing that not everybody knows him personally, I could see how this looks like. My brother got convicted of a crime, he did not commit, the so called victim even said he was not involved. It did not matter, as the DA had issues over a past case, the county was not able to investigate well (Try to say he had part in getting rid of the gun, declared innocent) over a murder. My brother spent years, trying to survive this...I remember even over hearing people talk about it, as they did not I was his sister. I'm all white, and he is half mexican. Than telling them, they knew nothing, especially after finding out their source..newspaper, media, gossip!
There should not be a mass hysteria over the word Sex-Offender, especially if we don't know what took place!

Some people speak because they believe what the bias media sources tell them.

People in fear are easier to control, which is why government works through people's fears.

This is why our rights are slowly being taken away, because the government is using that fear against us to make people falsely believe they would be safer to vote for those restrictions.

Instead of actually listening to people who handle these situations, they listen to lying media sources and bigots who are full of hatred like Nancy Grace !!!

 

[Willie-T]

There are perpetrators that are unregistered, some who has never seen one day in jail. I know, because I have one in my family from my dad's side..never ever got into trouble, or even investigated. What he did was declared to many, but was treated as if a lie. Teachers were told, lawyers, and other adults. Even when the person got older, she was told statue of limitations, there is nothing that can be done..so how do you know is really a sex offender?..I know the one I know still goes to church!

You have just spoken a truth that proponents of "The List" ABSOLUTELY do not want the public to hear. Blind fools actually think they are somehow "safe" because they have a list to look up those trying their best to abide by the law and go harass them.... while Grandpa (or a teacher, coach, babysitter, etc.) is back at home "grooming" their child.

 

[blue_ladybug]

And according to your opinion in post 83 that's all of them. You said they rarely stop reoffending and can't change their behaviors...this is simply not true!

Learn to read. I said the ones who DO re-offend. Obviously the ones who DO re-offend cannot stop or change their behaviors. As to the ones who don't re-offend, then good on them for controlling their impulses.

 

[Euphemia]

Couldn't all christians be considered sex offenders according to bible teaching if they have ever had an impure thought?

No, people are held accountable forcevery stray thought they have.

 

[kodiak]

I only have this to say on the issue, sinners should be in church or someplace where they can hear about God. It is a matter of the heart and only God can change one's heart.

 

[breno785au]

Learn to read. I said the ones who DO re-offend. Obviously the ones who DO re-offend cannot stop or change their behaviors. As to the ones who don't re-offend, then good on them for controlling their impulses.

I actually do,know how to read, otherwise I wouldn't be able to function in society..I'll copy and paste what you said, perhaps you didn't accurately type out your thoughts? I know that happens to me more often than not..
Sex offenders ARE a liability, because they rarely stop re-offending. Pedophiles and rapists can't change their behaviors.

 

[Willie-T]

I only have this to say on the issue, sinners should be in church or someplace where they can hear about God. It is a matter of the heart and only God can change one's heart.

You mean Jesus didn't come for "pretty and proper pew sitters?" Do you suppose He actually came to save "sinners?"

Thanks for your post.... good, as always.

 

[KennethC]

Yeah the Pharisees are still at work in this world walking around saying:

"Thank God I am not like these other sinners."

That is a statement of pride, which is sin ful behavior !!!

 

[blue_ladybug]

I actually do,know how to read, otherwise I wouldn't be able to function in society..I'll copy and paste what you said, perhaps you didn't accurately type out your thoughts? I know that happens to me more often than not..
Sex offenders ARE a liability, because they rarely stop re-offending. Pedophiles and rapists can't change their behaviors.

What I said is true. Sex offenders ARE a liability, whether it's to church, school, etc. Some rarely stop offending, that is FACT. Some can, some can't, some don't want to. For the ones who don't want to or can't, THOSE are the ones who will not change their behaviors. IMO, pedophiles and rapists need Ole Sparky. :/

 

[jsr1221]

What I said is true. Sex offenders ARE a liability, whether it's to church, school, etc. Some rarely stop offending, that is FACT. Some can, some can't, some don't want to. For the ones who don't want to or can't, THOSE are the ones who will not change their behaviors. IMO, pedophiles and rapists need Ole Sparky. :/

It doesn't change the fact Christ died for them, though. Jesus would welcome the ones that wanted change. The difference between Him and us, is He immediately knows a person's heart. We don't. Since we don't, we can't ban all sex offenders from the church. That's equivalent to Donald Trump saying ban all Muslims from the US. That's a different discussion.

 

[Magenta]

It doesn't change the fact Christ died for them, though. Jesus would welcome the ones that wanted change. The difference between Him and us, is He immediately knows a person's heart. We don't. Since we don't, we can't ban all sex offenders from the church. That's equivalent to Donald Trump saying ban all Muslims from the US. That's a different discussion.

I do not see it as being equivalent at all. Sex offenders do not have a book they consider sacred telling them to slay any who disagree with them (reject their religion, refuse to submit) or offend them in any number of ways such as telling the truth about the founder of their religion... the obvious comparison being, Muslims do.

 

[blue_ladybug]

It doesn't change the fact Christ died for them, though. Jesus would welcome the ones that wanted change. The difference between Him and us, is He immediately knows a person's heart. We don't. Since we don't, we can't ban all sex offenders from the church. That's equivalent to Donald Trump saying ban all Muslims from the US. That's a different discussion.

Not in a single one of my posts, have I said to ban them from church. I said they should be chastised by the church. A good stern chastisement is vastly different from banning them from church.

 

[jsr1221]

Not in a single one of my posts, have I said to ban them from church. I said they should be chastised by the church. A good stern chastisement is vastly different from banning them from church.

You actually said they should basically be shot and killed, in your opinion. So if we do that... You're killing the ones that want change, and killing the ones that are offenders all because they had too much to drink and needed a place to release it.

 

[jsr1221]

I do not see it as being equivalent at all. Sex offenders do not have a book they consider sacred telling them to slay any who disagree with them (reject their religion, refuse to submit) or offend them in any number of ways such as telling the truth about the founder of their religion... the obvious comparison being, Muslims do.

You're kinda missing the point in what I was saying.

 

[LesserThanAll]

Lesser, sorry have now read through your comments.

I note in your orignal introduction thread you said ask me anything you like.

May I therefore ask who your offences were against. One of the reasons
for asking this is I think for some time at least, that you should avoid
accepting friendship requests from this category of people.

I honestly think that you need to consider putting a comment on your
profile to explain you are an ex sex offender and are therefore not accepting
friendship requests from that category of people. Also include a brief
testimony to explain how you became a Christian.

This is not to cause you to feel bad or put more shame onto you.
I just feel that you need to be fully accountable on CC if you are
going to involve yourself in this on line community. Also with the
passage of time this thread will quickly run off the screen so not everyone
will see this thread and be aware of your comments.

I think it would also be good for you to introduce yourself to the moderators
and also Robocop who runs this site.

Again, not because you are not forgiven, but for accountability, I hope you
will understand.


God bless.

Work called so it has taken some time to get back to this post.
In response to your questions, I don't have any "known" victims. I can't say ages or gender. I assume since it was about 2:00am on a college campus, everyone should have been of adult age. I was at a college campus back in the state that I lived in and I was drunk graduation night and went streaking the campus. Myself and 4 other men were convicted.

 

[LesserThanAll]

Sex offenders ARE a liability, because they rarely stop re-offending. Pedophiles and rapists can't change their behaviors. That's why their required to register as sex offenders in the town they live in, and that's also why WE get to publicly know their name and where they live. Pedophiles and rapists are a danger to women and children. They should NOT be trusted around the general public and they SHOULD be monitored wherever they go. I don't give a crap if that violates their rights or not. You wanna be free? Quit raping women and playing with kids then. :/ Personally, I think this country needs to reinstate the firing squad and fire up Ole Sparky more often.

It is your belief that God can not change ANYONE, but only some people? Sex offender recidivism (going back to prison for a the same crime) rate is lower than any other crime besides murder. Where do you get your information that they rarely stop re-offending?

 

[Magenta]

You're kinda missing the point in what I was saying.

Sorry ...